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Race/Class with most HP/levelFollow

#1 Sep 01 2006 at 11:10 AM Rating: Decent
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Pretty self explanitory. I was wondering what race and class would result in the most HP per level all the way up.

My guess is Troll/Bruiser, but honestly I have not played in awhile so I'm unsure.

Any help is appreciated.
#2 Sep 01 2006 at 11:36 AM Rating: Good
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race has little if nothing to really do with the end game outcome when it comes to HP. Tanks will ultimately have the highest amount of HP since they are the ones who are supposed to take damage for the team. You wont dish out as much DPS as a scout would though, but thats not the tanks job. Also HP will depend on the gear you have. Keep it updated and you will be right on par. Bruisers/Monks are the two tank classes that take damage by avoiding being hit more often than a guardian or berserker. So many times they dont get hit, but when they do they tend to take a lot of damage. Guardians, SK, beserkers, etc take damage more evenly. Also mitigation will be a big factor in how well you take damage.
#3 Sep 01 2006 at 12:02 PM Rating: Good
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Stamina determines how much health you have. The more you boost it, the more you will have.

Fighters get the added bonus of having better armor to protect them, hence they can take a beating longer.
#4 Sep 01 2006 at 12:47 PM Rating: Decent
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Monk avoidance is streaky, as in RNG streaky. Sometimes my Monk can tank 3 hard mobs and barely need any healing and then-> BAM .. bad RNG checks and i'm a mana sponge. Loads of fun.
#5 Sep 01 2006 at 1:32 PM Rating: Good
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With Monk avoidance you need to make sure you use Tsunami when tanking, best to be in defensive stance, and when needed use Mountain stance. I rarely have problems when raiding so long as I use my tools and have healers doing their job. Also helps to make sure you have high Mit, STA, and AGI
#6 Sep 01 2006 at 1:38 PM Rating: Decent
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Monk avoidance is streaky, as in RNG streaky. Sometimes my Monk can tank 3 hard mobs and barely need any healing and then-> BAM .. bad RNG checks and i'm a mana sponge. Loads of fun.


Yeah, that always amazes me, fighting the same mob twice, no problems the first time and almost dying the second time.

I tried to fight the epic skeleton (lvl 27, about the biggest undercon I've found so far, even Everling didn't give me this much trouble) for the manastone heritage quest in Cove of Decay a couple of days ago, had my heal and a bandage from a quest in the TT area (gathering liferoot) and almost made it, a couple of seconds more and I would have been able to use my heal again and kill it off.

So I decide to try again, with fresh bandages (about 1000 heal, very swift reuse time so very handy), same heal and an extra healing potion, also the 400 extra HP from that spear of the sentry item from the world event. I died two minutes faster, barely dented it.

It just feels so random.

Tsunami is great, but only lasts 9 seconds. Still: Tsunami, Crane Flock (achievement ability, 16 seconds of double attacks on four enemies at the same time) and the ward to prevent magic damage. Almost full protection and a heck of a lot of fast damage.


#7 Sep 01 2006 at 2:50 PM Rating: Decent
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So all tank classes receive equal HP per level up all the way through the game?
#8 Sep 01 2006 at 3:30 PM Rating: Good
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not sure but it wouldnt really matter anyways. If you play a tank class that wears plate, your stats are going to be higher in STA, thus HO. If you wear leather, most likely you will have higher AGI, thus higher avoidance of actually getting hit in the first place.


Have you looked up and done any research on any of these classes? http://everquest2.station.sony.com/en/ can help you get a feel for all the classes you can play and what they're good at
#9 Sep 01 2006 at 4:44 PM Rating: Decent
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I guess it helps to mention that my monk is 38, i'm not speaking from end game raiding experience - just noting how, at my level, buffed with face the mountain and in defensive stance my monk gets bad rolls once in a while. I'm not complaining, my gaming buddy plays a fury and he's lightning fast on the heals.
#10 Sep 01 2006 at 5:23 PM Rating: Good
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If ever a two pair were oerfect for each other, the Monk/Bruiser and Fury/Warden combo was the best. The druids are the fastest at quick heals, which is great since when brawlers do get hit they can go down faster. Brawlers are all about the avoidance.
#11 Sep 01 2006 at 7:42 PM Rating: Decent
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I've been looking for a ratio of HP added per level per class, but never found anything. I've looked at the classes and Ive tried them all over the years ^^.

I wanted to make a character with the highest HP ratio then concentrate on things that add HP to that.

