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#1 Dec 23 2006 at 4:49 PM Rating: Default
Why do I hate Allakhazam so much???

It is entirely possible there may be nothing really wrong with Allakhazam as such, but I was perfectly happy with Ogaming!!! I knew how to navigate it, my main character was my name, my questions was answered rapidly, the server was quick!
All of the above does NOT apply to Allackazhlam.

I have spent 2 hours trying to figger this site, and this is my first (and, judging by the content, maybe the last) post on the forums.
I hate Allazhkahms for destroying ogaming!!
I hate having to dodge commercials like a freakshow to get to the info I need POSTED FOR NO PROFIT BY PLAYERS WANTING TO HELP OTHERS!!!!!!!!!!

I've always thought of ogaming as a free-spirited community, relying solely on information volunteered by members of this community, needing only a very few commercials to fund the upkeep of the site.
Allazakham seems to me more like Yoko Ono. (Feeding off the rancid blood of the cowardly slain ogaming Kate Monster.)

AFAIK I have to make 15 posts to be eligible for judgment by my peers, so I'm severely tempted to make 14 more with nonsense just to see what others think of my opinions stated in this post.
#2 Dec 23 2006 at 6:39 PM Rating: Decent
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14 more posts like this or of even lower quality will get you rated to sub-default quicker than you can imagine I'd wager and after that we wont be seeing you on this name so this post will vanish.Just saying,give Alla some time it will all work out.
#3 Dec 23 2006 at 6:56 PM Rating: Default
I'm starting to get the feeling that only Allashahickna-lovers are generally able to rate others here, so you're prolly right.
It doesn't much matter since my login name ATM is a high number in the names I had to ask for to finally be able to post at all.
If the admin's really decide to answer my posts in a serious manner, I will probably be changing my signature, (I hate I hate I hate Allakhazam!!) but right now it is the only appropriate statement I can think of.
#4 Dec 25 2006 at 4:55 PM Rating: Default
Heh, now it seems I'm unable to wiew my own thread, due to my filter settings. Very funny.
Can anyone tell me how to change the filter settings? (Yeah, and now I even changed my signature, don't tell me I'm not fair)
#5 Dec 26 2006 at 9:04 AM Rating: Decent
I must admit I like the way the forums work on Allah. All exept for the Karma system which effectively excludes any critics of Allah, but nevermind that.
It's pretty easy for me to find my own posting history and gain an overwiew on new replies and ratings.

Looking back at things, I think the real mistake was made when clicking on our old Ogaming links led us directly to Allah. (No pun actually intended here)

If people like me had been told Ogaming had been shutdown or bought out or destroyed in some other way, but now Allah was trying to rebuild the info Ogaming style, I would definately not have responded so negatively!

I'm all for looking forward and making the best of the future, and thinking back thoroughly enough, I remember the Ogaming server was also down once in a while, so the server stability wasn't perfect before the takeover. Allah must likewise be allowed some leeway.
#6 Dec 26 2006 at 12:03 PM Rating: Excellent
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You need to understand we made this announcement over 6 months ago and then again a week before we moved to Allakhazam. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the website. If you don't like it, we're sorry, we want to make it better for you. However, saying that you weren't told this was happening doesn't get you many, well that's just not true.
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#7 Dec 29 2006 at 12:00 PM Rating: Decent
Thx for paying attention to my post. :)

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If people like me had been told Ogaming had been shutdown or bought out or destroyed in some other way, but now Allah was trying to rebuild the info Ogaming style, I would definately not have responded so negatively!


Lemme try to explain: I'm not complaining there was no warning. (Which I probably wouldn't have noticed even 6 years in advance) I am saying that instead of a redirect, I would have chosen an error message or the likes suggesting a visit to Allah who was trying to carry on the legacy of Ogaming.


I'm doing my best to keep an open mind now.
#8 Jan 03 2007 at 6:02 AM Rating: Decent
Since I first made this thread, and since my previous post in it, I've noticed that in the public and guild chat windows, my wiews on Allakhazam are significantly more positive than most other players.
I've seen a lot of replies (by admin's and the likes) asking for a more constructive line of criticism and more effort to get Allakhazam's standard's raised by posting more of the guidelines we miss from Ogaming.
But most of the players I talk to ingame, have already given up and stopped visiting Allakhazam, and I fear this way the standard will never rise.
Many people have tried making an account and posted some critisism here, but immediately get slapped with the Karma stick and leave.

