Can anyone advise what the best quality (ie highest satiation) food and drink would be that I can craft to assist me while I'm adventuring?
I'm not a Craftsman so the highest recipe book I can use would be Artisan level 9.
I'm level 23 adventurer so I have access to tier 2 harvests.
Any tips gratefully consumed (and drunk)...
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Try that.
Try that.
All player crafted food/drink has the same satiation rate - high. So, anything you craft will have the same value. However, the lvl 9 book still won't have any recipes for tier 2 food/drink and since you are lvl 23 adv, you should be eating/drinking tier 2 chow! The tier 1 food will probably still be green to you but will not be as effective as tier 2.
With that in mind, you might be better off questing for some food since all quested food has a satiation rate of superior. The only drawbacks to this are that each quested food reward is a one shot deal and the duration of quested food tends to be 1/2 hour.
If you're over on the good side, I would suggest running a bunch of the brand new quests given out by Matsy Rollingpin. She can be found upstairs in Sayer's Cabin, (Antonica - junction of the North/South roads).
She is a pleasent little hafling who will send you out on a ton of food related quests and will always give you something to eat along with your cash reward. Chowder, Stew, Cookies... she's quite a cook!
Good luck and good eating!
With that in mind, you might be better off questing for some food since all quested food has a satiation rate of superior. The only drawbacks to this are that each quested food reward is a one shot deal and the duration of quested food tends to be 1/2 hour.
If you're over on the good side, I would suggest running a bunch of the brand new quests given out by Matsy Rollingpin. She can be found upstairs in Sayer's Cabin, (Antonica - junction of the North/South roads).
She is a pleasent little hafling who will send you out on a ton of food related quests and will always give you something to eat along with your cash reward. Chowder, Stew, Cookies... she's quite a cook!
Good luck and good eating!
I hate to do it, but have to disagree with OBD on this one.
If you are already level 9, then run around one of the tier 1 zones, and collect all the fish and all the harvests you can get that are used for food.
You'll level pretty fast as a provisioner. Or just go buy the harvests off brokers, a lot of the stuff sells for a copper. Unfortunately tier 1 is a little less common on the vendors than tier 2 or 3.
But you'll be doing tier 2 stuff in no time.
Used to be sweet to be a provisioner, just go to Antonica, and swim in the moat around Qeynos, you'd get hundreds of fish in no time at all. Packet of spices, a fish, a fuel, and you're going to town!
There's 2 paths to skilling up on tradeskill items.
One school of thought is that you make one of each of the new items you get per level, and go to pristine with that (you get a bonus for the first time you make something pristine).
The other school of thought is to make a large quantity of a single item. More monotonous but possibly faster, IMHO, because you don't have to swap ingredients around (you know, buy 5 packets of spices, 3 sugar, 1 yeast, etc).
I find fish to be the easiest to skill up on, usually limited competition if you collect your own, and the recipe is basically the same for all levels - fish, packet of spice, fuel.
Provisioner is fun, in part because you don't need anything from other people, your product doesn't last long (so people have to buy more), and you are a great asset to your friends/guildmates.
People react tremendously well if you hand them a stack of food or drink that's green or better to them.
If you are already level 9, then run around one of the tier 1 zones, and collect all the fish and all the harvests you can get that are used for food.
You'll level pretty fast as a provisioner. Or just go buy the harvests off brokers, a lot of the stuff sells for a copper. Unfortunately tier 1 is a little less common on the vendors than tier 2 or 3.
But you'll be doing tier 2 stuff in no time.
Used to be sweet to be a provisioner, just go to Antonica, and swim in the moat around Qeynos, you'd get hundreds of fish in no time at all. Packet of spices, a fish, a fuel, and you're going to town!
There's 2 paths to skilling up on tradeskill items.
One school of thought is that you make one of each of the new items you get per level, and go to pristine with that (you get a bonus for the first time you make something pristine).
