This isn't a flame EQ2 thread, I have to say, it's a really good game. The thing that really irked me about it was the skill systems and how you upgraded them.
In EQ1 and WoW, you gain a certain level and just talk to your trainer, pay some cash that increased as you levelled. You'd buy scrolls in EQ1, but they were always available, just had to find them.
In EQ2 you have to rely on drops or player crafted scrolls or books to update spells or skills.
As a Necro and I can't vouch for other classes, I found it very hard to find scrolls on the brokers or even via drops. I'd get scrolls for every other class, try to sell them, but I didn't make much. If you do find one on the brokers, high level players want and arm and a leg for it, who the heck has 10 plat at level 20? I spoke with a crafter, she said she'd make it, but I'd have to farm some rare incredients from rocks and herb spawns. This took hours. Some skills you do upgrade get replaced later and it was a waste to update them in the first place.
I just wish there was a better way to upgrade spells.
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It was a way SOE created interdependancy between adventurers and crafters.
IT is standard for a sroll maker to charge 10-20g to make a spell, as long as you provide the rare. You can buy the rare from the merchant, but, since they are rare, they are expensive.
I've purchased mosst of my Adept III spell upgrades, and have only 1 made for me. Since they are expensive to buy pre-made (2-3pp) I can only upgrade 1 or 2 at a time. Then I go hunt more and make more loot drop cash, and repeat the cycle.
It's the sme process for upgrading gear. Crafters get their money and I get my upgrades.
The level 50-60 spells are sold only at Court merchants in Maj Dul (Desert of Flames expansion). You must gain favorable faction with one of them to buy the Appentice version of it. A much easier way is to just buy an Adept 1 version from the broker. Most are reasonable.
Level 60-70 spells are only crafted or dropped. There is no merchant available to purchase even a basic version of the spell.
IT is standard for a sroll maker to charge 10-20g to make a spell, as long as you provide the rare. You can buy the rare from the merchant, but, since they are rare, they are expensive.
I've purchased mosst of my Adept III spell upgrades, and have only 1 made for me. Since they are expensive to buy pre-made (2-3pp) I can only upgrade 1 or 2 at a time. Then I go hunt more and make more loot drop cash, and repeat the cycle.
It's the sme process for upgrading gear. Crafters get their money and I get my upgrades.
The level 50-60 spells are sold only at Court merchants in Maj Dul (Desert of Flames expansion). You must gain favorable faction with one of them to buy the Appentice version of it. A much easier way is to just buy an Adept 1 version from the broker. Most are reasonable.
Level 60-70 spells are only crafted or dropped. There is no merchant available to purchase even a basic version of the spell.
As a necro, are you depending only on the Freeport broker?
There is a black market broker for each city who can give you access to all the goods sold on the other city's brokers and since necro spells are of little use in Qeynos, the adept 1 drops are probably quite reasonably priced.
I know it has worked this way for me when buying ranger spells. I always take a run to the Qeynos black market broker and can often snag what I need on the cheap.
Unfortunately, I don't know where the FP black market broker is located. Maybe someone more familiar with the dark side can help you there...
There is a black market broker for each city who can give you access to all the goods sold on the other city's brokers and since necro spells are of little use in Qeynos, the adept 1 drops are probably quite reasonably priced.
I know it has worked this way for me when buying ranger spells. I always take a run to the Qeynos black market broker and can often snag what I need on the cheap.
Unfortunately, I don't know where the FP black market broker is located. Maybe someone more familiar with the dark side can help you there...
The FP side broker should be here, at position 16.
And it is indeed a very good idea to check on the fence from time to time. If you get lucky, you will find your spells cheap, if the vendor is reasonable. (I always am, or try to anyway)
And it is indeed a very good idea to check on the fence from time to time. If you get lucky, you will find your spells cheap, if the vendor is reasonable. (I always am, or try to anyway)
Unless you're at the level cap, don't worry about getting your spells to Master I (drop only) or Adept III (crafted from rare harvests). Adept I is most likely good enough.