I think if there should be any chance of real development on this site, some of you guys have to stop whacking critics of Allakhazam as such. But that's just my humble opinion. ;)
#9 Jan 03 2007 at 6:42 AM Rating: Excellent
The karma/rating system here is pretty sad, and those few who wave it around like a caretaker admonishing a child just look silly. Sadly there's no getting around the unfortunate forum software here. At least not for now.

Maybe it's different servers or perhaps different circles of players that we interact with, but I have yet to see one person in-game railing against the merger. The "outcry" such as it was, has been limited, in my view, to a dozen or so vocal dissenters here on the boards. The in-game player community has been largely silent on the matter.

The databse is updating rapidly and has been more consistent with it's updates than even pre-merger. The players are responding and the amazing OGaming DB community has kicked back into gear. Just looking at the main page you can see the daily database entry updates which can number in the 2 or 3 dozen daily which, considering the manual formatting and QA that goes with each entry, is no small accomplishment. Coupled with the improvements that the administrators of the site have made based on user feedback (comments, sortable search, improved result layout, and more), I'm just not seeing the lack of improvement that the scenario you are alluding to provides.
#10 Jan 03 2007 at 7:27 AM Rating: Decent
OK, I'm really glad to hear there's a positive mood on other servers. I play the Everfrost server and have yet to see an overall positive remark about Allakhazam on any of the public channels.
I'm not even sure I would dare making an outright positive comment, but I'd love to see somebody try. (j/k)

Seriously, if I see 1% of the cumulative comments given on all hours of the day, it would be a high percentage, I know. But I HAVE seen more than 100 remarks about Allakhazam, and they were all negative in some way, so my conclusion is a lot of us on Everfrost miss Ogaming.

I am currently trying to tell people it will be better if we get used to Allakhazam's systems and do our best to post quest info, but I can never defend the karma system.

Oh, and BTW: It's good to see my karma has yet to drop so far off the scale nobody can read my posts. ;)
#11 Jan 03 2007 at 8:13 AM Rating: Good
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We are all working vigorously to lower your karma...lol jk.


We'll I'm was a die-hard (ex)ogaming poster, and was a big fan of the regulars and format there. But honestly, the server here is faster...the regulars seem nice as well, and the DB is the same. I will miss some of the old regulars if they don't make the transition, but hopefully more will (or great new people come along) once they start to hear that it's not so bad afterall :)



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#12 Jan 03 2007 at 10:15 AM Rating: Good
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Last year Allah forum users (WoW/FXII) went ape-crazy after the zam.com merger announcement was made. Forum users took sides and flamed each other and it was pretty ugly for a while. The Ogaming merger has revived this very dead horse and now we are forced to rehash all the events leading up this point. I view the angry Ogaming user flame threads as aftershocks of that event.

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I think Allakhazam Defender of Justice handled this merger poorly. He's the top dog and the only one who can clear up the misconceptions and distortions about the mega merger.

The redirect from Ogaming to here was too abrupt. Replace the Ogaming redirect with a single front page at the old domain address and explain why Ogaming has been merged and provide a link to this address.

Ogaming users feel like they are being jerked around and they don't like it.






Edited, Jan 3rd 2007 10:36am by Trappin
#13 Jan 03 2007 at 10:23 AM Rating: Decent
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Im so glad we have peace and unity on these boards...
#14 Jan 03 2007 at 3:29 PM Rating: Decent
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Quoting bodhisattva

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DING DING DING

A parent corporation came in and bought Thotbot, Ogaming L2Orpheus and number of other smaller gaming sites. They then came along and offered to buy out Allakhazam LLC off its co-owners, Allakhazam and Illia.

Allakhazam agreed as long as the new gaming supersite (zam.com) remained RMT free. The parent corporation retained Allakhazam to run the site, they decided to merge all the various gaming sites into one under the Zam.com brand name since it has the most recognition.

So in the end it was actually the company that owned Ogaming that bought out Allakhazam.



