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#1 May 29 2005 at 1:27 AM Rating: Decent
i played EQ for a long time and loved it. But then my parents got a mac. And i want to play EQ2 bad as hell. I played WoW but that appeal didnt last long after i got to lvl 60 way to fast. So i was wonderin has there been ne news about EQ2 comin out for the mac?
#2 May 30 2005 at 5:51 AM Rating: Decent
A Mac-in-trash computer doesn't have the horse power required to run this game. Even a "top of the line" G5 would suck! Trust me on this... I have to deal with a dual proc G5 at work every day and it's a piece of garbage!!! Doubt you'll ever see a server for Mac...
#3 May 30 2005 at 9:50 AM Rating: Good
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Also, I don't think EQ1 for the Mac went over well. They may take that into consideration if they're thinking about EQ2 for Mac.
#4 Jun 01 2005 at 9:11 AM Rating: Decent
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Although Macs are somewhat cool, less so now than 20 years ago, lets be perfectly up front: the market for macs is very small. The development for MAC software used to be easier than for Windows, in that Apple wrote very good kits for getting a program up and running on a Mac. Windows was much more closed. However, by now you can buy "Enterprise" version compilers from MS with support for the OS internals such that theres no comparative value to writing for the mac. Worse, at maybe 9 % of the market, considering how many updates are need just for the IBM_Compatibles market (thats now called WIntel), well... if they need to ***** up my morning every 24 hours to hotfix yesterday's patch, the product isnt stable enough for development on another platform. It would mean a new set of tech support reps, a huge investment in facilities and testing, and would delay the game further. At this point, its easier for you to piece together a game PC on say $400 budget than to wait for them to make a Mac version. I did my game PC on a $250 budget, but I already had my disk and video card. $400 plus OS should get you up, if you're motivated and know someone to assemble it safely for you.

My advice is free, for what its worth. Then again, you get what you pay for...
#5 Jun 01 2005 at 2:48 PM Rating: Decent
It would be nice if people who knew anything about Macs had responded. I work with Macs and PCs everday. The Macs constantly out perform the PCs. Plus you don't have to worry about all those worms and viruses. Have any of you seen what is coming out in the Mac line? Why are people so negative about the Mac? I really don't understand the need to trash Macs.

Arghhhh!

Can you tell that this trash the Mac attitude is a personal pet peeve of mine? I don't own a Mac because I build my own PCs. And yes, that does impinge the sale of Macs. But that has also guaranteed the stability of the sytstems. I get so furious when people who have never been in our lab take one look at the Macs and walk out in disgust. But those who decide to give it a try keep coming back. Repeatedly.

I do agree with the posters about Sony not coming out with an EQII though. But then with the increase in popularity of the Mac in the last 2 years maybe that will change.

/step down from soap box.
#6 Jun 01 2005 at 4:39 PM Rating: Decent
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Since the hardware is so different... as well as the os and the drivers.. i just don't see them spending the dev. money to put eq2 on a mac.. now I have no clue who said macs suck.. but when it comes to video and images.. the mac is the king sunny jim.. I love my pc don't get me wrong but for video and kick *** graphics nothing beats a mac..
#7 Jun 01 2005 at 11:40 PM Rating: Decent
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...now I have no clue who said macs suck.. but for video and kick *** graphics nothing beats a mac..

It was me, and at the risk of straying even further off topic, you're dreaming.

What precisely do you base this fantasy of yours on? Macs have weaker processors and there are fewer high end video cards available for mac. In addition, since there is no competition in the design of mac mobos, (Apple makes the only mac mobos), they are far behind pc in that arena as well. So what is it that you think gives mac the edge in graphics or video?

The "best" G5 atm is a dual proc running a pair of 1.5GHZ Motorola CPUs. Match this against a 3+ GHZ hyper thread P4 or a top of the line CPU from AMD and it's not even a horse race. Front side buss, chip design, OS... the list goes on and on.