If you're heavily into end-game raiding you probably want to upgrade as many spells as possible, but the guilds that do that have rares out the wazoo from drops and crafter slaves and will probably equip you.
At levels X4 you get to choose a Master II (Highest level in game) spell/art for one of your important spells. Obviously a priest class wants to go with a heal, a tank with a taunt, etc. This will keep you competitive - choose wisely.
Spells upgrade every 14 levels - so if you're at the highest level for a spell in the game so far, you might want to upgrade it. Look at the difference between Adept I and whatever you're considering, it may not be worth the plat, especially if it's a less important spell for you (like a Templar nuke :P)
Finally, IMHO, below level 40 - just skip Adept III and Master I entirely unless you're filthy rich.
Edited, Tue Apr 4 12:06:00 2006 by Lydiaele
If you're heavily into end-game raiding you probably want to upgrade as many spells as possible, but the guilds that do that have rares out the wazoo from drops and crafter slaves and will probably equip you.
At levels X4 you get to choose a Master II (Highest level in game) spell/art for one of your important spells. Obviously a priest class wants to go with a heal, a tank with a taunt, etc. This will keep you competitive - choose wisely.
Spells upgrade every 14 levels - so if you're at the highest level for a spell in the game so far, you might want to upgrade it. Look at the difference between Adept I and whatever you're considering, it may not be worth the plat, especially if it's a less important spell for you (like a Templar nuke :P)
Finally, IMHO, below level 40 - just skip Adept III and Master I entirely unless you're filthy rich.
Edited, Tue Apr 4 12:06:00 2006 by Lydiaele
I made a necro alt and I also have trouble finding tier 1 to tier 3 spells for him even checking both brokers. IF you can afford it you can't go wrong with adept 3 pets, but don't break yourself over it especially if you can find adept 1. The problem I think is most of your heavy tradeskillers are all lvl 50+ and they don't want to spend the time on lower tier spells (especially tier 3 because you have to make subcombines etc). I did finnally find a a lvl 30 sage but he expected 5 gold per combine for app4 spells and 7 gold for adept 3 (me supplying rare). My tier 6 paladin only pays 10 gold for tier 6 rares and 3 gold for iter 6 app 4's so why would I pay somebody 5 gold for tier 3. So anyways what spells I can't get upgraded to app4 I will just stick with app1 (maybe app2 if I swing by the merchant).
At lower levels the extra damage from app1 to app4 isn't much, I just get sick of seeing RESISTED every time I cast a spell. The higher you upgrade your spell the less likely it is to be resisted. That is the biggest benefit of upgraded spells IMO, especially at lower levels.
On a same note I can't hardly ever find any armor worth anything at lower levels. All I ever find is the no stat stuff for crazy prices it seems. But still biggest problem is most tradeskillers are in the higher tiers now :/
At lower levels the extra damage from app1 to app4 isn't much, I just get sick of seeing RESISTED every time I cast a spell. The higher you upgrade your spell the less likely it is to be resisted. That is the biggest benefit of upgraded spells IMO, especially at lower levels.
On a same note I can't hardly ever find any armor worth anything at lower levels. All I ever find is the no stat stuff for crazy prices it seems. But still biggest problem is most tradeskillers are in the higher tiers now :/
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I just get sick of seeing RESISTED every time I cast a spell.
Yea I know that is a big factor also, but still upgrading your spells decreases the chance it will be resist (this can be seen by examining your spell at app1, then examining the spell scroll/book. Usually though its not much of a differece between app1 and app4. There is usually a decent jump though between app4 and adept 1 though.
What kills me though is when you fight a mob 20 levels below you and it still manages to land hits and spells on you yet a mob 5 levels above us resists us 80% of the time reguardless of spell level.
What kills me though is when you fight a mob 20 levels below you and it still manages to land hits and spells on you yet a mob 5 levels above us resists us 80% of the time reguardless of spell level.
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