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#52 Nov 13 2007 at 1:57 PM Rating: Good
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We don't hate kids playing WoW. What we hate is the attitude most of those kids have.

If i can tell how old you are within 10 seconds of you joining the group without making any mention of your age then you are obviously not mature enough.

If you can hide the fact that you're 14 years old by acting like a mature person,
I have no problem with that and won't kick you out cause i learn after 3 hours of instancing that you are a kid.

It is not about age, it's about attitude and most younger player have a bad attitude. If you are smart, mature and respectful, you'll always have a place in a group no matter how old you are.


#53 Nov 14 2007 at 7:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Had a moron in my guild, 15 year old warrior and claims hes so leetsauce and refuses to help anyone. One afternoon, he was spamming our guildchat and trying to get people to help him with heroic ramps. At the same time I was trying to get a run in SL (server lack tanks). Finally the guy gets out and when I asked if he could spare a minute he said "No I will not tank SL for you now stfu"

He also got flamed by the guild when he needed a tier 4 glove token upon recieving an epic tanking glove from kara like the previous day. Get this, he was pissed the day after that someone else in the guild got S2 arena gloves.

As for kids in general, if you dont act like a spoiled brat I wouldnt care. I started MMO when i was 11 and no one discovered the truth (still not adult yet). Once I was in a game store reading one of those WoW magazine/guide thingies and some random kid (looks 13-14)approached me and asked if i play, he then proceeded to acting all cool cuz hes lvl 52.
#54 Nov 14 2007 at 9:09 PM Rating: Decent
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[quoteShinnAsuka]Had a moron in my guild, 15 year old warrior and claims hes so leetsauce and refuses to help anyone. One afternoon, he was spamming our guildchat and trying to get people to help him with heroic ramps. At the same time I was trying to get a run in SL (server lack tanks). Finally the guy gets out and when I asked if he could spare a minute he said "No I will not tank SL for you now stfu"

He also got flamed by the guild when he needed a tier 4 glove token upon recieving an epic tanking glove from kara like the previous day. Get this, he was pissed the day after that someone else in the guild got S2 arena gloves.

As for kids in general, if you dont act like a spoiled brat I wouldnt care. I started MMO when i was 11 and no one discovered the truth (still not adult yet). Once I was in a game store reading one of those WoW magazine/guide thingies and some random kid (looks 13-14)approached me and asked if i play, he then proceeded to acting all cool cuz hes lvl 52.[/quote]

Why didn't your guild just kick him?
#55 Nov 15 2007 at 3:06 AM Rating: Decent
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Why didn't your guild just kick him?


indeed.

Anyway i dont hate kids playing wow i just try to avoid them.
In an instance you can always tell when you are dealing with kids: No good conversations and a different mindset. I know i generalize it but its just the way i think about it though i know a few exceptions
#56 Nov 15 2007 at 12:50 PM Rating: Decent
In my opinion, it doesn't matter what age you are, so long as you enjoy playing the game, don't insult me personally often (some jokes are funny and are alright), and don't act like a complete fool (completely ignoring all advice at all times), then I have no problem with you. If you are an idiot, running around town naked screaming, "I AM (insert name) AND I HAVE COME TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD!!! NOW GIVE ME ALL YOUR GOLD OR I WILL SPAM YOU TO DEATH!!!" *proceeds to spam*, then you will be reported, banned from the game for a while, and then if it continues banned permanently from the game.

To the older players who dislike people under/at the age of 18 (my age so i thought i'd start with it), not everyone is bad. We all like to play the game, yet just like those of you with jobs and children, we can have an off day or just be in a bad mood. If nothing else allow one small mistake and let them know what's going to happen before you kick them or ignore them. Also, when "giving advice" be careful of how you word it. WoW had only, until voice chat was added, a text based communication system, and just like this forum if you type something that says, in general, "Hey you're doing this wrong and this is the way it is done by everyone else, so do it the generic way." what will happen, as I have seen, will be this:

player: takes advice as insult and gets upset.
advice giver: quickly takes offense because player did not conform.
player: becomes more upset, and follows up with insults or stops helping team.
advice giver: kicks player/ignores player instead or trying to work it out.
player: goes into a rage and takes it out on the rest of us because he was kicked out or ignored.

Generally, in my opinion, it is this missinterpreted text that leads to anyone becoming one of those players that receives a mass ignore from everyone or something similar.