I was sure somone might know this around here, but I suppose not. Thanks for the replies.
#12 Sep 02 2006 at 12:19 AM Rating: Decent
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At the beginng of the game, pick a Guardian (race doesn't matter) and start with all your points in stamina. After that, buy nothing but stamina increasing items and, when you get to level 20, go through the stamina skill set. You will be guaranteed to have the most hit points. However, you will also have the biggest waste of a tank class in the game. Sure, you'll have a sh*t ton of hit points, but you won't be able to dodge/riposte thanks to 0 agility. Your mana pool will suck thanks to 0 int/wis. You will probably NEVER score a critical hit and you will be completey useless in an end game raid or even a low level group trying to take on tough mobs. Good luck with that!

Smiley: oyvey
#13 Sep 02 2006 at 9:10 AM Rating: Decent
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There are lots of number crunchers and parsers who post on the SOE boards - nose around on the forums there and let us know what you find out.
#14 Sep 02 2006 at 4:51 PM Rating: Decent
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Mearyk wrote:
At the beginng of the game, pick a Guardian (race doesn't matter) and start with all your points in stamina. After that, buy nothing but stamina increasing items and, when you get to level 20, go through the stamina skill set. You will be guaranteed to have the most hit points. However, you will also have the biggest waste of a tank class in the game. Sure, you'll have a sh*t ton of hit points, but you won't be able to dodge/riposte thanks to 0 agility. Your mana pool will suck thanks to 0 int/wis. You will probably NEVER score a critical hit and you will be completey useless in an end game raid or even a low level group trying to take on tough mobs. Good luck with that!

Smiley: oyvey


*pretends to care* lol

I come from FFXI (recently quit). I know all about this "optimal" crap all too well. Most people (not saying you, as I don't know you) but, most people who tend to be picky about aspects of their own character(or other peoples character) tend to see anything less than optimal being gimp. FFXI is currently swarming with people like this, which is a large part of the reason I left. It's not that I could not "cut it" in FFXI infact I am quite good at the game as I am quite capable at playing any game in a variety of ways and degrees of intensity.

The first part of your post was closest info to what I was looking for. thank you.

I will look over the EQ2players forums again, as well.

Edited, Sep 2nd 2006 at 6:12pm EDT by Smelly
#15 Sep 02 2006 at 10:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Smelly wrote:
Mearyk wrote:
At the beginng of the game, pick a Guardian (race doesn't matter) and start with all your points in stamina. After that, buy nothing but stamina increasing items and, when you get to level 20, go through the stamina skill set. You will be guaranteed to have the most hit points. However, you will also have the biggest waste of a tank class in the game. Sure, you'll have a sh*t ton of hit points, but you won't be able to dodge/riposte thanks to 0 agility. Your mana pool will suck thanks to 0 int/wis. You will probably NEVER score a critical hit and you will be completey useless in an end game raid or even a low level group trying to take on tough mobs. Good luck with that!

Smiley: oyvey


*pretends to care* lol

I come from FFXI (recently quit). I know all about this "optimal" crap all too well. Most people (not saying you, as I don't know you) but, most people who tend to be picky about aspects of their own character(or other peoples character) tend to see anything less than optimal being gimp. FFXI is currently swarming with people like this, which is a large part of the reason I left. It's not that I could not "cut it" in FFXI infact I am quite good at the game as I am quite capable at playing any game in a variety of ways and degrees of intensity.

The first part of your post was closest info to what I was looking for. thank you.

I will look over the EQ2players forums again, as well.

Edited, Sep 2nd 2006 at 6:12pm EDT by Smelly


Yea, sorry. I was kinda tired when I wrote that. I spoke from the heart though. Your attitude seemed to portray that of someone who really didn't care about their class or how to play it. The only thing on your mind was HP. If I'm wrong, please correct me. If I'm right, well...then I stand by my previous post.

Edited, Sep 2nd 2006 at 11:39pm EDT by Mearyk
#16 Sep 03 2006 at 12:08 AM Rating: Decent
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Hp is not important grasshopper! Lol i tank on my brigand alot...really fun to be able to out-tank some of the worse tanks :)
#17 Sep 05 2006 at 12:33 PM Rating: Decent
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I come from FFXI (recently quit). I know all about this "optimal" crap all too well. Most people (not saying you, as I don't know you) but, most people who tend to be picky about aspects of their own character(or other peoples character) tend to see anything less than optimal being gimp. FFXI is currently swarming with people like this, which is a large part of the reason I left. It's not that I could not "cut it" in FFXI infact I am quite good at the game as I am quite capable at playing any game in a variety of ways and degrees of intensity.


It's literally impossible to gimp yourself in this game. Unless you do something inimaginable like never upgrade your equipment or spells/combat arts. The racial/class choices you make along the way make a minimal impact.

You'll automatically get everything you need to play your class sucessfully, all you need to do is learn how to do so. As far as I have seen the vast majority other players have 'grokked' this about the game and don't look at anyone as inferior if they haven't min/maxxed their toon.

I'm speaking outside of raids. Unfortunately for everyone that's an entirely different game and the sort of elitism you describe may well go on there.
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