I am in a guild that I created,named,and have been managing since founding unfortunatly one of the members actually spoke to the NPC that creates guilds while I was zoning in. So he was classified as Guild Leader,He does nothing to help the guild progress, steals money out of the guild bank, and any usable items (prob to sell)is never on to help new members basicaly he is a just dead weight.
What option do I have to either take the guild over or remove him if any I am actually the guild leader for all intents and purposes can a GM help me with this problem.
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Im assuming you have talked with him and he refuses to give up GL?
We had a problem with a guild leader in wow. A clash of personalities and leadership styles (which has since resolved itself, much love Smogster). It boiled down to the guild vs guild leader. Basically what happened was that the guild left and formed a new guild and the entire guild sans the leader went over to the new guild. Turned out to be a fun event for the guild since we all gathered in one spot and joked around while doing it.
Really if he is stealing and being a deadweight there is no reason to go through the drama. Just make a clean break and restart you will thank yourself for doing it in the end.
Really if he is stealing and being a deadweight there is no reason to go through the drama. Just make a clean break and restart you will thank yourself for doing it in the end.
Bode - 100 Holy Paladin - Lightbringer
If you have the highest level of admin rights, you can change the settings, and should be able to demote him and restrict his access to the banks.
However, I agree with Bodhi, you should pick up the loyal members and inventory, head over to the guild-making NPC, and make a new guild. One thing worse than dead weight is a bad apple. It will always be there and cause continuing problems.
However, I agree with Bodhi, you should pick up the loyal members and inventory, head over to the guild-making NPC, and make a new guild. One thing worse than dead weight is a bad apple. It will always be there and cause continuing problems.
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Can he relinquish GL to me? and the reason I dont want to disband the guild is cause we have put alot of work into gaining status level. Also the name is a unique name that I would not want to lose because of an idiot.
The permissions can be changed, but the guild will always be registered in his name (one time setup). If you can successfully demote and boot him, then it will not matter who's name is on the pink slip.
Our guild' registered GL left some time ago, and the officers have full admin rights to all functions of the guild, keeping it a smooth running machine.
I understand the need to keep the status points thus gained. It takes a lot of effort and time, especially with a small guild. And since Heritage Quests cannot be redone, it makes leaving that much harder of a choice.
If you cannot demote him, it will be a tough decision to leave. In the long run, however, it will be good to start fresh and anew instead of suffering with daily angst.
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Edited, Aug 11th 2006 at 12:49pm EDT by TutanBriarpaw
Our guild' registered GL left some time ago, and the officers have full admin rights to all functions of the guild, keeping it a smooth running machine.
I understand the need to keep the status points thus gained. It takes a lot of effort and time, especially with a small guild. And since Heritage Quests cannot be redone, it makes leaving that much harder of a choice.
If you cannot demote him, it will be a tough decision to leave. In the long run, however, it will be good to start fresh and anew instead of suffering with daily angst.
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Edited, Aug 11th 2006 at 12:49pm EDT by TutanBriarpaw
Yes, he can, but judging by your previous post, it does not sound like he will. If you would be so inclined, can you please post the server you play on, your guild name, your character's name and his character's name. I would like to do some research.
You can fill a ticket for that. You will get a GM to get to you and you can explain your point. I'm not sure if they will really listen to you or not ; I myself have a very bad past with GM's that basically told me to mind my own business, but for your matter, I know of one guild on my server for whom they actually did something in a similar situation. You might get lucky, I think it might be worth a try, however I say it's worth a try if you want to get rid of that guy. No one likes deadweight, and if he is that bad, prolly more ppl will feel relief by his departure than you might think. Anyway, just saying, it IS an option and it DID work at least once, so you might want to consider that.
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You can fill a ticket for that. You will get a GM to get to you and you can explain your point. I'm not sure if they will really listen to you or not ; I myself have a very bad past with GM's that basically told me to mind my own business, but for your matter, I know of one guild on my server for whom they actually did something in a similar situation. You might get lucky, I think it might be worth a try, however I say it's worth a try if you want to get rid of that guy. No one likes deadweight, and if he is that bad, prolly more ppl will feel relief by his departure than you might think. Anyway, just saying, it IS an option and it DID work at least once, so you might want to consider that.
I wouldnt bother a GM with this since its more of a guild issue than gameplay/harrassment.
Bode - 100 Holy Paladin - Lightbringer
just echoing in on whats already been said. If you guys are on good terms you can ask him to promote you, or you may have access to demote him down the next step. If he's refusing, while it would be sad to lose those stats and guild name, if its tearing the guild apart, youre best bet is to regroup and restart. In the long run it would be worth it.
Like the others have said, so long as you also have the rank of "Guild Leader" in the guild menu (that purple crown thingy irrc) then you SHOULD be able to demote him to some other rank, and/or restrict his bank access (through rank restriction) so he can't do anything. I'm not 100% sure if you can demote the person who made the guild though... but, I do know a guild can have more then 1 person at the "leader" rank, so you should be able to just demote him if you are also the same rank as him.
If that doesn't work, try talking to him about it. Assuming he is willing, he can promote you to leader rank (if you aren't already) then leave the guild/be kicked. When he comes back in it SHOULD be at the lowest rank, effectively making you the only "leader" rank if you can't demote him.
