I need some help... Could i get a link to all of the sites that would help me in my EQ2 adventures. I would appriciate it very much. Any and all sites would be. Great.
Edited, Thu Apr 14 16:50:27 2005 by Tjskrat
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Could i get a link to all of the sites that would help me in my EQ2 adventures.
You have a connection to the internet and a browser... use them! Doing your own research will prove very rewarding... much more so then depending on others to do your legwork for you.
If you don't know how to find what you need to... then learn! You might begin running a Google on the term "EQ2"... the results are astounding!
When I was a young lad, I used to ask my father how certain words were spelled and his answer was always the same... "There's the dictionary, look it up!" Well, I'm older now, (a LOT older!), and that lesson was the best thing he could have done for me.
Learn to do for yourself... it may seem like a pain now but it will pay off in the long run.
You know come to think about it your sooo right.. Seems this is a multi player game, what better ways to go about things, then do it yourself. That is why I started to play a multi player game so I can have fun doing things myself.
You may be older than I and you have this sense that you have to tell others how to do things. You know what. I don't care. If I wanted a rebuttal to my statement or question I would have gone to the Asylum for it. No, I went into the General forum to get info on EQ2.. That is what it is for.. For players to get together, talk about EQ2 and help each other out.
So next time, when you feel all good about yourself. Do it yourself and just answer the question. If you don't have the answers yourself then by all means Google it. Thanks and have a great day.
For people that have the mental capability to just answer a question asked. Thank you.
You may be older than I and you have this sense that you have to tell others how to do things. You know what. I don't care. If I wanted a rebuttal to my statement or question I would have gone to the Asylum for it. No, I went into the General forum to get info on EQ2.. That is what it is for.. For players to get together, talk about EQ2 and help each other out.
So next time, when you feel all good about yourself. Do it yourself and just answer the question. If you don't have the answers yourself then by all means Google it. Thanks and have a great day.
For people that have the mental capability to just answer a question asked. Thank you.
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UMMM,
Hey Old Blue! your An ASSSSssss Hole
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UMMM,
Hey Old Blue! your An ASSSSssss Hole.
Your also Boaring, so please STFU!
Blue's right. You weren't asking about something difficult, you were asking for the most basic info that 2 seconds with a browser would have given you.
Not like you were asking about some obscure part of some quest that you were having trouble with.
Its absolutely ok to ask questions, but if you ask questions that are easily answerable by anyone in 2 seconds with a browser, don't be suprised that you got flamed for it.
And making a second account so you could more immaturely flame Blue is about as pathetic as it gets. What is that, Ballz? your 10 year old inner child or something? Gimme a break.
Not like you were asking about some obscure part of some quest that you were having trouble with.
Its absolutely ok to ask questions, but if you ask questions that are easily answerable by anyone in 2 seconds with a browser, don't be suprised that you got flamed for it.
And making a second account so you could more immaturely flame Blue is about as pathetic as it gets. What is that, Ballz? your 10 year old inner child or something? Gimme a break.
gossamer and OBD for teh win!!
They're right, you know
They're right, you know
I have to side with OBD on this one
First of all, you were able to find this site, so that shows you have some capability to locate information on the web. So.. it shouldn't be that hard.
Second, by limiting yourself only to what others tell you, you are not going to find some of the things that may be available. For example, Bumbi gave the link to the EQ2 station forums, but no specific link in there. If you only went by that, you may not do any research on that forum and find that there is a checklist of all 1800 some odd quests, something that may interest you. Also there are two tradeskill sites that are really good, but I don't see them listed below.
Finally, if your willing to ask a simple question such as where information is on the web, it gives the impression that you are going to fall back on other people for your entire existance. As if your entire reasoning for playing a MMORPG was so someone had guided you because you find some 1 player games too hard because you get confused on what to do with them.
of course, this may not be the case and you could just be really lazy, which would make you a bad player still.
That being said, asking for help after you've exausted your resources is acceptable. If you plan on posting on this forum in the future, you want to be at least semi-respectable.
Edited, Sun Apr 10 09:58:48 2005 by Devilwind
First of all, you were able to find this site, so that shows you have some capability to locate information on the web. So.. it shouldn't be that hard.
Second, by limiting yourself only to what others tell you, you are not going to find some of the things that may be available. For example, Bumbi gave the link to the EQ2 station forums, but no specific link in there. If you only went by that, you may not do any research on that forum and find that there is a checklist of all 1800 some odd quests, something that may interest you. Also there are two tradeskill sites that are really good, but I don't see them listed below.
Finally, if your willing to ask a simple question such as where information is on the web, it gives the impression that you are going to fall back on other people for your entire existance. As if your entire reasoning for playing a MMORPG was so someone had guided you because you find some 1 player games too hard because you get confused on what to do with them.
of course, this may not be the case and you could just be really lazy, which would make you a bad player still.
That being said, asking for help after you've exausted your resources is acceptable. If you plan on posting on this forum in the future, you want to be at least semi-respectable.
Edited, Sun Apr 10 09:58:48 2005 by Devilwind
This brings up some interesting observations.
Asking for information is kind of the backbone of this forum. Those with questions ask those with answers. If that was not allowed, then all we would have is a Rant forum.
Assuming that because someone asks a question leads a total judgment of his or her character is a bit much. Perhaps an individual is at work and can't devote hours of searching and scanning. Or can't decode the 400+ posts on "EQ2 or WoW Which is better" thread. Or being new to the game, doesn't know what the better web sites are. Sure they find them, but we all know there are only a handful of good ones that have proven their worth.
We have all posted at some time or another, a question of sorts. We have all been newbies. Maybe some of us are not technologically inclined as others. Maybe some have not "played EQ1 since Beta" and need some coaching.
