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hi i have a question about how come i get owned so hard in pvp? me n a friend of mine just started playing and this lvl 14 dwarf scout... not sure if she was an assassin completly owned me n my friend (im a 16 ratoga assassin hes 16 brawler) yes i know their r twinks out there but shouldnt i have been able to do some dmg? soo i guess what im asking for is could anybody give me some hints on pvp n what i should do to get good at the game?!?! thx in advanced
PvP is a mix of skill, gear and pure luck.
Knowing that PvP is an entirely different game than fighting a mob is crucial. Knowing how to make the most of your abilities and to minimize your opponent is key. So you need a strong understanding of your class as well as the class you are fighting. My guess is that she was somewhat twinked and jumped you without you even knowing that she was their. Probably had the first person down while you were both fumbling at your keyboards and kited/stunned the other pretty while she was waiting for abilities to repop.
You are gonna get your nosed bloody your first couple fights. You will either learn how to respond and sharpen your reaction times or else you are going to have a really **** poor gameplay experience as you level up. No one is going to be able to tell you the leet skillz necessary to win, you are gonna have to pick that up on your own. I would recommend reading the o-boards especially the pvp forums for tips and strats.
I'd also look at your abilities and really begin to understand them. You have a poison debuff that will also slow the movement speed, you have a root attack ability which is great for kiting, make sure you are using your poisons and breaking into stealth as quick as possible. If you are not using these things and using them right you are gonna die hard.
Knowing that PvP is an entirely different game than fighting a mob is crucial. Knowing how to make the most of your abilities and to minimize your opponent is key. So you need a strong understanding of your class as well as the class you are fighting. My guess is that she was somewhat twinked and jumped you without you even knowing that she was their. Probably had the first person down while you were both fumbling at your keyboards and kited/stunned the other pretty while she was waiting for abilities to repop.
You are gonna get your nosed bloody your first couple fights. You will either learn how to respond and sharpen your reaction times or else you are going to have a really **** poor gameplay experience as you level up. No one is going to be able to tell you the leet skillz necessary to win, you are gonna have to pick that up on your own. I would recommend reading the o-boards especially the pvp forums for tips and strats.
I'd also look at your abilities and really begin to understand them. You have a poison debuff that will also slow the movement speed, you have a root attack ability which is great for kiting, make sure you are using your poisons and breaking into stealth as quick as possible. If you are not using these things and using them right you are gonna die hard.
Bode - 100 Holy Paladin - Lightbringer
I don't know many people that PvP on these boards. You may have better luck on the official boards.
Off the top of top of my head, I can think of a few things you can do differently.
1. This is a very hard skill to master, but once you have, it is beautiful. Run at the target and jump over their head. While in the air, do a 180 so that when you land, you are facing your opponents back. Have a backstab attack at the ready. If you can master that, PvP will go a lot easier.
2. Never stop moving. Try to get to the side of your opponent so you can try to get some backstabs in there as well.
3. Learn the intricacies of your skills. Always, always, always use your interrupts and knock-downs. These are critical to surviving in PvP. They can stop casters from opening up a can of whoop *** on you and they can knock others down to give you a few chances at a backstab.
4. Use a bow. Have a good bow in hand so you can hit your opponent while you are out of their range.
5. Use your stealth skills. It is hard to hit an opponent that you can't see.
6. Keep your weapons and, most importantly, your skills upgraded as high as your wallet can handle. This scout probably had her skills at least to Apprentice IV, if not Adept I or better. The upgrades allow your skills to perform at much higher efficiency than their original counterpart. And unlike the Apprentice I version, the higher skills have a greater success rate of landing on a yellow con or higher individual.
That's about all I have. Again, the official boards would probably hold more info.
Edited, Jan 23rd 2007 11:12am by Mearyk
Off the top of top of my head, I can think of a few things you can do differently.
1. This is a very hard skill to master, but once you have, it is beautiful. Run at the target and jump over their head. While in the air, do a 180 so that when you land, you are facing your opponents back. Have a backstab attack at the ready. If you can master that, PvP will go a lot easier.
