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#1 Mar 25 2008 at 9:38 PM Rating: Decent
Need a little help. I have played WoW for about two years and think it's time to try something knew.

WoW has been a lot of fun for me but I feel the customer service has been anything but good. I was served a notice my account would be suspended for 72 hours with a vague reason that could be anything under the sun. I tried to contact Blizzard by email two days ago without any response from them. On the Blizzard site it says they have no phone numbers to handle such questions. So I tried the Blizzard forums for help however I am not allowed to use them cus my said account has been suspended for 72 hours. I am unable at this time to even go in and cancel my account I pay $15.00 and can't play. So I came to the WoW forums here at Allakhazam and most said that this is some hack or Blizzard sometimes suspends accounts by accident. But for the most part it look as if they think I did something wrong. I assure you that I have not and have never had so much as a warning for in game behavior the two years I have played.

And a lot of posters think my account has been hacked into. They say it may take days or even weeks to sort this out. They say this has been a growing problem over the last few months. Is this a problem with EQ2 or is EQ2 a more secure product? I just feel after paying for the game 39$ the exp 39$ and two years at 15$ for a total of $438.00 without a problem until now...at least I should get a chance to speak with someone and an explanation to why the account was suspended.

So I'm looking for a more mature company with some type of professionalism, customer service ( Not afraid to acknowledge you are human), and with a more adult designed game. I have read good things about EQ2 in the past but really don't know the big differences between EQ2 and WoW if compared side by side. I have read the FAQ to the game and both seem a lot a like. Now I was hoping maybe someone on this forum that has played both games could give me a better understanding of the differences.

So bottem line...

Game play
Customer service
Account Security
Anything other then the above you think I should know.

Thank you all
#2 Mar 25 2008 at 11:09 PM Rating: Decent
If I were you i'd take a break from WoW and discover EverQuest 2. Honestly, EQ2 and it's capabilities fascinate me a bit.
#3 Mar 26 2008 at 1:01 AM Rating: Decent
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Well gameplay is a little more complex than WoW's in a way. I dunno if WoW allows you to have more than one hotbar up or not and how many skills WoW has, but in eq2 you will use quite a few hotbars at a time and all of em might be close to being filled. The basic gameplay elements are the same as WoW's so it shouldnt take you that long to learn.

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Depends, sometimes it is slow and can take a few days and sometimes it only takes a few minutes to get help.

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Account Security


Supposedly there have been account hackings, but it is easy to avoid by making your password hard to use, dont use the same password as anything you use on websites, and dont share your account.

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Anything other then the above you think I should know.


The game is about the same age as WoW, but has more expansions, so when you buy it be sure to buy the newest expansion, Rise of Kunark, it contains all expansions and base game, this is the best deal since it is only 40 bucks.

Even though it is an older game there are still new people joining and low level groups are possible (18+ usually) this is all i can think of for now so if anyone can add stuff...be free to lol.

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No problem. If you start on Antonia Bayle be sure to look me up, i could get you started a bit easier and maybe get you into my guild. That is...if you come over to EQ2 :)
#4 Mar 26 2008 at 4:37 AM Rating: Decent
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Try the free trial.

It is free, will give you some idea of the game, and if you decide to buy it, you can keep any characters you created in the trial. The trial lasts for 14 days and is level capped.

#5 Mar 26 2008 at 8:36 AM Rating: Decent
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Game play
Customer service
Account Security
Anything other then the above you think I should know.


Game play: not all that dissimilar really. Basic things are the same, you'll have lots of hotbars filling the screen, you'll be harvesting (but you can harvest everything, not just restricted to the type you chose in advance) without having to buy tools (although there are some to help harvest faster), you'll have more and bigger bags (always bothered me with WoW, not enough bag room). You'll get your spells for free up to lvl 50 (weakest version only though, need to buy, create or find the better versions, advisable after a certain level), after that you need to buy, create or find the drops to get the spells.

Classes are similar but more diverse, even if some are pretty alike.

Levelling won't be as fast, although the first fifteen or so fly by. It's still pretty fast though, especially compared to older games like EQI.

PvP isn't really all that big as in WoW, I've never seen any pvp on a non-pvp server as I did on WoW; it's possible, but just not that common. That's perhaps a bit of a lacking, in WoW you could have large battles between players in certain areas but no one is forced to join on non-pvp servers. Those fights can be fun, sometimes anyway.

Ofcourse, there are pvp servers too.

Both games have a decent training place for beginning players. Perhaps the EQII version isn't as integrated as the WoW one, and I hope they got round to fixing the bugs in the Qeynos starting island, but the added starting places (Faydwer and later) are a lot prettier and more fun to start at.

Visually, the two games are not alike at all. WoW has a sort of colourful cartoony approach going, with EQ there's more of a "realistic" look, which might be a bit bland at first, but if you go to newer zones, they really improved the colours. EQII is also a lot harder on a computer than WoW, I never had a problem playing WoW, listening to music and surfing at the same time, but that isn't as easy to do with EQII. Granted, I can now, but beefed up my computer recently.

