EQII vs WoWFollow

Hmm what i liked with wow is i could get to 60 even tho i had 5 hour of playtime per week at most.
The game is pretty much repeating the same narrow content over and over again once you reach 55-60 if you dont have the time to raid so it became extremely boring. Also the community is very bad, its like a giant kindergarden and peopel fear to join pickup group because the game is so easy that incompetent dont have to get better to succeed.

To you it comes to 10 level of new content, and probably another 2 years of waiting for the next expansion.

On the other side, you have 70 level of new content and plenty of other things to achieve if you get to the limit, like housing, and heritage quest etc.

I dont see why you couldnt do one after the other. In that case id go wow first then EQ2.

In anycase, if you want a feel of eq2, there is a free demo at www.everquest2.com

The thing I HATED about wow was it was all equip based. You will always have to have good equip but in eq2, its not a little less important than your skill. the better you are at your job, the better you will do. Another big thing I love about eq2: NO LOOKALIKES. How many people have you seen in wow that look EXACTLY like YOU?! I met, and recorded, 17 people with the exact same char model as me. 17. Those are just the ones I noticed. yeah, about the tradeskills in "eq2 v. wow", eq2 is better by far. people in the 70's wear crafted Items in EQ2, not to mention its a lot ore involved and rewarding. As for pvp, wow was better IMHO, I loved it. But it also stinks when gear, in a lot of situations, is all that counts. Now, the graphics dont look monochromatic to me at ALL in eq2, its very beautifully done and very diverse. I love how it looks, especially with the moon in the sky (the shattered luclin).


my overall thoughts equate to this:
WoW has many positive qualities, but is not in depth enough, or mature enough, for many adult players. Eq2 has that depth and maturity.

Hi there

I played first EQ for 2 or 3 years. Loved it, was my first MMORPG. But damn it was a hard game to play.

Then played WOW for 1 year now (still playing). Loved the UI, the graphic, the french translation (compared to EQ translation which is hell).

Now coming back slowly to EQ2 (trial). I'm loving it. Too bad EQ2 needs a really really big machine to have good graphics, otherwise the game isn't as beautiful.

Anyway, seems EQ2 has greatly involved since it first came out, and I'm really sure it will be much more roleplay oriented than WOW (which was fun too, but how many childish behavior did I meet there ? tooo much).

WOW is OK if you have a small machien and not so much time to spend. But be prepared to get to lvl 60 in less than 20 days of timeplay.

EQ2, I guess, is OK if you have the machine and the time to handle this.

Remember all those features in FFXI that were neat in concept but were turned into such massive timesinks that they killed the game? Imagine them done right. I guess that is the best way to sum it up.

-Epic Quest lines at end game that actually have a story. Quests that aren't impossible to do, but are still challenging. Quests that give loot on par with raid gear.

-Alternate Advancement. Doing quests, discovering new locales, beating named monsters all give Achievement XP. You level achievement and earn points which can be used to increase character abilities, much like Talent Points in WoW (Kind of). Currently their are over 100 levels of Achievement a player can earn.

- Spells/Combat arts. Much like FFXI you have to buy spells. When you level you earn base spells, but can buy/farm upgrades. For example lvl 70 spell at Apprentice 1 may only do 'x' amount of damage, at Master it does 'x+500' damage. At first I was worried about this, but it is a great way to increase characters without pushing the level cap up.

-Crafting. EQ2 crafting just beats WoW. You level crafting. Each item you create gives xp, as you level up you get new recipes. Their are 70 levels of crafting. If you are a crafting nut this is the game for you. If you dont like crafting you can skip it but it is nice to know its their.

-Raids. Two expansions worth of lvl 70 raid content. Such a breathe of freshs air after WoW.

There is more but you get the jist, there is just much more in the way of advancing and fleshing out your character once you reach the level cap. I feel like I actually have a character rather than just another Shaman, Lock or Pally.


I had played MMO's for years and thought WoW was fast, I mean a game of AB has you mashing buttons like a ****. However compared to the amount of work I have to do in a EQ2 raid environment it seems like WoW is slooow.

First off I can use combat arts while I am moving. If you are using a timed melee in wow and move it stops. I could never go back to that. Next I just plain have more moves to do. As an assassin I have 4 backstab moves, 2 deaggros, a hate transfer spell, 3 dots, a stun, 4 ranged attacks, 2 aoes, a poison debuff, def/mit debuff, and a number of other moves. It puts a rogues to shame. Crazy amount of button mashing, add jousting, and group interaction and it is a blast. Group encounters are much more entertaining. Tanks have better group aggro spells so you can find yourself doing multiple mobs at once which gets the heart pounding as well.

As for PvP. Well eq2 pvp is a little more intense. Killing other players gives you XP and Status. So you could hunt people for levels. Also you any money the person has on them drops (you can place money in bank in town so you dont have to worry about going broke). Their is a problem come end game raiding in that it is harder to raid when you only have good/evil type classes, compared to PvE where you can use both.

Oh and here is a vid, not the greatest but if you look you can see how the guy is mashing his buttons during pvp.

Thanks for the answers Bodhi :)

I haven't gotten to end game on EQ2 but I will say this: If the lower end/medium zones are a hint of what is to come, It will take me forever to even complete 1/3rd of the content. I went to 22 in Antonica before I even discovered HALF of it. I spent 10 levels in a zone and only uncovered about 48-52% of it, I havn't even dreamed of doing the all the quests. I did however get to end game wow and sit around allot. It was pretty boring and backing up what Bohdi said: slow. It was easier, and much better for the PvP (hands down, especially with arena now.). But yet again, an MMO is not just the game, it's the people. There where some nice people in wow, especially on my RP server but it wasn't in depth enough for ME. You might be different, if your looking for a casual game stick to wow, get some rl friends and do PvP and get ranks in Arena. (which is fun as hell IMO).