2. Never stop moving. Try to get to the side of your opponent so you can try to get some backstabs in there as well.
3. Learn the intricacies of your skills. Always, always, always use your interrupts and knock-downs. These are critical to surviving in PvP. They can stop casters from opening up a can of whoop *** on you and they can knock others down to give you a few chances at a backstab.
4. Use a bow. Have a good bow in hand so you can hit your opponent while you are out of their range.
5. Use your stealth skills. It is hard to hit an opponent that you can't see.
6. Keep your weapons and, most importantly, your skills upgraded as high as your wallet can handle. This scout probably had her skills at least to Apprentice IV, if not Adept I or better. The upgrades allow your skills to perform at much higher efficiency than their original counterpart. And unlike the Apprentice I version, the higher skills have a greater success rate of landing on a yellow con or higher individual.
That's about all I have. Again, the official boards would probably hold more info.
Edited, Jan 23rd 2007 11:12am by Mearyk
i want to craft adapt skills but it says i need raw lapis? something like that but when i bought lapis off the broker it was the wrong one!?!?1 witch one am i supposed to use n where can i get it?
You have to be careful because of the new Transmuting and Tinkering systems introduced in Echoes of Faydwer. You probably bought lapis lazuli fragments which are used in Transmuting. You need to purchase the regular lapis lazuli in order to craft Adept III's. A good site to put in your repertoire is EQ2 traders. There are a lot of helpful tidbits of information for potential crafters. One of the most beneficial is the list of byproducts for the different nodes. You can find that here. This link will tell you the different things rares can produce.
EDIT: Added another link for you.
Edited, Jan 23rd 2007 11:44am by Mearyk
EDIT: Added another link for you.
Edited, Jan 23rd 2007 11:44am by Mearyk
haha tyvm i appricate the help how do i get a mount is it worth it?
“You have slighted the A and the D for the last time!†Shouted the dwarf as it leapt to attack you.
Ktok wrote:
“You have slighted the A and the D for the last time!†Shouted the dwarf as it leapt to attack you.
HAHAHA!! Priceless.
+1 Ktok!
Shokon wrote:
haha tyvm i appricate the help how do i get a mount is it worth it?
In South Qeynos or West Freeport there is a stable,indicated by a horse head on your map,you buy mounts there.Mounts can cost either just platinum(the slowest horse being about 2PP) or status points and platinum.Also you can only get the best horses with a high guild level.
Alternativly at level 47 or thereabouts you can start THIS quest for a 40% speed increase flying carpet.
And IMO,unless your a Druid or Shaman type I believe mounts are a good investment.
Don't buy it, go to the newbie zones and harvest. You'll be rolling in T1 rares in a couple hours, the drop off something like 1 in 10 harvests. Lapis Lazuli drops off the soft metal/gem nodes that also give turquoise and lead.
Also, you'll outgrow your 1 - 10 newbie spells very quickly, so it's not worth putting a lot of money in them. You're probably better off harvesting for coral in T2 zones (Commonlands and Antonica). Rares there are about 1 in 50. You can also sell the common harvests and the rares you don't want for quite a bit of coin right now with all the people using tons of hard metal and loam on tinkering.
Horses are not worth the expense. Buy some Spirit Totems of the Wolf from the broker, they're good for 2.5 hours of 24% run speed boost, faster than the ceapest horse. You can buy hundreds of them for the price of that same horse. When you get to level 30 or so, do the JBoots HQ (free) for another stacking 10%, then at 45 you can do the carpet quest that gives 40% speed (non-stacking) (free again). The fastest horse in the game is 48%... 8% faster for how much plat and status? You do the math. I still don't have a horse and have no desire to get one. (I am a cheapskate.)
Edited, Jan 23rd 2007 3:54pm by Lydiaele
Also, you'll outgrow your 1 - 10 newbie spells very quickly, so it's not worth putting a lot of money in them. You're probably better off harvesting for coral in T2 zones (Commonlands and Antonica). Rares there are about 1 in 50. You can also sell the common harvests and the rares you don't want for quite a bit of coin right now with all the people using tons of hard metal and loam on tinkering.
