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#102 Dec 30 2007 at 9:30 AM Rating: Excellent
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Andykiller wrote:
I favor the players that I play with to act in a mature manor.


Andy doesn't truck with people in new houses, they have to live in older, mature dwellings.
#103 Dec 30 2007 at 1:44 PM Rating: Decent
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I think I'm with the majority here.

I don't care if you're two or 102, as long as you don't go around getting the group killed or spamming in all-caps with numbers for letters, you're fine.

And stop yelling "hlp plz". Learn to spell. I don't care that you're getting kicked around by such and such mob. Spell it right.

Not that I'll save you anyway. I only rescue random people if they *don't* ask.
#104 Dec 30 2007 at 6:34 PM Rating: Good
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To the tell the truth, when I first started playing I knew nothing about MMO's i was only like... I think 12, oh yea 12, I was the kid everyone use to make fun of because of being well, the "Whiny, Ignorant, Selfish, Cursing words because my parents are not supervising me of what I do" kid. In the 3 years World of Warcraft came out i have grown more mature.

I've had the same experience Heynick had, I was on my main character(level 70 Troll Hunter, yea a hunter) and well i was in a group for Tempest Keep - The Botanica, and well the leader asked for all our ages i did NOT stop to think why he would ask but, well this is what happened.

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Leader: Ok what is everyones ages?
Guy 2: 24.
Guy 3: 18. why do you want to know?
Leader: Just cause
Guy 4: 31 if thats ok.
Me: 15 why is our age so important?
Leader: .....
(My Mains Name) was removed from the group
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I was so offended by this *******(excuse me) i just reported him, never heard from him since. I do not know why adults 10 years older than me think I'm gonna mess up the whole instance by being a "Huntard," which i am not, or just plain not listening to the leader by not reading his strategy that is more than 6 words, from what i have seen happen in an Molten Core run before Burning Crusade came out, i admit the kids i see at my school who play are not as mature as me because most of them just like to kill lower level plays that are 40 levels under them. I am glad i have a guild that does not care if I'm 15, it is cause they know i am mature enough to listen to directions in 25-man raids.

Thats all i have to say for this post, thank you for taking time out of your hands by reading this! :D

P.S. Two days ago the same guy found me and apologized for what he did to me, i gladly accepted his apology and were in the same guild and good buds, even though i don't know him really. =]
#105 Dec 30 2007 at 11:06 PM Rating: Good
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I'm 17. That makes me a young adult.


It makes you a teenager...
#106 Jan 01 2008 at 1:41 PM Rating: Good
I've been playing SWG (Star Wars Galaxies) in the past year. Most of you are wondering WTF does this have to do with WoW? Well when I started playing it I was very rude. Very immature if you will. Well over the past year it made me into a hated character in my server (Chilastra)this added hatred caused many people to not trust me,to deny me from guilds,and to deny me into their groups for instances and such. Now most of you who are reading this are likely to tag me as a kid.....in which I am. I am 15 years old. Now I've personally seen the hate amongst "kids" because I like a spoiled ******. Now I am returning to WoW because I grew tired of SWG but in change. I will no longer act like an imbecile. But the only thing I will do is speak (not much) in AIM/MSN/Yahoo talk. But heynick is right many "adults" brand "young" people as immature/spamming morons who's sole purpose is to annoy the "adults" into submission. It is how much the person actually cares about the game really. Those who want to get a level 70 character will most likely have to act polite. And those who want to be an idiot will still be a level 10 and dance and take off their clothes and be an idiot.
#107 Jan 03 2008 at 4:13 AM Rating: Decent
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I don't think age is such a big issue but, I think most people associate age with lack of knowledge. Just because a player is 15 doesn't mean to say they don't have 3-4yrs of experience in the WoW.

I myself am 21yrs old but only have small amount of knowledge about the game itself and therefore if it came between me and someone who was 15 to be in a group the group leader should pick him! (based on what he needs obviously and what gear).

The game and world are all very complicated and I think each "kid" needs to show what they can do and prove that they are willing and able to be in groups/guilds, we all do! and with time and trust I'm sure people will be able to find the good players!

#108 Jan 03 2008 at 9:44 AM Rating: Excellent
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MightyMarc wrote:
I don't think age is such a big issue but, I think most people associate age with lack of knowledge. Just because a player is 15 doesn't mean to say they don't have 3-4yrs of experience in the WoW.

I myself am 21yrs old but only have small amount of knowledge about the game itself and therefore if it came between me and someone who was 15 to be in a group the group leader should pick him! (based on what he needs obviously and what gear).


No, not really, I associate age with how irritating you're going to be in party/guild chat.

I'd pick the person that was going to play like a mature human, not some garbage-spewing moron. Yep age doesn't necessarily mean they'll be mature, but it's only partly skill and knowledge of the game - but you can teach someone how to play and if they're mature they'll likely learn quickly. It's also about (and possibly more about) someone who isn't going to crap up my gaming experience by being an annoying prat.
#109 Jan 04 2008 at 11:37 AM Rating: Decent
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No, not really, I associate age with how irritating you're going to be in party/guild chat.



