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#27 Oct 08 2007 at 1:01 AM Rating: Default
well some kids are real annoying but to say that i hate them, hell no.

it is just because they are different and the "older" people think they are better.

so to keep it short there is no reason why people hate kids
#28 Oct 08 2007 at 4:02 PM Rating: Decent
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I find most kids have a lot more energy than I ever did growing up. Had some family tragedies early on in life that got me to quiet down and look out at my world around the age of 10. There are times when I'll try and get someone under 18 ogg my back and go do soemthing with the older players, but its not from disliking the age group, just not thinking I'd be interesting enough to hang around and... Really, the younger kids in my guild at the moment are mroe into ganking and I'm more into raiding. A lot of them dont seem to understand I'd rather farm up enough gold to pay for my repair bills than run off to the Crossroads to shoot people.

The only thing that really pisses me off that seems to show up a lot in kids 13-14 that I've been meeting lately is the total unwillingness to READ. I had one kid a few months off from his 15th birthday that refused to read any sentance with more than six words in it. Any time boss strat was explained to him, he'd just rush in before anyone was done assigning positions, get himself killed, and we'd usually end up wiping from trying to act like a normal, well played party. Him and maybe 20 other kids I've met over the past few months have been pulling this type of thing often enought that I tend to hang out with poeple my own age, and have considerably less interaction with 'kids'.

Maturity is one thing. Intentional ignorance just makes my blood boil.
#29 Oct 09 2007 at 7:50 AM Rating: Good
Im a generous guy,I will help anyone out at anytime I can BUT the problem is that when I do help out a young player I can get over the swearing and trifle talk but its the relentless "help me plz!" every 10 minutes even just after I ran them thru some dungeon or a quest,it does not compute to them that I have things to do as well.

I start to become their own personal lvl 70 slave, its ridiculous and totally self centered. I have given thousands of gold worth of chants and weapons away to them but still their never happy or satisfied and some wont even have the decency to say thanks.

I have turned bitter to them and my bitterness is well earned, with that being said I still do like to help out and will continue to do so,just alot more careful and cautious of who it is.

Im more about taking one under my wing and concentrate on getting them lvl'd up and make sure they are set gear and weapon wise. It has worked out well this way, I have a good dozen or so very loyal friends who Ive helped reach 70 and have reciprocated many times over.

Bottom line, be cool to a 70 that wants too help you,don't just be a taker.

Edited, Oct 9th 2007 11:51am by Hordezun
#30 Oct 09 2007 at 5:13 PM Rating: Good
I'm 12, and I've had people ask me my age. I'd say 12 and they'd go all, NO WAY!!! DUDE YOUR LIKE 17 OR SOMETHING!!! Also when I talk on vent people think I'm like 15. (Damn, this puberty lol.) Anywayz, it's not too bad for me. My guilds go all, young'un etc. It's kinda funny =P. I hate some people who spam trade tho like. "LOLERZ THESE STUPID 13 YEAROLDS ARE NOOBZ AND DUNNO HOW TO PLAY ROFLZZZ". "sigh". I guess I'll have to deal with it until I'm older. There's some other people tho, like 14 yearolds who roll need on boe blues and put em up on AH -_-. I really hate this sterotype.
#31 Oct 21 2007 at 9:55 AM Rating: Decent
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This story is actually relevant.
As I was playing my female night-elf druid, when I had a small, and relatively tame run in with another player. This player had just dueled my friend, and then decided to verbally abuse him afterwards. My friend had clearly won the dual, but this guy just kept saying that my friend sucked, and that he should quit the game, etc…
I told the guy to take a walk, he then used an emote. The emote want as follows. (I am using JerkPlayer and FemaleDruid in place of the real names.)
JerkPlayer RAPES FemaleDruid.

As for kids playing WoW, there is no way any child of mine under the age of 17 will go anywhere near this game! I understand that we live in a technological world where kids on-line get exposed to this kind of thing on a regular basis, but seriously… WHERE ARE YOUR PARENTS! JerkPlayer is probably only 14 years old himself/herself, and as for me, I just reported him and put him on ignore.

I was playing my female night-elf druid the other day when I was asked by another player to help them finish a quest. The player openly admitted to being 9 years old. I just couldn’t stop wondering if JerkPlayer’s character ever raped the nine-year-old’s character.

I have no problems with kids playing WoW. I do have problems with nine-year-olds chatting on-line with forty-year-olds. A big part of any MMO is that you CHAT with other players!!!

One final note, heynick wrote the following… I am 14 years old (stay away online predators). This just proves my point!