The other school of thought is to make a large quantity of a single item. More monotonous but possibly faster, IMHO, because you don't have to swap ingredients around (you know, buy 5 packets of spices, 3 sugar, 1 yeast, etc).
I find fish to be the easiest to skill up on, usually limited competition if you collect your own, and the recipe is basically the same for all levels - fish, packet of spice, fuel.
Provisioner is fun, in part because you don't need anything from other people, your product doesn't last long (so people have to buy more), and you are a great asset to your friends/guildmates.
People react tremendously well if you hand them a stack of food or drink that's green or better to them.
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I hate to do it, but have to disagree with OBD on this one.
You shouldn't hate to disagree with me, (or anyone else here), in pursuit of an opinion you believe in. Discourse is always fuel for positive creative thought!
Now, regarding the content of your response, I would have to disagree with you! The OP stated:
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I'm not a Craftsman so the highest recipe book I can use would be Artisan level 9.
This makes me think that he does not have and will never have access to the lvl 10 - lvl 20 recipes from which to make all the yummy food you recommend for him. And continuing to skill up on tier one food is also not a viable option since those recipes will all soon grey out to him.
Let me say here that I do understand your concept, as I have a lvl 24 woodworker and am still making tier 2 food/drink for main and alts. And what you are saying will work, IF you have a craftsman who can access cooking recipes up till lvl 20. But, in my opinion, without the recipes and the tier 2 buffs, you're pretty much out to lunch!!!
At level 23 you should be using Tier 3 food anyway.
You could keep making Tier 1 food for yourself if you wanted but it doesn't last long and you could buy food and drink now that lasts over 2 hours.
Your best bet is to cultivate a Provisioner as a friend and offer to harvest for him/her in exchange for supplies. Or you could just buy it
You could keep making Tier 1 food for yourself if you wanted but it doesn't last long and you could buy food and drink now that lasts over 2 hours.
Your best bet is to cultivate a Provisioner as a friend and offer to harvest for him/her in exchange for supplies. Or you could just buy it
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At level 23 you should be using Tier 3 food anyway.
At lvl 21 the tier 2 food is still yellow to me so I must still be getting full effect from it. So, why would I want to switch to tier 3 food now?
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You could keep making Tier 1 food for yourself if you wanted but it doesn't last long and you could buy food and drink now that lasts over 2 hours.
There are tier one sandwiches, (like sunfish and deer), that last for more than 5 hours at delectable and the JumJum Fizzlepop lasts nearly 3.5 hours at refreshing, so why should I be looking for 2 hour food or drink?
In the research I've done on food/drink, I've retained a couple of key points, to my understanding of what I've read:
You get highest benefit from food/drink as long as you consume food that is in the Tier above your level (I hope I'm wording this right). For instance, if you are level 12, buy food/drink targeted for level 20's. This will generally be longer lasting food with higher satiation and also will give you significantly increased power regeneration.
As a model, say store bought food/drink regens you at 10 power/tick in a non combat setting...
crafted should regen you at 14 power/tick (maybe more depending on the tier and quality of the crafted)
In combat, store bought may increase your regeneration at 2 power/tick, while crafted around 2.4 power/tick. Again, I'm sure these numbers are variable depending on the quality of the crafted.
Maybe that's why people go to the higher tiers on food/drink, not just considering how long the food/drink will last... but also taking into consideration the power regen capabilities when they're planning on taking on a difficult mob in adventuring.
I got all this info from various posts and research I've come across on the matter so if it's not 100% accurate, correct me please.... I'm in these forums to LEARN
Hope this is helpful!
You get highest benefit from food/drink as long as you consume food that is in the Tier above your level (I hope I'm wording this right). For instance, if you are level 12, buy food/drink targeted for level 20's. This will generally be longer lasting food with higher satiation and also will give you significantly increased power regeneration.
As a model, say store bought food/drink regens you at 10 power/tick in a non combat setting...
crafted should regen you at 14 power/tick (maybe more depending on the tier and quality of the crafted)
In combat, store bought may increase your regeneration at 2 power/tick, while crafted around 2.4 power/tick. Again, I'm sure these numbers are variable depending on the quality of the crafted.
