Fan Faire Report: EQ2 - Rising Into KunarkFollow

Bad ***

Excellent stuff! Great video.



I actually agree, sadly enough.

It's always wait and see ofcourse, perhaps Sony'll throw me a beta now too for no particular reason, but there's more emphasis on raiding and the likes than with Faydwer.



Edited, Aug 9th 2007 9:46pm by Zieveraar

I'm not even knocking raiders or the raiding style. Some folk have more time than others. That's cool. And they should be rewarded for investing more of their time in the game. No sweat. But make the encounters *harder*, not longer. Make them more strategically difficult, not more time consuming. Increase the challenges presented to raiders tactically. I can raid very little. Once every couple months if I'm lucky for one night. So while it's difficult for me to obtain items and quest updates that require raiding (still working on Wurmslayer) it isn't impossible. But this move towards long, persistent instance multi-day raids makes ever...ever seeing this content an impossibility for me. And that's just damn depressing. If it can't be done in one night, I can't do it. Simple as that.

I'm just praying that the SK epic will only require a raid of something that can be raided in one evening/sitting. If it's part of one of these silly multi-day raids, then I'm sorry...and I've never said this before...I may have to throw in the towel on EQ2. I couldn't stand to have such a class-defining item such as that in the game and it be an impossibility to acquire. That would be it for me. And don't try to sell me on the "Oh but there's a legendary version..". That's a cop-out. Final product or nothing. In EQ1 I didn't stop at "Corrupted Ghoulbane" because the rest of the quest required a raid and I won't do that here. But if the raiding required is multi-night...it'd be a damn shame to throw away all those characters I worked so hard on...but...I don't know.

Edited, Aug 9th 2007 4:28pm by Stugein

Actually, Stu, I really truncated Liz' raid presentation 'cause it's so fun to listen too. I think raiders will find it's more than grindage. Taking a long long time to run through doesn't mean it's not complex and challenging too.

Overall the whole presentation left me with a really positive feeling, even though I was hoping for level-spanning expansion and don't give a hoot about raiding, lol.

See, i'm still not sure how persistant instances work. I can only raid once or twice every month or two. So I can start EH or VP or one of the other multi-day raids, then leave at the end of the night and a month and a half later when I happen to find another pickup raid for that zone they'll start where I left off? Doesn't seem right...

It's not even a matter of lack of playtime. It's a matter of lack of uninterrupted playtime. I play almost every other night for several hours. But it's broken up by wife asking for things, kids needing things...I can't sit for long periods in one stretch uninterrupted. Lots of unannounced AFKs, sometimes for 10 minutes or more depending on whats happening...and that's just not fair to a raid when there could be someone else in my slot giving the task at hand their undivided attention. So pretty much the only times I get to raid are (A) after the kids are in bed on a night that my wife happens to go out with her friends or (B) if the wife and kids go out of town to visit family and I can't go with because I have to work.

Raids are fine and I don't want to take anything away from the raiders. I'm just hoping beyond hope that the raids for the SK epic (the real one, not the fake legendary one) are doable in a single evening. Because then, even if it takes a year or two for the perfect storm of opportunity and raid availability to happen, at least it's possible. If it's a multi-day raid however, it would make the acquisition of the weapon an impossibility for me.

Yeah. I'm not even saying that the final epics should be available to solo'ers or groupers. I have no problem with them requiring a raid. They are a status symbol. But don't further limit it to not only raiders, but to raiders in a certain class of uber guild. Make it a one nighter. Or even several one nighters than can be stretched over the course of several years if need be for the casual/pickup raiders. Make it something that someone who is willing to put in the effort can obtain. Even multiple raids like Wurmslayer. No sweat. But don't make us have to leave our guilds or turn over our lives to the game because of some silly multi-day persistent instance zone raiding requirement for an update that only 2% of the guilds on a server might be able to pull off. Johnny Badnik isn't a better SK than I am because he happens to be a member of <Ne Plus Bekwen's Fires of Ascension's Alliance of Norrath>. He doesn't deserve the SK epic any more or less than I do having dedicated myself to the class for the better part of the last decade.

I dont play a lot, as in I play 3 hrs a night a few times a week, but I've been able to find a kick *** guild that is casual raiding. And the group of people are so well in tune with one another that we are able to achieve the high end raids even when only raiding twice a week. I'm lucky that as a casual gamer, Ive been able to see as much of the end game as I have.

That said, from a raiders perspective, I personally am happy they are adding more content. When EOF came out there were a few raid instances. Unfortunately ( or fortunately for me now) our guild disbanded at that time for supposed greener pastures but just recently came back. So we are just now starting to work on the EOF raids. Even as a casual raiding guild, only going out twice a week, the older content does get to be too redundant. Personally, if I never see Vyem or Tarinxax again it willb e too soon. Ok, maybe once every 6 months as a reunion.

The thing I like about the new raid idea is that you do not have to stay up for hours on end to finish. From what I understand, you can zone back in later and continue where ever you stopped prior. Is this correct? This is what my guild is getting out of it, at least. If thats true, I would think it would be even better for the more casual raiders. Many of us have families or jobs, and cant stay up until 3am nightly for a raid. So instead of trying to hit up the quicker raids, or farm raids due to time constraints, you can now work as a team to clear a new raid, and take your time with it. Nothing is rushed, it would be more relaxing, and I would hope for the casual gamer, more enjoyable, not to mention more accessible

thats very true. And one of the reasons I count myself so lucky to have found a guild that actually caters to families AND can handle high end raiding without going to the extreme as most raiding guilds do. If I hadnt found this particular guild, I would never have been able to see half the stuff I have.

I always wonder why there arent more out there like mine.

Since we're gently plugging Guilds who seem to offer a place for the mature player with obligations I'll toss up The Rallosian Guard on Befallen. We're just picking up after many walked away for a while after seeing EoF start up. But the theme is the same. Focused players who have real life in the way - yet when we can get together we do things efficiently and with a sense of skill that's pretty darn impressive. TRG is a web clan and has teams in many other games as well. http://forums.trggaming.net


Edited, Aug 13th 2007 1:03am by MerleFR