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#1 Jun 06 2006 at 12:44 AM Rating: Decent
If I wanted to make a good race, and I want to be a Guardian, what race should i be, and what modifier stuff should i get like trait skills and such other stuff.
#2 Jun 06 2006 at 2:41 AM Rating: Decent
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Race really doesn't matter in this game, just choose the one you like the best Smiley: smile
#3 Jun 06 2006 at 3:25 PM Rating: Decent
Pick what you think you'd like to play best, but try to stay away from Barbarian and Ogre, there as so bob-damn many barb and ogre guards it ain't even funny. Do something wierd like gnome or ratonga or kerra or something.

I played a Rat guard named Juggernot for awhile, and he was supprisingly not that bad.
#4 Jun 06 2006 at 5:43 PM Rating: Decent
so like the stats are meaningless than? I remeber in eq1 everyone wanted to go orge tank and stuff. But everyone in eq2 telling me it doesn't matter at all? not even the slightest bit?
#5 Jun 06 2006 at 6:18 PM Rating: Decent
Ok, at the very beginning of the game, for the first 20 levels or so the stats matter a little bit, you MAY have a problem in the HP and stamina as a tank if you go for the smaller classes, but past that they don't fuggin matter.
#6 Jun 07 2006 at 4:33 PM Rating: Decent
GO IKSAR ALL THE WAY!!!
#7 Jun 12 2006 at 4:53 AM Rating: Default
i would go with barbarian because that HP and STAT can help you later in the game i mean its pointless till 40 and so on but if you are looking to make a weird character like a rat or something your going to need a **** load of money just for HP which is stupid as hell. If you of went ahead and picked a barb they are balanaced and you can not worry about HP or mana at all and worry about one stat only. but if you have alot of money and dont want to be worth a **** go rat gnome or whatever. Want to be good go barb or orge only thing about orge they have no agil which agil helps with dodge but you pick...
#8 Jun 12 2006 at 12:23 PM Rating: Decent
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i would go with barbarian because that HP and STAT can help you later in the game i mean its pointless till 40 and so on but if you are looking to make a weird character like a rat or something your going to need a sh*t load of money just for HP which is stupid as hell. If you of went ahead and picked a barb they are balanaced and you can not worry about HP or mana at all and worry about one stat only. but if you have alot of money and dont want to be worth a **** go rat gnome or whatever. Want to be good go barb or orge only thing about orge they have no agil which agil helps with dodge but you pick...



Jesus christ you're a moron, race stats only matter for the first maybe 20 levels, past that any armor you get will even it out. Sure a gnome or rat will have a harder time, but they arn't "Worth a ****" as you so aptly put it with your superior lingustic and grammer skills.
#9 Jun 12 2006 at 5:04 PM Rating: Default
yea i dont cuss and my who the hell wants to buy HP and all that stuff when you can already have it and it increases through game so shut your little mouth and keep your opinions to yourself
#10 Jun 12 2006 at 5:04 PM Rating: Default
yea i dont cuss and my who the hell wants to buy HP and all that stuff when you can already have it and it increases through game so shut your little mouth and keep your opinions to yourself
#11 Jun 12 2006 at 5:04 PM Rating: Default
yea i dont cuss and my who the hell wants to buy HP and all that stuff when you can already have it and it increases through game so shut your little mouth and keep your opinions to yourself
#12 Jun 12 2006 at 6:12 PM Rating: Decent
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i would go with barbarian because that HP and STAT can help you later in the game i mean its pointless till 40 and so on but if you are looking to make a weird character like a rat or something your going to need a sh*t load of money just for HP which is stupid as hell. If you of went ahead and picked a barb they are balanaced and you can not worry about HP or mana at all and worry about one stat only. but if you have alot of money and dont want to be worth a **** go rat gnome or whatever. Want to be good go barb or orge only thing about orge they have no agil which agil helps with dodge but you pick...


I hope no one takes any notice of this post. Smiley: rolleyes

Various races have slight stat advantages at the beginning, but these all become more irrelevent the further you progress in levels. They're such small numbers they become meaningless after level 20 and are evened up across the races by stats on armour.

You won't need a heap of money to compensate for your original stats. This applies to all classes.