If kids want to play WoW, put them on their own server! I’ll lookout for the one’s I can, but for goodness sake, WHERE ARE THE PARENTS!
#32 Oct 21 2007 at 4:12 PM Rating: Decent
One thing I have to say is...you were all kids once. You should understand how innocent kids are and they don't understand life as much. For me I am 12 but I hate the prejudice some Adults show because they know I'm an immature 12 year old boy even though they don't even know me at all. They don't even think twice before giving me a chance to show how mature I am. I understand some kids do act immature but there's no reason to let the other kids down by rejecting them constantly without giving them a chance.
#33 Oct 22 2007 at 4:59 PM Rating: Default
ahhh this game never ceases to amaze me

21 years old, im man enough to acknowledge this game takes FAR too much of my time, which i should be spending working, studying, you know, ADULT kinda endeavours.......

the ONLY people who actually should have the spare time to play this game are either UNDER 15 or RETIRED. hence statements like "i wouldnt have my kids play this till 17" make me laugh quite hard...

"Once you're ready son, and you've proven yourself as a considerate, mature member of society, you can play a video game.." ???

I've been offended by all ages, maybe more often younger, male players, but the sweeping generalisations made by some on this post truly only expose their own lack of maturity.

BOTTOM LINE, HAVE FUN KIDS I WILL KILL PIXELS BY YOUR SIDE ANY DAY!!!
#34 Oct 24 2007 at 1:21 AM Rating: Decent
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Firstly, I'll say this. This is information anyone should have learned by fifth grade. Sentences start with a capital letter. Sentences end with a punctuation mark. Until WoW starts spitting everything in the chat lines through my speakers, then I have to read it. Make sentences. It's not that hard. Sentences, like turn signals on a car, are there for a reason. They are for the benefit of others. Really. You know what you want to say. Punctuation marks and capitalization make it so everyone else gets your point as well. They make what you say readable and understandable by others. I play WoW for fun, not to work on my translation skills. Secondly, I find that most people don't respond well to criticism. Maybe it's an age thing. I don't know. Let me give you a general sentence, and you'll possibly understand why people don't like children in WoW.

person a: You're not very good at pulling. Let someone else do it.
person b: STFU ******

And from there it spirals downward. Secondly, you generally get the beggar crowd out of children. I equate these people to bums on the street. These are the kind of people that constantly spam their want for something that is easily obtainable, IE money. Third, you have the ungrateful SOB. The person you decide to help and the instant you do something they are not fond of they spout ten thousand lines of curses and beligerent remarks. Realize this: there is a difference between argument and fight. An example of an argument would be a well reasoned discussion between two or more people as to which would win in a fight: Superman or Batman. Fighting equates to random slurs thrown back and forth with nothing being solved and no point really being made. Learn to argue, and not to fight. This doesn't get to all the generalized children stereotypes, but hey... it's best to identify the enemy if you want to solve the problem. Or kill the enemy. Either way.
#35 Oct 24 2007 at 9:33 AM Rating: Good
"can someone plz give me 1G...plllllllllllllllllllllllzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz"


That's why!!!
#36 Oct 25 2007 at 7:47 AM Rating: Good
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I have met asshats of all ages in WoW. The hate for "kids" is more of a pre-conceived expectation that youth equals immaturity.
#37 Oct 26 2007 at 9:29 AM Rating: Decent
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Generally speaking I don't judge by age. Generally. In my Guild - I'm the GM - my rules are really simple:

1) If we offend you, leave.
2) If you're an idiot, you're out.

That's basically it, to be honest. Unfortunately for the younger players that are not complete morons, the idiots who use 1337 5p34k and beg for gold and dance naked and crap are FAR 'louder' than those of you who aren't.

Its a matter of - we see these morons everywhere and some people lump all kids in the same group.

Is it fair? No. Is life fair? No.

If you're on Greymane look me up, we'll take ya in our Guild. :D
#38 Oct 26 2007 at 10:16 AM Rating: Decent
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Knifeinureye wrote:
So it gets better. Next day he signs on, asks me how to "CRE8 1 OF DOS MAKRO TINGS" (which took me a few seconds to translate). I told him, using /w as an example, how to make a text macro. He then proceeds to "test" out the macro technique by saying, in g-chat, "THIS GUILD HAS DRUGGIES" 15 times in succession. Everyone loved him after that.