I am not very sure why everyone end up hating allakazham, because he agreed to sell his domain ?
Or is zam.com just a diminutive of allakhazam, or maybe its just a coincidence that they both end up with zam and people just need to direct their hate somewhere online since irl no one listen to them ?
Someone please clear things up
#15 Jan 03 2007 at 3:49 PM Rating: Good
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It is a snarled mess.

1) People are upset because ogaming was incorporated into Allakhazam. They feel that Allakhazam bought them out and ruined ogaming. When in fact it was the people that owned Ogaming that bought out Allakhazam.

2) People are scared of some RMT connection seeing as how the people that now own Allakhazam (and who previously owned ogaming) also own IGE. However Allakhazam had it written into the contract (the man is a lawyer in real life after all) that Zam.com will remain RMT free and be completely autonomous of IGE and any IGE profits and vice a versa.

3) The premium question. Some people are worried that the Allakhazam EQ2 site will become premium only. Despite the fact that the admins have promised this wont happen and also the fact that all other MMO Zam sites are free to use and have been for years now.

There are also a number of people who are having a hard time adjusting to the allakhazam set up as well. However once you get the hang of it it is pretty intuitive.
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#16 Jan 03 2007 at 4:03 PM Rating: Decent
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I am just curous, where do they make their money, i see no adds anywhere, cant be that many premium member to make it all worth it.
#17 Jan 03 2007 at 4:13 PM Rating: Excellent
PrometeusVaer wrote:
I am just curous, where do they make their money, i see no adds anywhere, cant be that many premium member to make it all worth it.


There is an ad server, the ads have just been removed from the site temporarily. Hopefully they are being reworked so that they are less invasive than they were before.
#18 Jan 04 2007 at 7:21 AM Rating: Decent
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We really need a sticky FAQ regarding the Alla merger for two reasons.

First to ward off the misinformation and rumors the OP posted (e.g. Alla bought OGaming, pop-up ads, you have to pay to see info).

Second, to let people know the PTB here have been and are working to make everyone happy with upgrades, additions and improvements.
#19 Jan 04 2007 at 7:26 AM Rating: Good
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Advertising revenue, the site gets more hits than any three other sites combined.

Premium revenue.

Allakhazams black market asian baby smuggling ring.

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#20 Jan 04 2007 at 7:47 AM Rating: Excellent
bodhisattva wrote:

Allakhazams black market asian baby smuggling ring.


Unfortunately Alla stinks at keeping a low profile.
#21 Jan 04 2007 at 12:14 PM Rating: Default
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Here I have to say that most of the Quests and such like items from the beginning like City stuff and even Robes are not even in the database, but they were in OGaming, if all the info I say were true people would not post flaming posts; just as an example, I was looking for items on Ogaming and I found them even old ones or brand new items such as Robes and weapons or such. Here NO WAY I will even be able to look them up the database is 2 years old and was never updated.ITems like an old quest called Blood of the Brood.. is not there or the items or walkthrough is non excisting. However, if you see that some of the posts were taken over from Ogaming well I have to say that is true, on the other hand the fact is that hardcore posters like on OGaming left and therefor, this site will die when it comes to new updates. I miss Ogaming more then everybody else it was a cool site and it will never be the same. Money talks and thats the fact. As it is the fact that even if they claim that they will never charge you it will happen sooner or later when the fees come to a point where they have to charge you. The good point is people will leave and find something else and they will spawn the word ... therefor I am not afraid of such problems gaming people will always find a way to comunicate without having to pay or doing what a persons wants them to do. I just hope this site (after almost 4 years knowning it) will change to become something better then it was in the past.

Heads up guys and lets kick this mule to make it run
#22 Jan 04 2007 at 3:19 PM Rating: Good
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If you ever plan on getting aboard NapFloridian and help the site get better, heres a tipe for using quoting. You need to put the message between the quotes:[qu0te]*Here*[/qu0te]

Changed the o for 0 so that way it didnt actually quoted *Here*.

Also:
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Heads up guys and lets kick this mule to make it run

Might be a better signature than:
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One thing you CAN't Recicle....is waste of time... Allakhazam is such a waste.


A real waste of time is concentrating on the problem instead of the possible solutions.
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