If you love Barbarians for the look, then go ahead and play one, but be warned you won't be unique, there are a ton of 'em running around Smiley: lol

As for ogres not having any agility, well agility is not a Guardian stat anyway. We don't need to specialise in dodging, it's our job to get hit Smiley: smile
#13 Jun 12 2006 at 10:10 PM Rating: Default
actully stat does matter because ive met same level rats and gnomes and same job and they have no where near to mit or HP as i do the only way they could is if they used all level upgrades to do so but then you waste them you waste masters that could of been very useful.




65 paladin
70 sage
#14 Jun 13 2006 at 10:02 AM Rating: Good
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yea i dont cuss and my who the hell wants to buy HP and all that stuff when you can already have it and it increases through game so shut your little mouth and keep your opinions to yourself
Thank you for participating in this mature forum. However, your immature comments are best used in WoW, go back to it.

If you would like to discuss the pro's and con's of classes, we are happy to participate. Please use your extra money to buy some capital letters and punctuation.

Edited, Jun 13th 2006 at 12:14pm EST by tutanbriarpaw
#15 Jun 15 2006 at 4:01 AM Rating: Default
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

I like how he got to 65 and still has no idea how the Stat system works.

~Incorrect~

Starting stats are based on Race.
Stat modifiers are based on Class.
Stat changes per level are based on Class.

That means that the 9 point STA difference between Gnomes and Ogres at level 1 with all stats/buffs the same will be the exact 9 point STA difference between those 2 at level 65.

That means that the ONLY difference between the 2 tanks is the HP granted by and only by those 9 STA. Oh but I'm sorry, the Gnome has 10 more AGI for increased Avoidance.

They're the damn same tanks.

I actually kinda think thats lame... but its true.
#16 Jun 15 2006 at 10:28 PM Rating: Default
when it comes to tanking avoidence dosent mean anything. Yes it helps but dosent face the fact for if they do and will get hit they will be hit harder. Today about 1 hour ago 4:56 pm i was in party with a rat guardian he had same imbued armor as me and everything almost to the exact tee. So you say they are the same tanks well they arent. When we started off he was avoiding some but gets hit for about 300 and im only being hit for 200 when i tank so can you tell me the diffenrence since we both are exact same, why is he being hit for more dmg then me? I mean we have the same armor and are same level, oh but i remember the armor makes up for it, well thats *********
#17 Jul 15 2006 at 12:56 AM Rating: Default
No, you're dead wrong, it's kind of funny.

Avoidance % wise is more effective than Mit % wise. Now look at your mit's actual absorbance %s and then they're even, but Mit doesn't work on a flat scale, it's a function of the attackers accuracy and level. There is what I call a "hot range" in which each point of Mit can and does make a good difference, but if you fall below that range or go too far above that range it starts making a very small difference. Try it yourself...

As for avoidance, that is a FLAT % of how many attacks coming from a same level average accuracy enemy you will dodge. Just because in a string of hits you don't notice Avoidance DOES NOT MEAN it is pointless. At the end of the day, I garentee you works itself in.

Think of it this way... maybe you'll understand.

2 people take 10 tests. One person makes all 65s. Another person makes all 90s, but misses 3 of those tests. Who got the higher score? The person who made all 65s!!? HORAY!!

... O wait, nevermind not horay. Cuz we're talking about how hard you're getting hit for here. So yes, 7/10 times person 2 came in and saw 90s (getting hit much harder), but just 3 of those times he skipped the test (avoided an attack) and he ended up with LOWER overall score (damage).

Obviously the combat gets very complex, as you see a good Plate with a shield should be somewhere near the top of the "hot range" AND have 35-40% avoidance while in defensive stance.

Lastly, and just to clerify what has already been said multiple times, STA has nothing to do with Mit! Race has nothing to do with Mit! Where are you getting the idea that this Ratonga has lower mit due to his class? He very well may have lower mit, but hes either doing something wrong (is in Offensive, is using a Grant of Arms, or isn't shielded) or is simply outgeared...

None of that has anything to do with his race... ?
#18 Jul 15 2006 at 3:50 AM Rating: Decent
Thanks for trying T, but its absolutely useless to try t correct undisputer. I've been trying to ever since he first started posting here, but the kid's just not all that bright.
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