Apple is sorely lacking in every aspect of desktop computer design. And that's why they suck! Sure they're pretty and the gui is slick looking but do you want a computer that runs well or a computer that looks good? Clearly, (to me anyway), with Apple, you don't get both.

Once again, I work on a dual proc mac for 8+ hours a day and in the evening, I can't wait to log out and come home to a real computer.

Zoobecca, I'm sorry if this offends you. It isn't personal... it's just that one of my pet peeves is the defense of an inferior product through the use of folklore!
#8 Jun 02 2005 at 10:20 AM Rating: Decent
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The "best" G5 atm is a dual proc running a pair of 1.5GHZ Motorola CPUs. Match this against a 3+ GHZ hyper thread P4 or a top of the line CPU from AMD and it's not even a horse race. Front side buss, chip design, OS... the list goes on and on.


actually this is currently the top of the line Mac:
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Dual 2.7GHz PowerPC G5 very nice
1.35GHz frontside bus/processor OMFG!!!
512K L2 cache/processor
512MB DDR400 SDRAM needs more ram, they SHOULD make it a 1Ghz min on this model IMO
Expandable to 8GB SDRAM very pretty but I shudder to think of the cost
250GB Serial ATA
16x SuperDrive (double-layer)NICE... but how much does that media go for... YOUCH!
Three PCI-X Slots
ATI Radeon 9650 nice again, but I'd have to swap it out for an Nvidia 6800 class since the mac's are running a unix core OS and Nvidia cards seem to perform slightly better with OpenGL graphics performance than ATI's on other Unix systems.
256MB DDR video memory
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honestly a solid system... the PC/Mac wars were always sorta odd to me.. IMO you pick the best tool for the job. I have both. My pc was there first and is my primary gaming station.. and My iBook is my email and surfing system (since there are zero viruses for OS-X and zero spyware too.. yes I checked.. there are NONE, zip, zilch, nothing) which protects my pc from any virus out there.. since all it does now is run games.

though the iBook surprised me.. it's primary purpose was for projector connection, fansub playback, DVD playback, and to takeover web and email functions to protect my main box from malware, however I've discovered it actually runs WoW surprisingly well for a system that's hitting the min. spec... well enough for me to consider buying a PowerBook and giving my iBook to my other half (so her PC system is effectively removed from any and all virus risks), and that way we both have travel systems (we both travel a lot) and can still get some game time while we're out (she games too).

thus far apple's biggest failings are not opening up the hardware to 3rd parties.. but that's also what has allowed them to so closely control the functions and software compatibility.. and sheer system cost... it's gotten better but it's still pretty easy to build a PC a LOT cheaper (until you pay the microsoft tax)

unfortunately strict hardware control is a double edge sword... since that's an extra hoop for 3rd party companies to go through and many of them do not have the time nor the inclination or the money to do so for such a small market. That said.. it simply makes sense to make software for the largest consumer base, and trickle down to other platforms *IF* it's deemed worthwhile financially.

to the OP... well you're SOL.. no EQ2 on Mac that I can see happening... since firstly the game has to be successful enough to make up the cost of development and then begin truly making a profit.. for the average game this takes about 1 to 3 years. EQ2 isn't even a year old yet, then they have to decide there is enough interest in the game within the Mac community (add to that coming into the Mac MMO playing field so late after WoW creates a nasty uphill battle)... then slap on at least another year or more after that to develop the code for another OS... on the MINIMUM you're looking at a 1.5 year wait and that's assuming they start dev. on an OS-X version on the games 1 year anniversary in November (don't hold your breath). This all assumes they have not even started an OS-X version at all...

so this brings up the question... Blizzard released WoW on Mac and PC at the same time?? Well blizzard is notorious for many things.. one of which is simultaneous system support in all their games.. I suspect the Dev time for WoW is longer than any of us could even guess at because of that... but it makes those of us with multiple platforms quite happy. How they pull it off.. I honestly don't know... but the Mac world is fortunate that such a huge company is counted in it's rather small list of software (and especially game) developers. Smiley: smile
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