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#1 Jan 12 2007 at 10:56 AM Rating: Good
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I have been playing around on my Berserker for the last couple days. I havent played him much since EoF release. I had only managed to get 4 AA's before EoF release. Questing and exploring.

Well I log in and started doing EL and Zek quests and before I know it I have 14 AA's. 2-3 blue quests will give me a AA. Never remembered it being that fast.
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#2 Jan 12 2007 at 12:02 PM Rating: Decent
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I think that it goes like this.

Quest color to you.

grey=none
green= a little bit
blue=little more then green
white=more than blue
and on up.

I just purchased EOF this week and AA's have been rolling in since.
#3 Jan 12 2007 at 12:25 PM Rating: Good
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I know how it works, what I am saying is that compared to pre-eof, the xp now seems to go by faster.
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#4 Jan 12 2007 at 12:31 PM Rating: Good
Can't say for sure but it is wholly possible that the current XP boost also applies to AA XP, no?

Said boost will be in effect until Frostfell dissappears with the next LU, yes?

And speaking of that, has everyone had enough of Frostfell yet? I have! (even though I enjoyed it a whole bunch, one can only make so many fireplaces, dresses and candy cane weapons before completely burning out!)
#5 Jan 12 2007 at 1:34 PM Rating: Decent
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I have no official confirmation, but it would seem that the following two changes were made in the EoF patch:

1) Combat XP converts to AAXP at level 70 at a much, much slower pace.
2) Quest reward AAXP is far greater in all cases than pre-EoF

I wouldn’t think it out of line to guess they did this to prevent people from easily grinding to 100 AAs off of killing mobs alone, and also to encourage the hardcore “grind grind grind” people to actually get out and quest for a change.
#6 Jan 13 2007 at 8:41 AM Rating: Good
Actually, I felt a change with my monk too. I finished a lvl 60 green quest but got over 6% of axp, which was very odd as normally there is no axp for green quests so that would have been only for the converted xp for that quest.

And yes, killing heroics five levels lower than me gets me very little axp, so that is a very good incentive to keep questing to get my AA's. They were quite successful there I'ld say.

#7 Jan 14 2007 at 6:39 AM Rating: Good
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Zieveraar wrote:
Actually, I felt a change with my monk too. I finished a lvl 60 green quest but got over 6% of axp, which was very odd as normally there is no axp for green quests so that would have been only for the converted xp for that quest.

And yes, killing heroics five levels lower than me gets me very little axp, so that is a very good incentive to keep questing to get my AA's. They were quite successful there I'ld say.


Well I have been playing my Berserker. I had not played my zerker since EoF came out since I was busy raiding. Let me just say that my zerker has leveled up entirely on questing in Antonica and TS and I was lvl 33 with only 4 AA's earned from questing.

I took my zerker out and did the quests in EL and Zek on Thurs, Friday and Saturday and went all the way to 17 AA's earned. My Assassin when I had him to lvl 70 barely had 30 AA's. Not that I am complaining but it just seemed like that the AA experience earned post-eof from turning in Green and Blue quests is much larger than it was pre-eof.

Oh btw Zerker with Double Attack maxed out is just great.
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#8 Jan 14 2007 at 2:17 PM Rating: Decent
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I took my zerker out and did the quests in EL and Zek on Thurs, Friday and Saturday and went all the way to 17 AA's earned. My Assassin when I had him to lvl 70 barely had 30 AA's. Not that I am complaining but it just seemed like that the AA experience earned post-eof from turning in Green and Blue quests is much larger than it was pre-eof.


Doing the betrayal quests, all of them are white. I've gotten two AA points of it so far, and I've still about 70.000 points to get and therefore lots of quests to do before I'm citizen of Freeport.

White quests at 70 are really amazing, they give me 20% on average of Axp.

And all the mobs scale too, so I'm fighting lvl 69-71 mobs. (some heroic, those quests are rather tough)

My low lvl Berserker already has 6 AA points at lvl 16. And only slightly twinked with collection quests, it's amazing how easy you get a new level when you turn in a lvl 70 collection at lvl 12 Smiley: smile

All in all, I'ld say it's quite a good improvement!


#9 Jan 14 2007 at 4:03 PM Rating: Good
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I seem to gain AAs really fast.

My 35 defiler has 24 and I really haven't run into a slow down yet.
#10 Jan 15 2007 at 8:43 AM Rating: Decent
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As to the green quests giving AAXP, that was changed not long ago.

They made it so that quests grey out at the same point mobs do (10 levels) and that AAXP is earned for any quest that isn’t grey.
#11 Jan 15 2007 at 8:48 AM Rating: Decent
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They made it so that quests grey out at the same point mobs do (10 levels) and that AAXP is earned for any quest that isn’t grey.


I was wondering about that change. Made me question my memory actually, it used to be like this when the game was released (without the AA ofcourse), quest greying out and no longer giving any xp when it does. Then they changed it to no more grey quests and green giving trivial xp.

Back to grey quests then, could be worse.

