Is this game that bad and getting that much worseFollow

If you're looking for people to just agree with you, sorry but you've come to the wrong place

There are quite a few threads along these lines in this forum, maybe you could just scroll down a bit or do a search.

Honestly you've come here with such negative thoughts about EQ2 right from the start, and it's last on your list. Would be way too much of an uphill battle to convince you otherwise.

As for me, I played EQ1 for 4 years and having a ball in EQ2 but not going to turn myself inside out convincing someone who's already made up their mind, sorry.

It all depends on the attitude you go in with, I think. I tried it at launch and ended up quitting for WoW for about 3 months. WoW is a great game, but Honor Crap-system ruined it for me, since I was on an RP server and now it's hardly more than a PvP server... but whatever. So I came back to EQ2 and this time I'm enjoying it (and SOE hasn't messed up my billing again, numerous people have had problems with that...or at least they did a few months ago, so far so good this time *shrug* )

They've fixed a lot of things, but it's definately not as...vibrant as WoW. It's more serious, but you don't have to grind if you don't want to, just quest. I've gotten my wizard to 23 by questing, and it hasn't been hard. I think the main thing is don't go to that game with the expectations of leveling anywhere near as fast as you did in WoW.

Also, more fixes and /dueling for PvP is on the way. Yes, Sony is letting people buy gold and characters, but these are limited to special servers that are marked (or will be, they aren't in yet) and you won't have to have anything to do with those servers if you don't want to. An expansion pack has also been announced.

Well you did not give me one good reason why I hsould get it. I think I am going to go back to EQ1 I picked up EQ2 demo. If I play that can I continue my toon if I decide to get the game?
Also... Is 30-50 that bad its one big grind. I was just wondering if its as good as EQ1.

And why no beastlord? Seems the only pet class is the necromancer. And speaking of classes I heard there is not much difference as people would like. If I decide to play htis game I will probably go Monk.

As I have told a few people that I know that came from eq1. You are talking about two different games. eq has been out what.. 7 years.. been expanded 5 or more times.. it is a raid based game. it has evolved into that.. and most that play it are there to raid and do high end content.

eq2 is less then a year old so of course there will be somewhat lack of content( which I don't see but not my place to tell others) not to mention they keep adding more and more content to the game. Raiding is only a part of eq2 to where it is most of eq1.. you have questing and crafting you have grouping and solo and all of this rolled up in one game.

I just recently hit 30 and in the grand scale have not been to half the places I could I have tons of things I have not even seen. I also still have the adventure pack to work on.. and quests to do.. and harvesting to do... and leveling both my adventure and crafting chars..


As for classes.. the pet casters are necros and conjours.. other classes can get pets but are not effective.. from my understanding( don't qoute me) beastlord was created for people to solo with.. cause the other chars in eq1 where not that great at it.. Every class in eq2 can solo so there is no point for one class to do it.. as for the differences there are more then people will admit.. some classes are very close but they are of the same subclass.. example you want to be a monk.. I am a bruiser.. those are the brawler subclasses... You have targetable heals.. mine are self only.. you have more and better group buffs i have self and ok group buffs.. you are more defensive then I am.. I get more offensive abilities. You last a bit longer in a fight and I kill a bit quicker.. in the end we even out but each of us have our roles in groups..


here is moorguard from eqII explaining the same thing might be helpful

"Of SOE games in the foreseeable future, EverQuest will remain the most focused on raiding. Its advancement path is a rather direct one: improve your character by gaining levels and loot. This has been extremely successful, and is a model many other games have emulated.

Our goal with EverQuest II was never to replace EQ as the game providing that experience. Instead, our mission is to offer multiple ways to advance: grouping, soloing, crafting, growing your guild, decorating your house, etc. Yes, raiding is one of those options, though our resources are not focused on making that the only path available to our players.

Since launch we have introduced quite a few new raids. The most recent ones have tended to be the most interesting and popular, as we have made them both more entertaining and unique. You will see us continue to add more such encounters regularly."

That is the thing a lot of the people who told me not to get it have played both WoW and EQ2 and say WoW>EQ2 in every way but grahics. And all these people played EQ1 and said EQ1 is better than EQ2.
IF I play the trial and decide to get the game can I then continue that characters?

im not sure about that.. but I will tell you the isle has a level cap of 6.. so even if you had to restart it takes a day to get back.. but from the info i here you get to keep that char..

I've played EQ1 (for 1 year), WoW since launch and EQ2 since launch, and while I like WoW and EQ1, EQ2 is my favorite, by a small margin.