Maybe that's why people go to the higher tiers on food/drink, not just considering how long the food/drink will last... but also taking into consideration the power regen capabilities when they're planning on taking on a difficult mob in adventuring.
I got all this info from various posts and research I've come across on the matter so if it's not 100% accurate, correct me please.... I'm in these forums to LEARN
Hope this is helpful!
In regards to power and health regeneration within combat, if you activate the in game help menu and read up on it, I don't recall which subsection, it clearly states that the benefits of food and drink are suspended while in combat.
I'm surprised at how many people DO believe that, as well as the amount of people who still believe that sitting increases regeneration rate (also addressed in the in game help menu).
I don't fully understand the mechanics of the food and drink within the game and it may be that Superior has better regenerative rates than High (would be logical), but from various things I've read, I have inferred that player crafted food has higher regenerative rates than vendor, wether or not this applies to quested food, I am not sure and have not read anything conclusively on it (in regards to an official post or substantiated player experience/research).
Matching Tier level to player level is supposed to give the most benefits, but consuming higher Tier level food or drink is not supposed to have any added benefits.
I'm surprised at how many people DO believe that, as well as the amount of people who still believe that sitting increases regeneration rate (also addressed in the in game help menu).
I don't fully understand the mechanics of the food and drink within the game and it may be that Superior has better regenerative rates than High (would be logical), but from various things I've read, I have inferred that player crafted food has higher regenerative rates than vendor, wether or not this applies to quested food, I am not sure and have not read anything conclusively on it (in regards to an official post or substantiated player experience/research).
Matching Tier level to player level is supposed to give the most benefits, but consuming higher Tier level food or drink is not supposed to have any added benefits.
Correct. Using red food and drink does not give any added benefit. Its basically like using armor or weapons that are beyond you, except that you can "equip" red food.
If the food is green or better, you are getting fairly decent benfit.
Cut and paste from this thread on eq2traders:
http://mboards.eqtraders.com/eq2/showthread.php?t=3682
If the food is green or better, you are getting fairly decent benfit.
Cut and paste from this thread on eq2traders:
http://mboards.eqtraders.com/eq2/showthread.php?t=3682
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Tier 1 (at level 10) is +12 regen per tick
Tier 2 (at level 20) is +24 regen per tick
Tier 3 (at level 30) is +36 regen per tick
Tier 4 (at level 40) is +48 regen per tick
*(these values are now +50% from the last big patch)*
If a level 40 templar uses tier 1 food they will get +12 per tick from it.
If a level 10 cleric uses tier 4 food, they can't get the high regen, it will only provide them with +12 per tick.
When a food is "white con" it is perfect for your level. You are receiving the maximum possible regen from it, as listed above. There is no regen advantage to eating "red con" food. Once a food is "orange con" to you it will be SLIGHTLY better than the "blue con" food from the tier below.
Tier 2 (at level 20) is +24 regen per tick
Tier 3 (at level 30) is +36 regen per tick
Tier 4 (at level 40) is +48 regen per tick
*(these values are now +50% from the last big patch)*
If a level 40 templar uses tier 1 food they will get +12 per tick from it.
If a level 10 cleric uses tier 4 food, they can't get the high regen, it will only provide them with +12 per tick.
When a food is "white con" it is perfect for your level. You are receiving the maximum possible regen from it, as listed above. There is no regen advantage to eating "red con" food. Once a food is "orange con" to you it will be SLIGHTLY better than the "blue con" food from the tier below.
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In regards to power and health regeneration within combat, if you activate the in game help menu and read up on it, I don't recall which subsection, it clearly states that the benefits of food and drink are suspended while in combat.
They changed that in a recent patch. Food provides it's health regen in combat now. Power regen is still suspended.
However, power regen is NOT suspended when you're crafting, which is nice. I burn mana faster crafting than I do fighting.
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Thanks for clarifying for me
Thanks for clarifying for me
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