I have only had one real problem with the SOE customer service, and I had no problem whatsoever in EQII that wasn't solved within the hour. Perhaps I got lucky, but all my problems (loss of an item due to a server crash, ...) were solved rapidly and efficiently. Heck, SOE was even willing to recreate a character in EQI that I deleted three or so years ago, if I hadn't started a new one with the same name. So I really have no problem with the customer service. Apart from computer problems, I twice had a lengthy mailing debate with SOE about connection problems, once in EQ I wich ended in me deleting earlier mentioned character and moving to a different game, and more recently in EQII with Vista. Without the help of a poster here, I would never have found the problem.

Account security, that's an issue for all games I should think. I haven't heard as many horror tales about EQII, but then there aren't about ten million playing it either.


Everquest II is a very good game, I still feel it's much better than WoW, larger, more to do, a lot more quests, visually better, ... All personal opinions, you can easily download the trial version but just remember that the trial version only includes the starting zones, and those are very limited when compared to the rest of the game.

It's worth it!
#6 Mar 26 2008 at 9:55 AM Rating: Decent
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And this is why i said someone else should add onto what i said...now alot of info is covered.
#7 Mar 26 2008 at 11:21 AM Rating: Excellent
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A word about security: The problem is not within any particular game company (ie: SOE has not been hacked) but the fault of keylogger-type viruses running rampant on the 'net. Practice Safe Surfing and smart passwording and you should be fine.

I've got several links on security hints around here somewhere if you're interested.

PS: download the trial! Be prepared for a long d/l and a long patch, because you're downloading 3/4 of the game. But if you hate it, all you're out is time.
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#8 Mar 26 2008 at 12:16 PM Rating: Decent
Forgot to add: you can solo as easy in both games. There are more reasons to group in EQII though, sure you can go to lvl 80 on your own in EQII (as I did basically), but then you will miss out on some very good instances and quests when they are rewarding. There never was much of pressure to group in WoW really, some instances sure, but in a whole not needed at all.

Guilds are a good thing in both, a great source for filling up groups, finding the items, armour, spells, ... you need. In EQII, some things can only be bougth when you are part of a guild, certain types of housing, mounts and items have a requirement of a certain lvl guild. It's a decent motivation to seek a guild.
#9 Mar 26 2008 at 1:31 PM Rating: Decent
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I also forgot to add something!

There are things called Alternate Achievements (AA's) in this game...i guess like WoW's trait trees? Anyways, they start at level 10 and for every quest you complete you get some experience to your AA points, this is if you have Echoes of Faydwer (EoF) and Kingdom of Sky (KoS) expansions. The AA's are split up between class and subclass tabs, some are good and some arent as appealing.

Race dosnt matter much on this game, but some have small...very small advantages with the new racial traits.

And there we go...thats all i can think of right now.
#10 Mar 30 2008 at 12:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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Well gameplay is a little more complex than WoW's in a way. I dunno if WoW allows you to have more than one hotbar up or not and how many skills WoW has, but in eq2 you will use quite a few hotbars at a time and all of em might be close to being filled. The basic gameplay elements are the same as WoW's so it shouldnt take you that long to learn.

Actually having played both WoW and EQII in a raid setting I would have to say WoW wins. Personal preference and all but there is just more room for skill to shine with the skills you have.




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Depends, sometimes it is slow and can take a few days and sometimes it only takes a few minutes to get help.

Had excellent experiences with both Soe and Blizzard, if you're account got hacked (which is due to your own lack of security) then you will have to wait the 72 hours while Blizz locks things down. Often hacked accounts are stripped of gear/money and are used to perform exploits etc. Also remember any RMT, power leveling services, account sharing etc could get you hit as well. Lot of people who log on at one location then play somewhere else have a problem with getting temp bans

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Account Security


Supposedly there have been account hackings, but it is easy to avoid by making your password hard to use, dont use the same password as anything you use on websites, and dont share your account.

Is entirely up to you. Blizzard is not at fault for you having your information stolen by a trojan or hacker. Don't click on links from people you don't know, watch what you download, get firefox+noscript, run antivirus and keep it up todate.



EQII and WoW are both very solid games. They both have their ups and downs.

WoW is more polished, has more funding, bigger population and is very well designed with the casual gamer in mind. There is end game content that will challenge even the most hardcore raiders though. That being said big populations means a lot of immaturity, you feel lost in the crowd and you don't get connected with things sometimes.

EQII is wonky, poor release but has gradually shifted into a more WoW type frame of MMO over the last couple years all while retaining its own sense of identity. The population is a fraction of that of WoW but WoW is the anomaly, not the rule so overall EQII has a normal MMO population, and with some strong marketing and good marketing ideas over the last 18 months it has been getting a lot of new players.

But coles notes is that for 40 bucks you can pick up the game and all the expansions and try it out for a month to find out how you feel about it, check it out and decide for yourself.

Edited, Mar 30th 2008 4:34pm by bodhisattva
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