Last bit of advice, just play the damn game instead of reading these things and developing a chip on your shoulder (adults too). People don't want to let you in to one guild? fine go find a new one, it's not like there's a shortage of guilds. I personally would be more than happy to take anyone that's willing to stay. If you want a guild then just send me a private message and let me know, i've got several on multiple realms so let me know where you are and i'll try to add you.

Also, I have a quick question for the OP. Did any of these replies answer your question? I mean did any one particular post answeer it or did any of them in general answer your question?
#57REDACTED, Posted: Nov 15 2007 at 1:18 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Well, I think ppl don't like "kids" playing WoW because of blood, killing stuff, and ppl saying cus words. I think it's dumb. I'm under 18 and there are like ppl that are 30 years old here! I think this game should be for kids 10-18 because the adults that play this game treat me like I'm six! Also 'cause mostley "kids" play this game anyways.
#58 Nov 15 2007 at 1:25 PM Rating: Default
hey, it's not always bad attitudes, it's how ppl react to how ppl say things. i say something, a person says "lol" and basically says i'm a dumb person who knows nothing about WoW. i'm nice, mabe i sound mean they way i say things, but i'm a nice, smart person with alot of hummer. so, kids don't always have an attitude, it's justed the way they say words that mean something u think means something else.
#59 Nov 15 2007 at 2:27 PM Rating: Decent
What i have to say is. i have met people that are like 16 and way older who act like ******* ****** yes sometimes i miss spell but hey. im 14 every misspells unless your a freaking genious. im 14 and have a 70 hunter on Korgath named Icymist. (yes im a guy with a girl char. big deal) i have joined a couple guilds that im only let into because my uncle is in it. and i think its funny because after im in it for a mounth or 2 i usualy start in the mail raids because i play the game smart and just do what im told and dont whine like 90% of the people on WoW do. i have no problem with anyone as long as they arnt a **** to everyone that is older then them.
#60 Nov 16 2007 at 5:46 AM Rating: Decent
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Zeranzo wrote:

advice giver: kicks player/ignores player instead or trying to work it out.


Tbh if I was 18 I would probably have more patience and understanding.
But the quotted above is just what I do - I dont have nerves to work anything out with every jerk in this game, sorry.
I give fair warning twice at most, if its not taken please dont waste my game time /kick

#61 Nov 16 2007 at 8:59 AM Rating: Decent
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Like said before, I don't have anything against young people, but I do have something against immature 'tards, unfortunately that desicribes most of the young'uns on WoW.

To be honest, I didn't mind so much until I lost count of the number of instances we had to quit most of the way through becuase someone in the party goes "I have to go guys, my mom needs to use the computer" or "my parents are telling me to get off" or "I only have a half hour to do this instance because I have to go soon" (as said player starts rushing into mobs when the rest of us have no mana...).

If you're young, but have the presence of mind to at least learn how to play the game and not act like a ******, good for you. Unfortunately, it's "guilty by association" and getting burned by too many other young people who don't have that presence of mind. I guess it's just a youth thing.
#62 Nov 16 2007 at 10:04 AM Rating: Decent
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GreenDayRules wrote:
Well, I think ppl don't like "kids" playing WoW because of blood, killing stuff, and ppl saying cus words. I think it's dumb. I'm under 18 and there are like ppl that are 30 years old here! I think this game should be for kids 10-18 because the adults that play this game treat me like I'm six! Also 'cause mostley "kids" play this game anyways.


You don't say? I would never have guessed....ppl over 30? oh noes...shut it all down!

For me personally it comes down to I have very limited playing time. I'm not going to be in a guild/group or quest with someone that annoys me. I don't care what your age is, if you are an idiot you are getting kicked and/or an ignore.

As for the over 18 thing, it may be more of how the guild is. One guild i'm in is very talkative and to be honest I would not want any of my children exposed to some of their conversations. It may not be a knock on your age as opposed to its just not the appropriate type of a guild for a child. Respect that and move on and find one that is right for you.
#63 Nov 16 2007 at 12:25 PM Rating: Good
I have no problems with kids playing the game. I have grouped with some kids that really play well and are well behaved.
The unfortunate thing is that there are those who act very immature that get lumped in with the "kids".
As long as you treat someone the way that you want to be treated, I'm good with that. If you act like a jerk, even if it is in the trade channel, welcome to /ignore. This applies no matter how old you are.
So, to make a short story long, we don't hate "kids", we hate rude and immature behavior.
#64 Nov 16 2007 at 4:33 PM Rating: Decent
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I have done some thinking since my last post, and after having red many of your comments here I think I may have actually changed my mind on a few points. I must admit that the posts from many of the younger players have had a large influence on my new thoughts.