Fair reason, I didn't think about spamming... Well hopefully people of all ages will respect each other and have a little bit of consideration in guild chat, world or group chats.
#110 Jan 07 2008 at 2:27 AM Rating: Decent
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MightyMarc wrote:
I don't think age is such a big issue but, I think most people associate age with lack of knowledge. Just because a player is 15 doesn't mean to say they don't have 3-4yrs of experience in the WoW.


Knowing how to play some game has nothing to do with having manners and respect for other players.
You can be ultimate player and still annoying brat when it comes to social behavior.

#111 Jan 07 2008 at 1:08 PM Rating: Decent
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You can be ultimate player and still annoying brat when it comes to social behavior.


Also fair I guess I focused more on the players ability rather than their 'mouth' lol
#112 Jan 07 2008 at 3:43 PM Rating: Excellent
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You know, I never really had a problem with kids playing before. Most i didn't group with much as they (and good for them) knew they couldn't spend the time in instances when I was on. I think they grouped with others at different playtimes, but couldn't devote the time when I was grouping.

Until this weekend...

I've had to, for the first time, put a guildie on ignore. Partly due to the inane chatter (the joke wasn't funny the first time you made it, it's not going to be funny the 25th) and partly due to the fact that I'll never group with them again. Ever. Why?

HBotanica on Saturday. What should have been a quick run through with guildies that I've burned through there before with turned into a 3.5 hour run. Some of that was due to wipes because he couldn't manage his aggro, wanting to take mobs on himself (I stopped wasting the taunt because it was usually on cooldown then when he went down and the damn healer died). Or he'd randonly pull stuff and then say "OMG I thought we'd pulled!". That was bad enough.

Lord knows the chat and the constant /fart emote were annoying enough. Add in the ZOMG I forgot to loot my badge!!!!!!eleven Oops just kidding lol.

But on top of all that was the 40-50 minutes we spent spread over several times waiting around on his *** while he'd say "brb" and then go do something like talk his parents out of grounding him or go have dinner with the family.

Skip to Sunday when I was helping several guildmates with the Ogri'la pre-reqs. he joined and I whispered the guildie who got the group together that if he afk'd once I was gone and I'd help later without him.

So, another 2 hours of "OMG I forgot to loot the banner/chest/whatever" and /fart emotes and other juvenile jokes. Oh yeah, and he only had 25 arrows. Realized that when we got way out to the last boss.

So, yeah, not really interested in wasting my gametime listening to some repetitive, decidedly unfunny jackass. And certainly not interested in sitting around WAITING on said jackass while he goes off and does whatever. At least tell us what you're doing. I guess the reason why he didn't is he knew we'd boot his *** and get someone else rather than wait for 20 minutes while he ate dinner with the family.

I mean, why even get in a group when you know that ****'s going to happen?

Sorry I guess this turned into more of a rant than anything useful. But I feel better now.
#113 Jan 07 2008 at 5:46 PM Rating: Default
I reather like all the emotes. Seriously, why did Blizzard make them there if they honestly thought people wouldn't use them.

The kid didn't even seem like a bad person. He just needed to be taught how to go through group dynamics and learn when it was okay to make jokes and not.
#114 Jan 08 2008 at 2:05 AM Rating: Decent
Just to hop in here with a quick word...

My younger brother started playing WoW when he was 9 (he played EverQuest before that). He may have had an obnoxious leet/quick speak streak a mile wide, but damn... that kid could lead a raid of idiots. He could get a pick-up raid together, lead it, tank it, and handle all that loot junk without anyone whining about him.

I had a friend that played on EQ with me that started saying he was 21 at the age of 13 just so he could play the game in peace. He was still immature, annoying, and rude - but it was okay, because he was an adult!
#115 Jan 08 2008 at 3:34 AM Rating: Default
This is the internet, lie out of your ***. It won't matter, they probably won't find out.

Plus for me, I'm 15 but have the voice of a 25 year old.
#116 Jan 08 2008 at 4:16 AM Rating: Decent
The problem isn't "kids" so much as it is the maturity level of the players,be they adult or "kid" .I know many adults who are very childish and many "kids" who are very mature,And the other way around.What irritates is new players who beg for gold and runs in trade chat...Perhaps it is an assumption that young players are bad players.Take it with a grain of salt.
#118 Jan 08 2008 at 8:04 PM Rating: Decent
they hate it because they dont want the kids to know THEY HAVE NO LIFE
#119 Jan 10 2008 at 10:33 AM Rating: Decent
I guess it can get annyoing when you're in a group and the kid says it's time for dinner. It happens to me all the time. I'm a kid as well, and I have to leave the group for dinner, much as I dont like it.

But is it any worse than grouping with adults who say, "brb...smoke break" right before a boss fight?

Edited, Jan 10th 2008 10:34am by Erotan
#120 Jan 10 2008 at 2:41 PM Rating: Decent
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Erotan wrote:
I guess it can get annyoing when you're in a group and the kid says it's time for dinner. It happens to me all the time. I'm a kid as well, and I have to leave the group for dinner, much as I dont like it.