Haha, - pay respect for the white ghetto kids. God, I can't believe how much that made me laugh. R@t3 upz!
#39 Oct 29 2007 at 7:52 AM Rating: Decent
I saw a 29 mage rollin round with a sword and meleeing in SFK well the question came up of how old he was, his answer was 8 i mean an instance that low has some leniancy (spelling) but outlands instances has no room for gear mistakes and a mage tryna melee somethig isnt gonna help out ur healer ne i know not all kids are/or will b like this but its very common from my xperiences
#40 Oct 29 2007 at 9:08 AM Rating: Decent
Hallo, i myself am 14 years old, (i am also horde, if that matters).
I know i am not the best in English(i am Dutch myself), but i try to write down readable English.
I myself, agree that many immature players are children. And i understand that people get the idea that all kids are immature.
I have been kicked from several guilds after responding to their question about how old i am. but i think that there are children who are acting mature. and that people must base there thoughts on the ability to have an reasonable conversation with people, and see if they are knowing what to do.
I understand people don't want to talk about certain things if there are young people around. but i think that that is the responsibility of the parents. I know about more things than most of the people around my age do. but it doesn't matters to me if people talk about "Adult" things because my parents always have been very open to us, and just told us what was going on. i also have a 19 year old brother who just moved out, so i know about the bees and the flowers. And if i am free to choose what i want to hear and what not, i don't have to follow the guild chat to see what you are discussing about. if i don't want to join the conversation i can change it to combat log.
I just think that people should take a look at people first before they really decide whether to /ignore them or to invite them.

A fourteen year old boy from Holland

Edited, Oct 29th 2007 1:58pm by greykin
#41 Oct 29 2007 at 10:29 AM Rating: Good
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My only other problem with child players is finding out they were born AFTER World of Warcraft came out. That's just f'in depressing :(
#42 Nov 01 2007 at 4:23 PM Rating: Good
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After reading some of the posts here, I felt the need to contribute and clarify my previous post. When I mentioned that I wouldn’t let anyone under 17 years old near WoW, I wasn’t saying little kids shouldn’t play games. I wasn’t even saying children shouldn’t play WoW! I like the fact that there are kids playing this game, and I think even children are allowed to just play something fun sometimes, and it doesn’t always have to be educational.

Here is my problem…

I don’t think 12 year-olds should be engaged in internet chat with 30 to 40 year-olds, and World of Warcraft is nothing more then one BIG chat-room with a neat D&D game attached to it.

There are too many parents that are clueless to what this game is all about to argue that it is the parent’s responsibility to police their kids on this issue. There are too many racist/sexist/homophobic nutcases playing this game. (And not all of them are kids! Some of the bad behavior attributed to younger players is, in fact, perpetrated by much older people!) Anyone want to guess at how many times I have heard people talking about their drug experiences? (I stepped in at one point when one person was telling another that drugs are fun! Would you tell this to an 8 year-old in real life? Would you let your children talk to the shady looking guy on the street corner as he instructs him on the proper method of lighting a joint?)

(sigh!)

I suppose I am just uptight, square, old, or whatever else you want to label a person who actually cares about the welfare of younger people. And as a direct comment to “greykin” who wrote … <And if i am free to choose what i want to hear and what not, i don't have to follow the guild chat to see what you are discussing about.> Sorry, lad, you shouldn’t be free to choose what you want to hear and see, not at the age of 14.

But I can’t tell parents not to let their kids play unsupervised, I can’t stop the 23 year-old druggie from spreading his stories about how fun magic-mushrooms are, and I can’t stop the neo-**** loser from buying an account. Blizzard really needs to police the servers more, but I can’t even force them to do that. (I have asked many times, however. And I’ll report anyone who I think gets out of line…But let’s be real about this last part, as I can’t report the whole server, and I wouldn’t want to anyway!)

I standby what I said before about younger people having their OWN server. Some servers should actually have an adult ID verification, that way Blizzard can concentrate on policing a select number of family-friendly servers, allowing the other servers a more free environment for adult players to speak.

But here is the thing that really bothers me. Everyone seems more concerned about not wanting to play with an annoying kid, or younger players just looking to be respected as equals, and NOBODY seems even a little concerned about 9 year-old Jenny grouped with Larry, the 40 year-old neo-**** drug lord! (Yes, I am exaggerating, but I felt I needed to in order to get this point across!) And before you tell me that Larry the neo-**** drug lord doesn’t exist, think about the odds of how many people like him are out there when the game subscriptions number in the 9 millions.

just my thoughts, and nothing more. (well, perhaps a little bit more this time)
#43 Nov 02 2007 at 6:36 AM Rating: Good
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With this we do not have time for people who cannot make the decision themselves to play or not.

Immature?..I think so. I have kids so I can't always play when I want to play. So there are time when I "can not make the decision to play or not to play". SO by your post, I wouldn't be allowed in your guild b/c I value real life more than the game. And who were you saying was immature?
(disclaimer: If I read too much into that and this was not what you ment, I apologize).