I also don’t like the idea of a ‘kids’ server, but I still like the idea a family friendly server. (There is a difference) I also would like to remind everyone that you can NEVER really tell who is on the other end of that toon. Many of the bad behavior attributed to kids, is in fact (and I have said this before) perpetrated by MUCH OLDER players. Just because someone tells you they are 14, doesn’t mean that they really are! Many of my best play experiences are when I was grouped with younger players, (assuming I am being told the truth about their age, lol) as I generally find that they are sometimes more forgiving and less uptight about the game in general, and just there to have fun.

Others should actually read the many previous posts, and those that do will find that maturity, and intelligence, don’t always go hand in hand with age. There are many of you who claim to be younger that have formulated very mature, and well thought out, arguments here. And many more who have just commented that they hate lewt-speek, that they hate the way kids beg, etc… None of those remarks are actually arguments, just complaints. Please keep in mind that begging, and other forms of bad game play are committed by players of all ages.

Don’t blame it all on the kids.
#65 Nov 17 2007 at 10:19 AM Rating: Good
I don't take much stock in what others think about me,
but you keep doing what you like doing no matter how old you are.
And everyone has sucked at the game at one time or another,
I'm not saying you do!
But what sucks most is people who think they are the greatest
and everyone else is below them.
If you want to be great you should group up with as many
different players as you can,
help people out,and be a good sport.
Players will respect you for it, and remember your name
when they see you down the road.
Stay cool and keep playing.

Edited, Nov 17th 2007 1:34pm by ozobee
#66 Nov 18 2007 at 3:10 PM Rating: Default
well im 14 and everyone that asks my age says ur 2 young to play this and omg wtf? there is a 7 yr old in our guild WITH A LVL 70!!! omg and they give me all this stuff
#67 Nov 19 2007 at 6:00 PM Rating: Good
DarkMager wrote:
well im 14 and everyone that asks my age says ur 2 young to play this and omg wtf? there is a 7 yr old in our guild WITH A LVL 70!!! omg and they give me all this stuff


I am also 14

no offence but your a little imature with the stupid OMG and WTF

A 7 yr old probably got the account from his Dad/Brother/Sister/Friend

and gave all the good stuff because he doesnt understand what its worth yet
#68 Nov 20 2007 at 5:52 PM Rating: Decent
Excluding people from a game like WoW is impossible and you should only concern yourself with limiting their damage to you. Thankfully, this is fairly simple. Kick them from your Guilds, use that Ignore feature and just leave groups if you're stuck with them. This applies to noobs, idiots and anyone intent on NPE or anyone else disruptive. You have yourself to blame if you let them consistently bother you. The reason why people of any age group are usually blamed is from experience.

Sometimes, you will run with several kids that act retardedly, refuse to listen or spell properly. Other times you will run with the iconic 40yo virgins so synonomous with our gaming lifestyle that have nothing better to do than gank SS/TM, ninja phat lewtz and go into BGs to yell abuse at other players on their own team rather than helping. Picking on kids is just as bad as complaining about older people not having lives when playing games. Like all forms of discrimination, it is based from bad experience and taken to extremes and ultimately foisted upon innocents who almost invariably act negatively and keep the doom cycle going. Isn't human nature great?

Honestly...I work, I drink, I have badarse mates and an awesome beautiful lover. WoW is a big scary hole in the ground that consumes my time, money and occasionally even the odd shred of sanity...and there is no way I'm going to let anyone interrupt that. If you talk about things that don't interest me, I won't listen...and I assume you don't want to hear about what I have to say. That's not just WoW manners, that's usual conversational sense.

Do teenagers usually want to hear about my Al Bundy type experiences? Hear me rant about exes that bled me dry? About how expensive weddings are? What working all day everyday just to pay bills feels like? God no...even I don't want to think about it and, really, I play WoW so I don't have to for a few precious demon-smacking hours. Do I, in turn, want to hear about younger people's grotesquely exaggerated sexual misadventures? Or the latest rumour around your schoolyard? Being called bad names at school is not the same as having to go to war and see your mates die. Thinking about getting into your teachers' knickers all day is different to spending a weekened alone with your wife.

Young people and old people have a hard time dealing with each other occasionally or appreciating the difference of their lifestyles...but not always. Both are capable of being good players and bad players and really...who the hell cares? If you're having fun and gaming then such things shouldn't even come up...and if they do, they should make no difference at all.
#69 Nov 21 2007 at 1:28 PM Rating: Decent
Everything I planned to say has already been said on here.