Barring either of those, and again if he is willing, you may have to both call a GM (well, maybe one of you while the other will be on for awhile... both may be over-kill) and talk to him to confirm the story though.
If that doesn't work (aka the GM wont do anything about changing the guild leadership around) that was basically the last thing I could think of, so you're basically SOL and either have to live with him as a "leader" (with you having the same privalages as he of course, if he promotes you) or make a new guild with those loyal to you and dislike him.
Oh, and do try these things in order... the last one with the GM is basically the extreme end of possibilities and is VERY last-ditch.
If that doesn't work, try talking to him about it. Assuming he is willing, he can promote you to leader rank (if you aren't already) then leave the guild/be kicked. When he comes back in it SHOULD be at the lowest rank, effectively making you the only "leader" rank if you can't demote him.
Barring either of those, and again if he is willing, you may have to both call a GM (well, maybe one of you while the other will be on for awhile... both may be over-kill) and talk to him to confirm the story though.
If that doesn't work (aka the GM wont do anything about changing the guild leadership around) that was basically the last thing I could think of, so you're basically SOL and either have to live with him as a "leader" (with you having the same privalages as he of course, if he promotes you) or make a new guild with those loyal to you and dislike him.
Oh, and do try these things in order... the last one with the GM is basically the extreme end of possibilities and is VERY last-ditch.
These are the reasons I wanted to know the characters' names and the guild/server. I was going to look on the main EQ2 site and let you know definitively what you can and can not do. If your icon in the guild database is the exact same shape and color as his, than you are both on equal playing ground. As such, you will be able to demote him and restrict his bank access. If, however, you are lower than him, you cannot do anything aside from talking to him or bringing in a GM as (and I am echoing everyone here) the VERY LAST effort.
Edited, Aug 11th 2006 at 3:11pm EDT by Mearyk
Edited, Aug 11th 2006 at 3:11pm EDT by Mearyk
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Yes Mearyk I replyed to you on a personal message check you inbox...
As far as leader rank I am not sure, I do have a purple thing next to my name, whis the highest guild member title on the list same as his, however I tried to create a website and forums and I recieved a message that I did not have the admin. rites to do it. So he has locked the admin rites only for himself the guild wants a forum and I can not create it for them.
I was liking that idea of demoting him then effectivally taking over the guild that way... but then if I do that and I do not have all admin. rites what then? I can't have an adult conversation with him so being frank and requesting for him to hand over the leadership will not be an option he behaves like a 12 year old. I too have had very bad experiances with GM help so that would be the VERY last thing I would consider.
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As far as leader rank I am not sure, I do have a purple thing next to my name, whis the highest guild member title on the list same as his, however I tried to create a website and forums and I recieved a message that I did not have the admin. rites to do it. So he has locked the admin rites only for himself the guild wants a forum and I can not create it for them.
I was liking that idea of demoting him then effectivally taking over the guild that way... but then if I do that and I do not have all admin. rites what then? I can't have an adult conversation with him so being frank and requesting for him to hand over the leadership will not be an option he behaves like a 12 year old. I too have had very bad experiances with GM help so that would be the VERY last thing I would consider.
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Sounds like you do have all the rights within the guild online except for the actual title. If you're only concerned about the forums, here is an easy fix. GM will most likely not help you in any way as it is a guild issue and not a game issue. Worst case scenario at this point is reforming
Sadly, if you can't have an "adult" conversation with him you are probably SOL all around with recieving any "admin" rights for the (imo sucky) guild website and such from stationplayers. Chances are that goes off the orriginal guild creator, and i'm not even sure if GMs could change that. BUT, even if they could, they would probably talk to members of the guild/the current leader to see if your story is true and you're not trying to just do some kind of "hostile takeover" type thing.
Your best bet is to just try to demote him to whatever rank you want (in terms of what kind of bank access you want if you have that set) since there is basically no way for him to "lock" the in-GAME guild "admin" rights, because that goes along with the highest rank in the guild, of which you both are it seems.
Your best bet is to just try to demote him to whatever rank you want (in terms of what kind of bank access you want if you have that set) since there is basically no way for him to "lock" the in-GAME guild "admin" rights, because that goes along with the highest rank in the guild, of which you both are it seems.
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however I tried to create a website and forums and I recieved a message that I did not have the admin
We used them for a while but found them clumsy, hard to adjust, some things just didn't work, and not many features. We moved to guildportal.com and now have a sleek website, fully admin rights, and fully functional forums.
Don't bother with the SOE provided site and forums.
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Yes Mearyk I replyed to you on a personal message check you inbox...
I just checked into this message. Your guild was created on August 8th. You are guild level 1 and only have 1,064 status points. Those few points can be made up in a matter of hours. I know you will lose the name, but your best bet is to create a new guild. You can get a name very close to the one you have. I recommend heeding our advice and start a new guild. You are pretty much only giving up the name. If you can't stand the leader after just a few days, imagine how it will be down the line. It seems it will work out much better for everyone if you parted ways.
Edited, Aug 12th 2006 at 6:51pm EDT by Mearyk
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