But is it any worse than grouping with adults who say, "brb...smoke break" right before a boss fight?

Edited, Jan 10th 2008 10:34am by Erotan


That's precisely the reason I'm hesitant to run 2 hour instances with kids. It's not their fault, but I don't feel like having two hours of my life be a waste because mom says to get off the computer. **Don't join into an instance group if you know you have to go soon!!!**


Now, there have been times when running with my guild leader and her husband, and one of them has to stop for "baby aggro" (baby needs diaper changing, or something like that). It's usually only for a few minutes, we like the couple, and it gives the rest of us a chance for a short break as well.

What's REALLY bad have been the couple instances I've run where one of the party members say "brb" in the middle of a big pull. I once did a Wailing Caverns run where one of the locks did it about 3 times (pretty sure it was a kid being called from the computer by his parents). I'm still not sure how we survived those pulls.

Another time, I'm in a SFK run as the highest guy in the group (30 warlock, IIRC), so I was doing most of the DPS. One of the party members blurts out, "I have to leave with my parents in a half hour, so we need to go fast. Everytime I tried to stop because I was /oom and life-tapped way too far down, he would keep pushing forward and pull the next group. Couple times I just sat there drinking as they fought, then would go help after my mana was full. Eventually I said, "if you have to leave soon, then you shouldn't have joined a long instance run!"

Edited, Jan 10th 2008 5:44pm by hcddog
#121 Jan 11 2008 at 8:41 AM Rating: Excellent
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Erotan wrote:
I guess it can get annyoing when you're in a group and the kid says it's time for dinner. It happens to me all the time. I'm a kid as well, and I have to leave the group for dinner, much as I dont like it.

But is it any worse than grouping with adults who say, "brb...smoke break" right before a boss fight?

Edited, Jan 10th 2008 10:34am by Erotan


Smoke Break = 5 minutes tops, the equivalent of a bio break.
Kid called to dinner = 20 minutes minimum

Yeah, it is worse.
#122 Jan 11 2008 at 11:31 AM Rating: Good
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OP: I feel for the younger players who face this issue.

I don't want to repeat the same thing as everyone else (although I agree with most of what has been said and will probably repeat it).

Being in the "adult" age bracket (chronologically anyway), I am guilty of similar a prejudice to the younger crowd.

I have only run into a few tweens/teens who really helped to foster the stereotype of the immature, unfocused, and ADD stricken youth of today. However, it only takes a few rotten apples ...

After having Instance runs, quest chains etc... ruined by: "Gotta go. Mom says dinner is ready/ It's my bed time/ Dad needs the comp" I am very wary of PuGs. Especially ones that "sound" young.

I will still gladly run with youg'uns I know (and there are a lot in my guild) but people need to be aware that a lot of the ill will towards the young stem from negative experiences that have reinforced a stereotype. The difference is none of our young guildies would even consider walking into a dungeon/raid without making sure they could commit the time. Or they give the time at which they will have to bail (ie. "I have until 8pm server time")and let the group decide if they want to work under that time constraint.

All things being equal, if given a choice to duo with a 14yr old or a 22yr old I would chose the 22 year old. Chances are good the 22year old will get the joke about Knight Rider or the A-Team. Of course, it's worth noting, I have never been given or asked the age of potential teammates.

And as always: "It's my $14.99 a month and I will not group with kids" is as valid of a reason as ever.

Remember:

Age has very little to do with maturity. If you are considerate and polite age will never come up.

#123 Jan 11 2008 at 4:02 PM Rating: Default
I've just turned 13,
But I dont do all that l33t/'gansta' talk stuff, I just think its stupid,
I just treat other people how I'd like to be treated! (Not immature)
I also dont get into many Guilds since their 18+ because they think we youngsters will get in the way and mess things up, so most of the time, I get into Guilds where people spam the whole chatbox or are idiots..
#124 Jan 12 2008 at 10:32 AM Rating: Default
RaideroftheBlade wrote:

OP: I feel for the younger players who face this issue.


I have only run into a few tweens/teens who really helped to foster the stereotype of the immature, unfocused, and ADD stricken youth of today. However, it only takes a few rotten apples ...



I have ADD, and I'm a teen as well. You don't see me using gangsta talk.

And anyways, I hate that sterotype. It was created mostly by adults with no memories of their own tween/teenhood who had a few bad encounters with jerky 11-17 year olds, and automatically start bemoaning about it. And in WoW, the only time I've seen gangsta talk is in the trade channels and city places like Crossroads or Goldshire (depending on which side you play on) from people who were way to bored with their lives.
#125 Jan 12 2008 at 8:25 PM Rating: Decent
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Its understandable why they play it is rated T for teenagers._.!!!!
How ever if i see a "kid" on a game like D2 it would bother me a little.
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#126 Jan 12 2008 at 10:05 PM Rating: Decent
It depends on who you met. Because some kids might bug you and some might not. From my time on World of Warft I have learned that some times you cant even tell.
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