Horses are not worth the expense. Buy some Spirit Totems of the Wolf from the broker, they're good for 2.5 hours of 24% run speed boost, faster than the ceapest horse. You can buy hundreds of them for the price of that same horse. When you get to level 30 or so, do the JBoots HQ (free) for another stacking 10%, then at 45 you can do the carpet quest that gives 40% speed (non-stacking) (free again). The fastest horse in the game is 48%... 8% faster for how much plat and status? You do the math. I still don't have a horse and have no desire to get one. (I am a cheapskate.)
Edited, Jan 23rd 2007 3:54pm by Lydiaele
Lydiaele wrote:
Horses are not worth the expense. Buy some Spirit Totems of the Wolf from the broker, they're good for 2.5 hours of 24% run speed boost, faster than the ceapest horse. You can buy hundreds of them for the price of that same horse. When you get to level 30 or so, do the JBoots HQ (free) for another stacking 10%, then at 45 you can do the carpet quest that gives 40% speed (non-stacking) (free again). The fastest horse in the game is 48%... 8% faster for how much plat and status? You do the math. I still don't have a horse and have no desire to get one. (I am a cheapskate.)
Edited, Jan 23rd 2007 3:54pm by Lydiaele
Nitpick a bit if I may.Without help from friends or a really fast horse you'll be hard pressed to finish the Jboots HQ until late 30s early 40s.And early levels running back and forth across Antonica or the Commonlands 24% isn't very much.ITs easy to get status and *enough* plat to buy a horse,even easier with help from friends.Also the fastest horses are 50% speed plus bonuses to melee skills or mitigation versus magic damage.I still stand by my comment a horse is a worthwhile investment,and even when you outgrow it or find you don't need it you can always sell it back for very close to the amount of PP and Status you paid for it.
Also depending on his/her play style he/she may take a long time to each 30+ for the JBoots and 45+ for the carpet,making a horse a even more long term investment.This is of course up to him/her and if he/she finds 24% is fast enough or doesn't want to do writs/HQs then the totems may very well be a better route to take.
EDIT* For Spelling
Edited, Jan 23rd 2007 9:16pm by Skargg
Edited, Jan 23rd 2007 9:17pm by Skargg
I'm rather new to EQII myself. I'm not new to PvP however. I have fought honorably and played a PK/Griefer both on and off for years in another game. What I've noticed as I've slowly worked my way up the ladder in EQII from "bait" or "fodder" to "steer clear" or "he can defend himself" is this. Those low level PK's are typically twinked out. There's no advantage to locking one's level so low unless your only goal is to go out and harvest newbs.
Find quiet areas to level up and adventure and try to stay away from the spots that are popular on the PvE servers. These areas are going to be camped for transplants 24/7.
I play a PvP server because I enjoy that extra risk in a game. I am bored to tears in games or on servers where there is no non-consentual PvP. Not that I'm any good at it.. never have been.. But, I've always enjoyed the thrill of not knowing when something or somebody is going to pop out of no where and attack. The monster AI in these games is far too easy to predict. Add the challenge of a non-AI and you have risk and excitement.
Hang in there.. as others have already said.. expect a few blows to the ego for a while. Learn from them. I guarantee you'll find yourself reacting quicker and more efficiently each time they set up on you going forward!
*bows with a flourish*
Find quiet areas to level up and adventure and try to stay away from the spots that are popular on the PvE servers. These areas are going to be camped for transplants 24/7.
I play a PvP server because I enjoy that extra risk in a game. I am bored to tears in games or on servers where there is no non-consentual PvP. Not that I'm any good at it.. never have been.. But, I've always enjoyed the thrill of not knowing when something or somebody is going to pop out of no where and attack. The monster AI in these games is far too easy to predict. Add the challenge of a non-AI and you have risk and excitement.
Hang in there.. as others have already said.. expect a few blows to the ego for a while. Learn from them. I guarantee you'll find yourself reacting quicker and more efficiently each time they set up on you going forward!
*bows with a flourish*
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