#12 Jan 15 2007 at 3:02 PM Rating: Decent
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Are you able to gain AA points for killing named mobs that are grey?
#13 Jan 15 2007 at 10:56 PM Rating: Decent
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No

Have to be green or better.
#14 Jan 16 2007 at 10:04 AM Rating: Decent
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What's an "AA"?
#15 Jan 16 2007 at 10:14 AM Rating: Excellent
Lydiaele wrote:
What's an "AA"?


An "Alternate Advancement" point. Hold-over term from EQ1 that stands for secondary stats and abilities earned via experience outside of your standard "level-up". I think they call them "Ability points" in EQ2, but AA has stuck as the popular term for them. "AAXP" would of course be earned experience that is applied to the accrument of AA.

Edit - Clarification.

Edited, Jan 16th 2007 1:09pm by Stugein
#16 Jan 16 2007 at 10:39 AM Rating: Good
Uh oh! Here we go again...

Dear Stugein, Lydiaele knows what an AA point is... and what an AP is... but several months ago, she led the charge to get folks here to "properly" identify their AA/AP point questions/responses.

I fear that the crusade will now be resurrected anew...

Personally, I think the tomato/tomato debate is fruitless :)

Does it really matter if off brand facial tissues are called "Kleenex" or if all digital video recorders are referred to as TIVOs? I think not... but if some here do, then let the debate resume... /sigh
#17 Jan 16 2007 at 10:49 AM Rating: Good
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Hehehehehehehehe. Glee! Dance puppets!

Not to worry I won't debate. I know it's futile, and I know I'm right and everyone else is wrong. ;) I just like to point out the discrepancy now and then, here and there. If a big flame war debate starts I'll be very surprised and I'll never say anything again.

It's a pet peeve. Like the Thexians in my head (Ignore those doctors, I always do).
#18 Jan 16 2007 at 11:01 AM Rating: Excellent
Ooooooh. Ok, I get it. Silly me thinking someone honestly didn't know. The amount of knowledgeable EQ2 players who never played EQ1 and just aren't down with all of the holdovers and slang is surprising and I thought you were just one of them. None on me.

Edited, Jan 16th 2007 2:06pm by Stugein
#19 Jan 16 2007 at 7:16 PM Rating: Decent
Since the subject is about AA's, I have a question.

I played a Shadow Knight to lvl 30 when all I had was the original EQ2. I bought the EoF expansion and now I find I've been pretty much jipped out of 20 lvls of AA points.

Question: If I do lvl 30 quests and mentor down to lvl 10 before I complete them will I get more AA points? Wondering if I can catch up to my zerker's AA. I've got around 19 or 20 AA points with my 32 Zerker.
#20 Jan 17 2007 at 9:36 AM Rating: Decent
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Since the subject is about AA's, I have a question.

I played a Shadow Knight to lvl 30 when all I had was the original EQ2. I bought the EoF expansion and now I find I've been pretty much jipped out of 20 lvls of AA points.

Question: If I do lvl 30 quests and mentor down to lvl 10 before I complete them will I get more AA points? Wondering if I can catch up to my zerker's AA. I've got around 19 or 20 AA points with my 32 Zerker.


No, I doubt that sincerely. I believe that you will get perhaps even fewer xp, mentoring does alter gained xp. (but no idea if that also influences quest xp)

One bit of luck, at least you should get updates for all the discovery points you already discovered all over again.
#21 Jan 17 2007 at 11:11 AM Rating: Decent
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Mentored XP rates deal with combat XP, not discover or quest XP, and not AAXP from questing, discovery or named mob kills.

So to answer your question, you can get AAXP from any quest that would normally give AAXP so long as you mentor down to make it at least green first.

Mentoring to make it red does, however, seem to provide more AAXP than when it’s green.

And yes, I am absolutely sure it works this way. I wiped out the BB and SF quest lines on my 70 Guardian and mentored to 20 to turn them in last week. Got two AAs and change out of a day of solo grey questing.
#22 Jan 17 2007 at 12:35 PM Rating: Decent
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And yes, I am absolutely sure it works this way. I wiped out the BB and SF quest lines on my 70 Guardian and mentored to 20 to turn them in last week. Got two AAs and change out of a day of solo grey questing.


Thanks for the info! Another thing to try out in Freeport then.
#23 Jan 18 2007 at 9:48 AM Rating: Decent
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That sounds like it's going to change, it smacks of exploit. (For lack of a better word... I'm not saying anyone should be banned.)
#24 Jan 18 2007 at 9:54 AM Rating: Decent
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It’s not. It’s totally by design. Being able to do it was in the original release notes regarding AAs and how to earn them.
#25 Jan 18 2007 at 3:04 PM Rating: Decent
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Let me see if I have this straight. You do a level 20+ quest, mentor down to level 20 for the turn in only, and get extra exp? That can't be by design, it's just free experience.
#26 Jan 18 2007 at 3:54 PM Rating: Decent
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Let me see if I have this straight. You do a level 20+ quest, mentor down to level 20 for the turn in only, and get extra exp? That can't be by design, it's just free experience.


Well, not xp, just the AA xp.

And it's not really extra xp, just the xp you would have gotten if you were that lvl to begin with.
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