Why do people hate "kids" playing WoW?Follow

First off I am going to say that I am indeed new to this site. Secondly, I have read this whole thread thoroughly. Some of it I agree with and other aspects of it I do not.

I am a 19-year-old female who loves to play video games as well as reads a lot so you could say I have fairly better than average knowledge of grammar and spelling. Yes there are people who use the abbreviations for a lot of words or some other form of text and it is VERY annoying. I on the other hand try my best not to use it so much because I know it's hard to read but I will shorten a sentence with reasonable abbreviations such as: b/c (because), w/e (whatever), lol (laugh out loud), etc. I use mainly those and a few others especially when in a group and we're in the middle of fighting something.

Also, most of the time I act mature. I do admit I have a few immature moments, however, those are mostly when the situation is appropriate for such when the group/guild is joking around or something. Other than that, I'd say about 98% of the time while playing WoW I am mature.

The people I consider "kids" are those who constantly act like jerks, idiots, immature retards, etc no matter what age they are. If someone is 34 and they're acting like they're the best and being a jerk about it, then that "someone" is a "kid" to me. Also, no one is a "kid" if they were complimented on something from another group player.

Here is such a recent experience over this past weekend:

-SATURDAY NIGHT-
Auberdine in Darkshore was getting hit by about 3 to 5 horde players on the Bladefist server. I contacted my GL (Guild Leader) and he came to help. There were several other high lvl'd Alliance avatars there as well, including some 70s. The small Alliance group ended up in Astranaar and eventually ported out via a mage's portal. The small group of Alliance there was invited to a raid group and for the next 1.5 to 2.5 hrs that group raided different Horde territories since we got up to about 35 people in the group. I used my VC to talk with the leader of the raid group as well as others and I gave several suggestions. All was done and over with a little after 10 PM server time and the raid leader went offline. No one ever asked me what my age was either.

-SUNDAY AFTERNOON-
Said raid leader from night before wisps me and we talk for a bit. He compliments me on my fighting ability and how well I helped with the raid as well as coming up with some suggestions that no one else had come up with (and I'm being truthful about this). He asks me to join his guild and asks me to ask my GL to see if he wants to join as well. I told him I'd think about it.

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So in the end I was mature, thoughtful of all the other raiders, contributed what I could and it got me a very good rep with a very well experienced player. Especially considering I've only been playing for about 5 months now and my only avatar at the moment is my main, being a Lvl 63 Night Elf Hunter.

I feel that kids do have a tarnished reputation. I am young, play a hunter and do fine. Players hate kids for qualities certain, but not all kids who play have, namely bad typing, rudeness, immaturity, etc.
I don't use 1337speak, except for a few “r”'s, “u”'s and “thanx”'s.

Well, I don't see anything wrong with it. I'm 18, but I actually started college and the game at 17. I've never gotten the "Are you over 18?" thing, but I definately feel that being in college would well qualify me to be in a group/guild.

Also, my 10 year old brother plays, and he knows much more about the game than I do. I don't get to play as much as I would like because of class and work, but he has nothing to do besides school, so he plays constantly. I'll admit, he can be a little annoying to people he knows on the game because he won't ever shut up, but he definately knows what he's doing and can contribute alot to any group or guild. Personally, he make things alot easier on me because I have my own personal information bank sitting right beside me on the couch whenever I play. By the way, I still live at home instead of living in a dormroom, just to clarify. Anyway, I hope I was able to support my case well. Happy playing everyone!

Most of the people I meet that are under 15 aren't that bad. It seems to be that fact that they don't know what "noob" means as opposed to "newbie" that you find insulting. Most of the rude jackass types I meet are actually around College age, not in the way of immature l33t but in the way of being totally jerks to me in BGs because they are lvl 70 and have epic gear.

my kids and i both play the game...ages range from 8-15 yrs ... with the younger ones i sit with them and play, if someone does pst them i simply reply for them and let them know that this is a young player.... it seems only fair. i personaly like to know the age of whom i playing with so i can watch my mouth....as for the older kids..i agree i have one who plays really badly hes the type you can tell his age off the bat...hes agreat kid.... and ppl in the game seem to be rude to him... hes a noob and hes learnin to be a tank....he just wants to do good for others and loves the game....i feel bad for other ppl that play with him..because he is not a great player yet....but i try to help him. the other teen yes his talk is bad...i get on him about it all the time regarding proper talk in the game. So as far as the kids go in the game,
be kind to them...its your choice to hang with them or not. My kids enjoy the game and the younger ones do feel sad when ppl are mean to them. so please be kind!

