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#1 Jan 14 2007 at 8:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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The Dragons of Norrath have always seemed to be ruthless without much regard to the lesser races. It seems every time a dragon comes a long with good intentions, eventually that dragon's true motive is discovered and it's never for the good of Norrath.

So the question to think about here is "Can a Dragon ever truly be trusted?".
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#2 Jan 14 2007 at 9:25 PM Rating: Decent
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Well if a dragon promise me that he will kill me, I'll trust him on that.
#3 Jan 15 2007 at 5:01 AM Rating: Good
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Sure, a dead dragon is a trustworthy dragon.
#4 Jan 15 2007 at 8:48 AM Rating: Good
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Dragons are extremely trustworthy as long as you understand that their promises are never stated in such a way that locks them into what you may expect them to provide.

For example, Naggy didn’t give you the amazing wealth he promised in Deception because you didn’t save the egg. However, he did actually want you to destroy it, and you did, but that wasn’t what he *asked* you to do. He did exactly what he said… if you bring the egg back, you get great wealth. You didn’t, so you didn’t.

Just be aware that they state things very literally to weight events in their favor and you’ll see that they do exactly as they say they will.
#5 Jan 15 2007 at 9:41 PM Rating: Good
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If you give a dragon a cookie....
#6 Jan 16 2007 at 12:15 PM Rating: Good
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No for you are crunchy and tast good with ketchup
#7 Jan 16 2007 at 1:34 PM Rating: Decent
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If a dragon poopoos in Nek Forest and no one is around to smell it...
#8 Jan 16 2007 at 1:37 PM Rating: Excellent
spoonofthebeast wrote:
If you give a dragon a cookie....


...he'll probably ask for a glass of milk to go with it.

Now if you give a dragon a pancake...
#9 Jan 16 2007 at 3:31 PM Rating: Decent
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Stugein wrote:
Now if you give a dragon a pancake...


then he will need some syrup and butter. maybe some eggs and bacon also.

now, if you give him a bologne sandwich...
#10 Jan 16 2007 at 5:37 PM Rating: Excellent
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Stugein wrote:
spoonofthebeast wrote:
If you give a dragon a cookie....


...he'll probably ask for a glass of milk to go with it.

Now if you give a dragon a pancake...


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#11 Jan 16 2007 at 5:44 PM Rating: Good
Qwash noted:
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now, if you give him a bologne sandwich...

he'll only want some mayo and a slice of cheese.

Now, if you give him a big bowl of Texas Chili...



Edited, Jan 16th 2007 5:39pm by OldBlueDragon
#12 Jan 17 2007 at 5:53 AM Rating: Decent
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OldBlueDragon wrote:
Qwash noted:
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now, if you give him a bologne sandwich...

he'll only want some mayo and a slice of cheese.

Now, if you give him a big bowl of Texas Chili...

Edited, Jan 16th 2007 5:39pm by OldBlueDragon


Then you DEFINITELY cannot trust them. Hell, I don't even trust myself after a big bowl of that liquid death.
#13 Jan 17 2007 at 8:51 AM Rating: Decent
Only if the dragon's life is attached to your life like off of Eragon. So you can kill the weaker one to finish off a dragon's reign. But besides that if they arent Eragon type of dragons....rofl should stab them in the heart.
#14 Jan 17 2007 at 9:06 AM Rating: Excellent
Rokd wrote:
Only if the dragon's life is attached to your life like off of Eragon. So you can kill the weaker one to finish off a dragon's reign. But besides that if they arent Eragon type of dragons....rofl should stab them in the heart.


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#15 Jan 17 2007 at 9:22 AM Rating: Good
OldBlueDragon wrote:
Qwash noted:
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now, if you give him a bologne sandwich...

he'll only want some mayo and a slice of cheese.

Now, if you give him a big bowl of Texas Chili...



Edited, Jan 16th 2007 5:39pm by OldBlueDragon


Well that gets more complicated. Texas chili, they would want cheddar, fritos, onions, jalapeno's, and some more stuff I cant remember from the chili meeting at work.

Now if you give them a couple of halflings to choke on?





#16 Jan 17 2007 at 9:33 AM Rating: Decent
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Now if you give them a couple of halflings to choke on?


Again? We should consider the dragon's diet and add some variaty! Thrown in a Barbarian from time to time, lots of meat on those. (I have heard that dragons don't really care much for frogs)
#17 Jan 17 2007 at 11:47 AM Rating: Good
Zieveraar wrote:
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Now if you give them a couple of halflings to choke on?


Again? We should consider the dragon's diet and add some variaty! Thrown in a Barbarian from time to time, lots of meat on those. (I have heard that dragons don't really care much for frogs)


I was just thinking of the dragons figure, I didnt want to see them get to fat to get out the door. Then we would never see a dragon burn freeport to the ground.

I would of said ratonga's, but they are a bit hairy, the same with the kerra, I wouldnt want to be around a dragon trying to get rid of a hair ball. You already said they dont want them some frog legs. We all know elves dont have any meat on them, it would be like eating chinese, the dragon would be hungry within an hour. Drawfs, you can never get the taste of dirt out of your mouth, and gnomes with all of their odd chemicals would grow hair on the dragons tongue. That leaves humans and halflings. With halflings being to perfect snack size, they would be the obvious choice to feed the dragons.
#18 Jan 17 2007 at 12:40 PM Rating: Decent
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We all know elves dont have any meat on them, it would be like eating chinese, the dragon would be hungry within an hour.


True, but there's a whole load of elves out there. Surely the dragon can enjoy himself for a couple of weeks, culling the herd so to speak?
#19 Jan 17 2007 at 5:35 PM Rating: Excellent
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Stugein wrote:
Rokd wrote:
Only if the dragon's life is attached to your life like off of Eragon. So you can kill the weaker one to finish off a dragon's reign. But besides that if they arent Eragon type of dragons....rofl should stab them in the heart.


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#20 Jan 18 2007 at 4:33 AM Rating: Decent
I don't think all dragons or dragonkind should all be considered untrustworthy at all. I'm of the Anne McCaffrey frame of mind when it comes to dragons. And so how is it that all dragons got to be the untrustworthy hoard from the sky? It must be because devs have a major lack of imagination. Considering the level of intelligence the dragons are given surely means that at least SOME of them are civilized and therefore worthy of a better thought out purpose in games? Not all lizards are the same, but, as a species in games, lizards (dragons) are generally lumped together and are kill-worthy. How boring. So, my answer is that dragons can generally be trustworthy, but not according to game devs.

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#21 Jan 18 2007 at 8:51 AM Rating: Good
I would say the devs made them evil because that makes better story telling. Evil dragons are more willing to manipulate and double cross people, then people get a better satisfaction from killing them for what they have done, and it can be shared by both sides. Good dragons have a more limited story line, and for raids only half of the classes can go.

You are only using one source for dragons, even the good dragons in DnD shouldnt be trusted all the time. There all dragons have a natural greed, and do what they can to aquire more wealth. Good dragons may not burn cities to the ground, but they will mislead and give partial information to get what they want.
#22 Jan 19 2007 at 12:25 AM Rating: Decent
Please get back on subject, didn't someone mention cookies? (and milk)

Edited, Jan 19th 2007 3:16am by forumwiz
#23 Jan 19 2007 at 7:25 PM Rating: Good
I thought the subject was dragons and trust? Isnt that on topic?Smiley: confused
#24 Jan 30 2007 at 8:53 PM Rating: Decent
Dragons would be like any other intelligent species; trustworthy to a point, willing to back stab if it gets them what they want at the lowest cost.
#25 Jan 31 2007 at 5:55 AM Rating: Decent
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