WoW is fun but it's a little too easy, and frankly I find it to be more of a grind. They disguise it well with the speed of leveling, the soloability and all the quests but it's pretty much the same thing from the beginning to the end, at least as far as I've gotten. I also think there is a fundamental flaw in an MMO where it's faster to level by soloing than by grouping. By no means do I think you should be forced to group, but there should be some incentive to do so, even for low end content. I hear many high end players are complaining that unless you play 8 hours a day, 7 days a week you're going to be gimped, which is not in line with the casual nature of the rest of the game.

EQ2 improves on EQ1's rigidity. There is more than one way to advance and more than one thing to do. You can solo, group, raid, tradeskill, furnish your apartment, exlplore, level your guild, gain status, seek lore and heritage and they're all viable means to have a good time. If you're a min/maxer who's only goal in an MMO is to get to the highest level ASAP, EQ2 will be the least appealing game of the three mainly because combat is, honestly, so predictable. And if that's all you want to do, kill stuff for exp and loot, I can see you getting bored. However, if you can derive any satisfaction from doing any of the other things I mentioned EQ2 will be the most appealing of the three.

For example, I went to the Commonlands over the weekend to do the Greater Lightstone Heritage Quest. The quest was way below my level and everything was very gray to me. But in the process I was able to learn the Orc language, get Orc Mastery, explore a new area and new creatures where nothing aggroed on me, kill enough orcs to get a hunter title, get smack talk from Freeport guards, meet some nice new people for the final fight and get a ton of personal and guild status for comleting the quest, and a nice item. I got next to no experience, but I had fun. Then I went back to Antonica and Thundering Steppes and did some quests I missed (Oh, how I wish I could beat up that spoiled brat in Windstalker Villiage...), and the new quest series. Next I'm going back to Stormhold and Fallen Gate to catalog their creatures. If you can't see why anyone would want to do that, then you won't like EQ2.

Dps in EQ2 are mostly wizards type and scout types, but class dosent work like EQ1, so monk and bruiser in this game are tanks, they just use different tactic to get their role done. Its the same for healer, defiler, inquisitor, templar, druid, mystic etc, they can all be main healer but they work it differently. It makes for alot of tactics, certain healer types works best with bruiser, while other works best on guardian etc.

As for being a big grind, yes, Everquest 2 is very long to level thats true if thats what you mean by grind. But, what makes it ok for me is that there is interesting content for all levels. Epic battles, raids etd can happen at level 10, 20 etc.
The 'consider' system works with solo targets, group targets ( heroic ) and raid targets ( heroic x2,3 etc.)

Yesterday i saw some named vulrich in the commonland, it was a raid target of level 20, i could have summoned a bunch of my friend and try to take it out and who knows what would have happen !!

Also there is the crafting system, its hard long and tedious, but always keep in mind that you dont need to just aim for 50, if you keep your artisan level in pair with your adventure level youll really be able to make interesting items that your character can use ( and other char too since they kept the shared bank system in eq2). And you can make alot of things, with rare recipes, and common recipes.

And the thing that EQ2 kept from EQ1, you really do get that sense of accomplishement, you get to be proub of your character because you arent just a random 60 bystander in a crowded game where you just need to breath 5 time to reach the sdame level or expertise than anyone else.

Been playing since release and my higher character is only 22 but i always have 10 differnet thing i muist do in my head so the fun never stops.

even as a tank brusiers do outstanding damage.. but don't bank on that cause damage and tanking ability are being revamped on test and im sure we are going to catch a nerf to our damage.

But as of right now I can lay the smack down with the best of them and tank pretty good too..

If you want to level up quickly, the first 13 levels or so are cake. You can spend 6 hours and, if you use maps and quest guides, hit 11th or 12th level without any major issues. Leveling is easy with the mid to low twenties, and so far seems to be the same for the mid to low thirties. The trick is not to bite off more than you can chew. Personally, I'd say that Warden is the best for soloing, and almost always wanted in a group for healing and buffs, while the direct damage spells are great for soloing. The advantage is that you can create several different types and run with them; that's the only way you'll know. And I miss the Beastlord, and was mighty ticked when I found out I couldn't have my pet, but you get over it pretty quickly. Crafting helps throw some variety into the mix, and as was stated earlier, if you keep your levels close, you can make your own equipment (and turn some decent coin at the same time).

Shiirr Khan (Evolution)
Blackburrow
34 Warden, 29 Jeweler