We don't let kids in our guild and if found out they are released into the dark portal.

DOB, first name, city and state of residence and agreement to use voice chat for all instances and guild meetings help prevent most kids from getting into our adult casual guild.

To be honest? It's like what Hetah said. This is a game where you can easily get missions that require you to steal, commit murder, commit political assassinations, go to the middle of a battlefield, torture a sentient being, help research a new plague, and even help make alcohol. And that's just the stuff I can think of in a single minute.

This is a game where some of the worst actions in human history or human conception are being played out for personal entertainment and for the express purpose of telling a story. This is not a game for children. Hell, this is a game where I doubt half of the adults who play it are mature enough to deal with the subject matter appropriately.

In this game, the average character will likely end up doing things that could get them convicted of war crimes in real life. And yet, we're letting children play it.

Woah, woah, woah, this game does NOT take place in current times. It takes place in the Dark Ages. Back then, there were no such things as war crimes, because the whole world was a war-torn society between religious affairs. This game merely captures that in a fantasy sence, it even has a few religious overtones, like the Alliance with their Holy Light and Druidism, and the Horde with their Shamanism and Warriors.

There is a reason this game is rate T for Teen. Its about going to war and fighting with other enemy forces. Of course it is not something appropriate to do in real life, especially by today's standard. The reason its rated T for teen is because the people who play this should be old enough to tell the difference between it and real life.

You probably think Bugs Bunny was an awful thing for kids to watch, too. don't you.

Sure! True there's no killing people for money, just a lot of trying to kill people often for no good reason. And yes, no mutations, sorry you're right.

Cannibalism - Bugs would imagine Daffy Duck as... a cooked duck. Sylvester and Tweety is essentially PvP And don't forget the, and I understand how this would be too subtle for you, Bugs in the cannibal's cookpot.


Drugs - You mean in addition to the fact that the carrot is essentially a cigar? Actually I thought there was some Jazz musician thing with bugs and marijuana, part of the whole racist steroetype thing all over the Bugs Bunny cartoons. Course, Popeye was a total addict.

Blatant jokes referring to breasts and sex? You never saw the ones with the scantily clad bunny women or the bunny robot and all the jokes involved? Yeesh, pretty racy. Not to mention the innuendo and leering. Pretty blatant. Even the cross dressing scenes where Bugs IS the woman are pretty risque.

Oooh what about gambling? Bugs wins the clothes of a hunter chasing him via a dice game leaving the hunter naked with leaves covering his groin.

Hmmm, not really so much of a strawman after all. There's violence, sexual innuendo, drugs, cannibalism, racism. And I tried to limit myself to Bugs. The whole Merry Melodies series had quite a lot of what you're talking about.

Daffy duck swallowing radioactive material and gunpowder for a big stage finish (which kills him)

Then you get into things like Rocky and Bullwinkle, which is a totally different show when you're an adult than it was when you were a kid.

So actually, can you come up with a Bugs Bunny cartoon that *doesn't* involve the characters trying to hunt each other down and kill each other, that doesn't involve at least one scene with a girl bunny with the eggagerated hip sway (or Bugs cross-dressing), one that doesn't have some sort of racial sterotype, etc?

I showed my hand, lets see if you can follow suit since you were so sure that, what was it you said? Ah yes "it follows the pattern and goes up in flame. "

Ready, set, go.

Cel 1. Kel 0.

Heheh. Cel vs. Kel.

But really. WoW is so ridiculously cartoonish that it's actually sometimes hard for it to be mature about something. It has scary parts, like the upside-down sinners in the Karazhan basement, but it's honestly about as emotionally scarring as your average Batman comic. And no, not the one written by Frank Miller. He's insane.

I’m sorry but I can’t resist a comment here. I think it is great that parents want to do things with their kids. If you want your young developing child to learn about life’s simple lessons like teamwork and interacting with people then get them involved with softball or basketball and play catch with them. I’m sorry but we’re not a play thing or a baby sitter for your kid and we’re not a subject for social experiments on your child in a virtual world.