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I have no problem with young players grouping with me or joining our guild, however I do voice my concerns to them about the fact that their parents may not approve as I refuse to censor my speech for anyone. If I am having a discussion about sex, drugs, alcohol, or anything else I will not cease this conversation simply because the younger guildie has logged on.


I agree to an extent. However, there is no reason (other than being an immature idiot) to go around using profanity for absolute no reason. In my opinion, most of the people who do this are the 10 year olds who are bouncing up and down in their chair excited because they just "said" a dirty word and mommy doesn't know it. If the conversation is intelegent, or atleast civil, I see no reason to curb or stop it.

I let my 8 year old daughter play wow. However, I have conditions. I must be sitting right beside her the whole time. If I get up to get something to drink or go to the bathroom, she must get up from the computer as well. I also turn off all chat (yea..all of them) so I don't have to worry about someone sending her a whisper or saying something in general I don't want her to "hear". Perhaps if more parents would take some interest in what their kids are doing and not use WoW as a virtual babysitter then there wouldn't be nearly as many problems.

Now I'm not blaming rude behavior strictly on the kids. I've seen many people who claim to be an adult that should be castraited (sp) to avoid them polluting the gene pool.
#44 Nov 02 2007 at 8:51 AM Rating: Decent
I like to respond directly to haldan,
You say that a 14 year old boy can't decide if he wants to or not wants to see something. And i totally agree with that in most cases. But i think the parents of the children are responsible.
Take a look at what cpcjlc wrote, he watches every step that his child makes, and blocked all the chat windows. Now i don't think every parent must sit next to their child and watches him/her play. But as a parent you can say to your child that he can't join guilds for example.
And i know for myself that i can make my own decisions, if "the 40 year-old neo-**** drug lord" tells me that i have to use drugs, i will block him and report him and i still wouldn't think about using drugs. I think this is also caused because i am on the "gymnasium"(i don't know the English word for it, but we have our secondary school split up into Vmbo, Havo, Atheneum and gymnasium, and gymnasium is the hardest.) so i don't have friends who are trying out some drugs. and we know what the dangers are. And i am sorry for the children who listen to what those 40 year-old neo-**** drug lords say, and i also understand that you just want to be careful for there lives, but if there parents know there children, they should be able to lay down restrictions. My parents don't check what i am doing because they know i CAN choose what i want to see.

A 14 year old boy WITH an proper education from his parents.
#45 Nov 05 2007 at 4:25 PM Rating: Decent
I'm thirteen, but my server has been cool about it. I'm in a guild where everyone knows and they don't mind. I don't get denied invites to groups.

They key is being polite. If you ***** up in an instance say sorry. Don't be rude. Don't cuss like my friend ( oh my gosh the kid walks around dropping f-bombs all day).

Some adults are worse than me. I've seen 35 year old adults kicked out of my guild for being overly rude. I've never been kicked out of a guild.

Join a new guild. Your current guild gives you crap about being a teen? Just join a new one that doesn't care.
#46 Nov 05 2007 at 4:52 PM Rating: Decent
Sorry read more posts and decided to make more comments.Anyways...

This thing about making kid's servers would suck. First of all, even though I'm 13 I would hate to be on a kids server. There would be KIDS (7,8,9,10 year olds) which makes getting any kind of group together difficult. Secondly adults would come on this server, make twinks, and just take advantage of the fact that the server is all kids. You would experience so much immaturity on this server it wouldn't even be funny to look at the general chat window. I myself would get my dad to say that I am an adult.

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one word...guilty by association, somem guilds probably had a player in the guild that was youg and acted retarded (like talking gangsta, crying all the time, or swearing worse then a sailor) then the mindset get's set that hey all young kids are like that, plus they think if u r 18+ you SHOULD have a head on your shoulders, which is both true and false.

so just remember when you are tying you hardest to be nice some other had-on is out there ruining it for you.


I think this about sums it up. At least someone understands where us, mature kids are coming from.

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I have no problem with young players grouping with me or joining our guild, however I do voice my concerns to them about the fact that their parents may not approve as I refuse to censor my speech for anyone. If I am having a discussion about sex, drugs, alcohol, or anything else I will not cease this conversation simply because the younger guildie has logged on.


I understand where you are coming from, but I think it is ridiculous to whisper someone, say "hey your parents wouldn't want you to hear what I am talking about right now", and then continue to talk about how hammered you got last night ( just an example). You don't have to say anything at all. If they are responsible they will just ignore you..if not then they're ******** themselves out of growing up to become a responsible adult.