Sub-Reply to Bhodi: Nice movie, the song is "Liberi Fatali" is the Latin choral opening to the Square Co., Ltd. computer role-playing game Final Fantasy VIII. It was composed by Nobuo Uematsu, and is considered one of his masterpieces. It was arranged by Shiro Hamaguchi, and the lyrics were written by Kazushige Nojima and Taro ********** It is also notable for being fully orchestrated, unlike most video game music at the time. This was in fact the first time Square had used a fully orchestral piece in one of its games.

Liberi Fatali translates to "Fated Children." However, it is worth noting that the line Fithos lusec wecos vinosec is actually an anagram of "succession of witches" and "love." "Fated Children" also likely refers to the main characters of the game.

Furthermore, the written words at the beginning foreshadow an important conversation between the two main characters, Squall Leonhart and Rinoa Heartilly – though only the lines, "Why?" and "For what?" are actually Rinoa's.

Edited, Jan 9th 2007 11:57pm by spoonofthebeast

I currently play both, and have been in both since they launched, have branched of my guild in both, but have put significantly more time into EQ2.

There are lots of good things about both, but from my personal perspective, let me start with my biggest complaint about EQ2.

Racial identity is basically non-existent in EQ2. There are only three cities (were only two until Faydwer launched), and many different races can start in each of them. There is no “This is *my* city” feeling like you get in WoW. The two original cities are both built by humans, and have a typical human feel to them. Even the racial districts generally look the same with only a few touches to attempt a token “racial” appearance. Probably the only one with a major race specific look and feel is Baubleshire, the district of Qeynos where the Halfling and Gnome population lives. It looks like a little slice of stereotypical “house built into a grassy mound” community that would make Bilbo and Frodo proud.

All races can be any class, even the “good” or “evil” races, which can defect to the other faction to become a class only available to that faction. The Fae, though they currently can not defect, will be able to in a few months when they implement their special defection quest.

Racial abilities, aside from the Fae’s ability to float to the ground rather than fall to their deaths, are often shared with other races and offer no uniqueness. There’s no War Stomp, Will of the Forsaken, or similarly extraordinary reason to pick one race over another. It’s purely esthetic, and by the end game, not even the starting stats play any factor in your racial choice.

I hold out hope that racial cities will return to Norrath at some point in EQ2, but for now, the only thing close is Kelethin, but even that is shared between several races and is not exclusively the realm of the Fae.

I guess my other complaint would be that there is no way to “flag up” in EQ2 unless you’re on a PvP server. People can walk into your city and slaughter your guards, but there’s nothing you can do about it. I think I might actually care more about the cities if they would get attacked and I could defend them. As is, they’re just a place to sell, buy, bank, craft and camp.


Aside from that, though, I prefer EQ2. The lore is far more in depth, well thought out, and covers multiple MMOs (though the Devs have stated that not all from the PS2 MMO EQoA is canonical). Of course, unless you played EQ1, there are going to be a lot of inside jokes and nostalgic nods to the old game that you won’t get. The same can be said for WoW, though, where people who didn’t play the RTS games go in largely ignorant of the lore.

Combat, in my opinion, is much more fun in EQ2 because you have so many more options with your characters. True, it’s usually not until 40th level or so that you really see your full compliment of spells and combat arts, but once you’re there it’s amazing how many hotbars you need to store them all at the ready.

Of course the graphics are vastly superior in EQ2 in terms of resolution, lighting, texture quality, and polygon count. The down side to this, though, is that you really need a hulk of a machine to make EQ2 look its best. If you have the horsepower though, EQ2 even outshines most single player games in terms of graphical quality.

You’ll hear a lot of people bash EQ2’s customer support, but I personally have never had a bad experience with them. Just be polite and well spoken. You’ll get good service in return.

Hmm… what else. How about content? EQ2 has had three expansion, three adventure packs (low cost, mini expansions), and many, many free instance zones and quest chains added since launch. The most recent expansion was itself nearly the size of the original release. If you crave a lot of new stuff on a pretty regular basis, you’ll like EQ2 a lot more than WoW.

Of course, if you want PvP, forget it... stick with WoW. WoW is the king of PvP, hands down, no room for debate. <nod>

Sigh, about two more months before it is released here [:sad:]

Can't wait, after having to wait for so very long.

FF II, was that the one re-released as FF VI later on? They changed some numbers, that I know. That one I liked a lot too, but the VII is still the best imo. The IX was indeed not very good, and not merely for the tail. Hardly any story, nor a very good one, and the game was played in about 40 hours or less, all of it. That would hardly cover a quarter of any other FF game.

I've played only 3 mmorpg, eq2 is currently the most solid i've seen out of matching what I want in one (other than bland landscapes and FPS issues regardless of hardware).

Actually, I'ld say that this is quite logical. Only two cities remained after the Cataclysm, it is logical that they would only show clear signs of the races that lived there before. Especially Freeport would be logical as a brutal tyrant will not allow any sort of free spirit.

It's all down to personal opinion and I happen to disagree with you. The problem with using willow wood as a "racial" home is that its basically a refugee camp. Now that Gfay is back, you can go to the original WE home and see their heritage and decide that it is indeed elven/fae. Now, I believe that the ogre home resembles oggok if I recall correctly (correct me if I'm wrong). As for identity, you should play on a RP server if thats what you seek, you'll meet allot of like minded people in that department.

/edit: I see you play i the RP server (overlooked it) so your complaint is valid untill SoE does something :P.

Edited, Jan 12th 2007 5:09am by spoonofthebeast