Nick, from your clear standard of English, your lack of abreviations, nUmB3rZ in words etc its a shame you are getting pigeon-holed with the rabble.

The fact is, as has been stated, its a matter of maturity, not age. Im in a guild thats over 18's, not because we hate younger players, but because we discuss real life things and our chat at times could offend a parent, which is fair enough I think.

Hope you find a good guild soon though chap.
#70 Nov 23 2007 at 3:45 AM Rating: Decent
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PaladinBash wrote:
Being called bad names at school is not the same as having to go to war and see your mates die.


Being called bad names at school at the age of 8 can leave some bad scars on ones soul, maybe even worse than going to war at 40 and see someone die.
And dont tell me I dont know what war is, been there saw everything.

#71 Nov 23 2007 at 11:11 AM Rating: Decent
Hmmmm, I've been looking at this thread, and what I've seen has been proof of what people should think: If people are immature idiots, it doesn't matter what age they are. Unfortunately, most people don't think that. And that kind of sucks.

I've seen a lot of stereotypes flung at me, some of which are because of my rather young age. I've been in several guilds, all of which have determined my age to be tens of years older than it actually is, due to my fast and literate typing. It seems that the stereotypical "kid" in World of Warcraft, (Improper spelling, slow typing, chatspeek, 1337 speak, not proper capitalization etc...) wreck the game for many, for the literate/smart of us get discriminated toward. In fact, there have been people in my guilds who are much older than I, yet they show total idiocy.

Heynick, you are most certainly NOT a ****** about this, this is a valid issue.

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If i can tell how old you are within 10 seconds of you joining the group without making any mention of your age then you are obviously not mature enough.

If you can hide the fact that you're 14 years old by acting like a mature person,
I have no problem with that and won't kick you out cause i learn after 3 hours of instancing that you are a kid.

It is not about age, it's about attitude and most younger player have a bad attitude. If you are smart, mature and respectful, you'll always have a place in a group no matter how old you are.


Feelz, I agree 100% about your post. It doesn't matter how old or young you are, if you act mature, then you would make a good person to instance with.

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For me personally it comes down to I have very limited playing time. I'm not going to be in a guild/group or quest with someone that annoys me. I don't care what your age is, if you are an idiot you are getting kicked and/or an ignore.

As for the over 18 thing, it may be more of how the guild is. One guild i'm in is very talkative and to be honest I would not want any of my children exposed to some of their conversations. It may not be a knock on your age as opposed to its just not the appropriate type of a guild for a child. Respect that and move on and find one that is right for you.


I also agree with this post by Deadd. If someone annoys you, it doesn't matter if they are 8, 12, 18, 30, or 60.
Also, I somewhat agree with the second paragraph, but I think that that's almost never the case that some guilds have "mature" content. I think most guilds just think automatically "If you're under 18/20/whatever, you're an idiot, who sucks at this game, and is going to wreck our play." they don't even bother to wonder if that person is good, nice, or more mature then you are (Which is frequently the case, that the discriminator is less mature than the discriminate).

That's my take on the discrimination/steriotypes in WoW.

Sorry for the rant,
-Cal

Edited, Nov 23rd 2007 2:11pm by Caliandor

Edited, Nov 23rd 2007 2:12pm by Caliandor
#72 Nov 25 2007 at 3:01 AM Rating: Good
my guess is im one of the youngest 70's around. and when i get tells asking for runs, with the typical "PLEAASE man just one run imm about to lvl dude please" i ask them how old they are. theyre not all under 15. theyre hardly even under 30(you could also assume 25% were lying about their age and really were kids if you feel the need). i will agree with the statement several people have made about kids tending to be immature more than adults. but adults certainly have a sickening case of immaturity sometimes. and those of you who think all kids are immature...
obviously you have no kids, no social relations, and bad childhood memories.

Tnnxr - sh*tty 70 gnome lock who silent afflictions your *** if you play the "/2 gnomes are so un1337 race shoot gnomes hahahahahahahaha" card when you're a 20 and cant "find" your imaginary 70 alt you were telling me about

and, for those messages i got saying im "[a] useless player go home to your mommy you immature ***"(i quote) because i dont use punctuation(even though i spell everything right which he/she seemed to have overlooked)...
Typing like this gets quite tedious, doesn't it, Rose?