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I would never say anything that I would not want my son to read at the same age and I only conduct mature, unbiased and informative conversations on these subjects.

Sorry. My bad about the last part.

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Kid X: O_o DOODS CHEK DIS OUT!!
Guildmember: Dude...stop typing in all caps, seriously
Kid X: SHUDAP NEWB
Kid X: SERIUSLY I FOUND THE BEST MOD EVAR
Kid X: IT MAKES EVRYTING I TYPE GO TO 1337 SPEAK!!!
Guildmaster: No, no and no
*Kid X has left the guild*
Guildmaster: booting him was the best decision I've ever made in my life. Ever.

Lol. All I can say: Lol
#47 Nov 06 2007 at 6:16 AM Rating: Good
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I don't hate kids playing WoW. In fact, I don't think I've ever asked anyone their age in game. WoW is for everyone who likes this kind of experience, regardless of age. It's all about how you interact with the people you encounter.

There is one group of 3 brothers on my friends list, and in the beginning I was SHOCKED to learn that bro #2 was only 14. We had done instance runs with him for months, and had always assumed him to be older.

Of course, my hubby and I also have three kids that play... ages 14,12 and 9. The general/trade channels are turned off when they play and their play time is closely monitored. We don't sit right next to them (although I guess we probably should) but we're hovering right around the area. The computers are in a central location in the house, so it's not such a big deal. They all know the rules, and failure to abide by the rules results in not playing WoW again until they're 37. Period.

I will tell you that the age question can go both ways. There was one night a few months ago that my husband and I were milling around IF deciding what we ahould do next, when he answered a "WTB some leather armor set" I don't remember what one... I'm old. So he meets this dwarf hunter by the bank, makes what was requested, and wished this person good luck. The hunter says he was now going to go look for an enchanter for the boots I think. Hubby says "well, my wife's a chanter and she's right here. Let me see if she can do it for ya."

Well, this person says, "your WIFE???? You're old enough to be married???? You guys must be internet stalkers!!!! I can't talk to you anymore!!!" Before he could respond that we were just game addicts, he was /ignored. I swear to you that we never asked this "kid" as we now knew, his age, name, location... nothing. It was a simple 'business' transaction in game. I will say though, Kudos to the kid's parents for teaching him about the "dark side" of internet MMORPG's. I'd rather get /ignored than to see one kid run into the wrong person.

/end of long windedness for today.... at least in this thread
#48 Nov 06 2007 at 10:48 AM Rating: Default
This topic caught my eye because i have this problem playing world of warcraft at the age of 13. Many people discriminate me because of my age and you can probably tell from this reply i am quite mature. However when a guild asks me how old i am if i say 13 they will almsot certainly say no........ I hate this and its shallow on their part, not mine. In my guild i am in now i have been dubbed the wise one because i act so sensible lol so it is wrong to discriminate because of age. Give the person a chance then say no if they are retarded and stupid....
#49 Nov 06 2007 at 5:42 PM Rating: Default
I hate kids playing WoW because they can ruin a faction. The majority of minors plays Alliance, which is alright with me if they aren't fools who play on normal servers, but when a lowbie pvper comes along they have the balls to attack and rape them( gank is the word). Most kids just act like new players, and that gets anoying. Yes, also the textmessage speak, and spam yelling, and all that other annoying good stuff, but you'll find that anywhere because not everyone knows how to behave in the chatbox.

-Moon
#50 Nov 07 2007 at 5:59 AM Rating: Default
i feel ur pain man! im 16 and people think since im underage they think i wouldn't b helpful 2 do anything. so thats y most of my guild is made up 17 and under....hell i even have an 8 year old in the guild and let me say he is a BIG aset for the guild cuz he rocks! i dont determine players on their age but on how well they play there char and how nice they r. :)
#51 Nov 07 2007 at 6:35 AM Rating: Decent
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It completely depends on the person and the maturity level.

Personally I do not like it when I have to interact with "well cuz i dun c u, kk?" a lot, and I find that, yes, younger folks tend to type more this way than many (not all) older folks do. But apart from that, it's an issue of maturity. Is the person mature enough to interact with others in adult-like manner or not. Some people are, and others are not. It just varies quite a bit. There are plenty of older players who are morons as well -- it doesn't always correlate to age.

I personally prefer that people keep their ages to themselves. I mean, normally I do not hang around with teenagers in my freetime -- I am more than twice their age, we have little in common, and it would be very odd for both people. So the idea of hanging out with them in a video game is also just that --- odd. I would therefore prefer if people were more age-neutral, and simply kept their ages to themselves. Sometimes it isn't possible, but I generally think these should be the exceptions rather than the rule.
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