Edited, Nov 25th 2007 6:12am by tnnxr
#73 Nov 25 2007 at 8:04 AM Rating: Good
Well i've had similar problems i am young but i consider myself more mature than many of my peers in real life, for example "gangsta" talk and living "ghetto" or those types of things, although i, like many people, have had issues people will point out my mistake and I try my best to follow that guideline and reply to him/her with something like a "thanks for the advice" or a "sorry I'll try to do that". people have rejected me for groups and guilds for the age reason and I maturely ask why and somehow through in there that I'm mature and i rarely get yelled at for doing so. the only advise i can offer is not to reply in a way that is bluntly insulting or insulting at all if you can avoid it.
#74 Nov 25 2007 at 11:15 AM Rating: Good
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Then there's the guilds that insist on using Teamspeak or Vent to communicate between their guilds, and all kinds of undocumented little conversations go on there that some might not want other exposed to. Its not always about text.

Tossing in a personal experince; Im 24 and female. I've been kicked and banned from three diffrent vent servers because I apparrently sound like a 14 year old boy (and one of them yelled at me first for 'impersonating a girl'). People who know me offline tease me about it pretty constantly. I get mistaken for a kid pretty often and tend to immediatly get treated like one until the point I have to pull out my state ID and prove Im as old as I say I am. Whenever I join a new guild or a party wants me to get on their server so we can more easily communciae the goals we're after that night, I wonder; "How do these guys respond to kids? Am I going to get banned again because I sound young?"

I think the Deutch 'kid' had an interesting point though. From a diffrent background and a diffrent country where the rules are diffrent, he IS mature by the rules of where he lives, so this "must be over 18" stuff can seem extra ludicrious sometimes. Telling him he shouldnt play without parental guidance when he can clearly make his own decisions about what he does and doesnt want to see, refusing to belive kids have minds of their own capible of deciding what is right and wrong seems to be the biggest mistake for anyone.

And now Im going to stop or ramble over into a post no one is going to read anyway :p
#75 Nov 27 2007 at 3:55 AM Rating: Excellent
I'm a 24 year old female whose played a few MMO's, coming across a similar issue with SOME (only some) younger players. I have had a few very much younger males become a bit too attached to me. I am the type of person who loves to give as much as I can if I have it to give to anyone in my guild. This can be things from game currency, gear, and time to help them level grind or do quests.

I have had a few younger players take this as "She must like me, since she helps me whenever I need it." They then get very, VERY upset and hurt when I must break it to them that not only are they way too young to be with someone over 18, (They then try and tell me that they have had girlfriends older), then I have to tell them I don't think that's a great idea. I had one young man break up an entire guild by going on a depressed fit when he, and I quote, "Loved me", and I turned him down. The youngest girls in our guild really seemed to sympathize with him, one who was 'dating' a 22 year old male she met on the game, her being ONLY 11, thinking that age was just a number. I'm not sure if her parents would agree. In the end many left the guild, which was disappointing since I really liked them all, and gave a lot of effort in their character success.

Now, this was just one issue that I have seen come up with a few select young people who didn't understand online friendships all the time, or the inappropriateness of some chat with those older than them, and took the game chat too seriously. Most don't, but a few do, and it's a problem with more immature players, (Some I've seen do the same thing with other girls I'm friends with and they were 19). I've also been the one adult to stand by a younger player in a guild, when most found him very annoying. I tried to explain his "Foot in Mouth Disease" and that if you get to know him his hyper activity calms down, but some aren't willing to give some of those players under 16 a chance. It takes a lot for me to say "GET OUT OF THE GUILD", since it's sad to see anyone you get to know feel like they're treated badly because of something they can't control.

All the younger players should realize is that they need to realize this is a game, take a deep breath and understand that you have different experiences at this point in your life than those who are adults, and if someone says to "calm down", maybe you're doing something you don't realize is annoying to that player. Be happy that someone is willing to work with you and not just say "You dumb 'NOOB'! This is why I hate stupid kids in WoW!"

Alexis
#76 Nov 27 2007 at 4:36 AM Rating: Excellent
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tnnxr wrote:

Tnnxr - sh*tty 70 gnome lock who silent afflictions your *** if you play the "/2 gnomes are so un1337 race shoot gnomes hahahahahahahaha" card when you're a 20 and cant "find" your imaginary 70 alt you were telling me about

and, for those messages i got saying im "[a] useless player go home to your mommy you immature ***"(i quote) because i dont use punctuation(even though i spell everything right which he/she seemed to have overlooked)...
Typing like this gets quite tedious, doesn't it, Rose?


Sorry I am not 12.... could you translate for me please?

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