When I started EQ1 a year or so ago I had absolutely no clue how things worked. I was glad to have my stupid questions answered with patience. I got a few flames, but I ignored them and focused on those that provided help.
I am reminded of a post I saw here, where the signature of an individual caught my eye. It was a link to an article of something to the tone of "Don't ask for help unless you are bleeding from your ears." It was a very long article describing the "rules" people should take before asking for help on a forum. The author was obviously very smart on computer systems, research, and forums. It discussed exhausting hours upon hours in forums, internet, BBS's, chat groups, and many other mediums that few of us actually use.
The entire tone of the article led me to believe that he had no time or patience for those that were not as smart as him.
I was not angry at his arrogance, but felt pity that he had become that way; cold and callused to those "low lifes" that just didn't get it like he did.
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Manners seem to go both ways. If one asks and answers politely, then we should conduct the same. If one asks and answers rudely, well, we reap what we sow.
How easy it is for us to anonymously post and place our opinions and ideas without remorse. We take the time to respond (good or bad) to the OP. However we are insulated that we do not see their face, maybe their concern or emotion. We are safe to be cold and callous ourselves, without regret or concern.
Although I try to maintain civility in my posts, I have posted rude responses in the past, and have gone back to re-read them. "I probably could've said that better.” I think to myself.
Yes, we are free to post what we feel. Yes, we can do what we want. Yes we can be as rude as we wanna be.
But is that why we come here?
Asking for information is kind of the backbone of this forum. Those with questions ask those with answers. If that was not allowed, then all we would have is a Rant forum.
Assuming that because someone asks a question leads a total judgment of his or her character is a bit much. Perhaps an individual is at work and can't devote hours of searching and scanning. Or can't decode the 400+ posts on "EQ2 or WoW Which is better" thread. Or being new to the game, doesn't know what the better web sites are. Sure they find them, but we all know there are only a handful of good ones that have proven their worth.
We have all posted at some time or another, a question of sorts. We have all been newbies. Maybe some of us are not technologically inclined as others. Maybe some have not "played EQ1 since Beta" and need some coaching.
When I started EQ1 a year or so ago I had absolutely no clue how things worked. I was glad to have my stupid questions answered with patience. I got a few flames, but I ignored them and focused on those that provided help.
I am reminded of a post I saw here, where the signature of an individual caught my eye. It was a link to an article of something to the tone of "Don't ask for help unless you are bleeding from your ears." It was a very long article describing the "rules" people should take before asking for help on a forum. The author was obviously very smart on computer systems, research, and forums. It discussed exhausting hours upon hours in forums, internet, BBS's, chat groups, and many other mediums that few of us actually use.
The entire tone of the article led me to believe that he had no time or patience for those that were not as smart as him.
I was not angry at his arrogance, but felt pity that he had become that way; cold and callused to those "low lifes" that just didn't get it like he did.
***
Manners seem to go both ways. If one asks and answers politely, then we should conduct the same. If one asks and answers rudely, well, we reap what we sow.
How easy it is for us to anonymously post and place our opinions and ideas without remorse. We take the time to respond (good or bad) to the OP. However we are insulated that we do not see their face, maybe their concern or emotion. We are safe to be cold and callous ourselves, without regret or concern.
Although I try to maintain civility in my posts, I have posted rude responses in the past, and have gone back to re-read them. "I probably could've said that better.” I think to myself.
Yes, we are free to post what we feel. Yes, we can do what we want. Yes we can be as rude as we wanna be.
But is that why we come here?
Personally, i come here to learn and make myself a better EQ player and try to share what ive learnt so far. If i can have a larf at the same time - even better :-)
Ok, let me ask better questions:
What is EQ2, where can I buy it, how do I play it, is there a fee, and is it anything like DOOM? =P:)
Seriously though, nothing wrong with asking for links, I can do a search and come up with 8 sites of crap and one good site, why not skip the search and see what sites other people have found that are legitimately useful and not full of pop ups and sales of uber leet game guides?
What is EQ2, where can I buy it, how do I play it, is there a fee, and is it anything like DOOM? =P:)
Seriously though, nothing wrong with asking for links, I can do a search and come up with 8 sites of crap and one good site, why not skip the search and see what sites other people have found that are legitimately useful and not full of pop ups and sales of uber leet game guides?
/ascend soapbox
I don't have a problem with people coming here and asking for help, including links to useful sites. But Blue has been a solid and thoughtful contributor to this and the EQ1 board for quite a while and has answered a lot of questions at great length for a lot of people.
He is, therefore, entitled to voice his opinion in a respectful manner which he did. The OP's response (and those of his supporters) was completely uncalled for and makes you look like a bunch of little ****** And I can tell you this - jumping down the throat of someone like Blue is not going to win you many friends among those of us who have the knowlegde, and would otherwise have the inclination, to help you.
Next time, go mouth off to your mom. I'm sure she is used to it by now.
I don't have a problem with people coming here and asking for help, including links to useful sites. But Blue has been a solid and thoughtful contributor to this and the EQ1 board for quite a while and has answered a lot of questions at great length for a lot of people.
He is, therefore, entitled to voice his opinion in a respectful manner which he did. The OP's response (and those of his supporters) was completely uncalled for and makes you look like a bunch of little ****** And I can tell you this - jumping down the throat of someone like Blue is not going to win you many friends among those of us who have the knowlegde, and would otherwise have the inclination, to help you.
Next time, go mouth off to your mom. I'm sure she is used to it by now.
Some people have bad days and I was having one. I know that Blue is a great asset to all of us here in this forum and all other forum that Blue has posted on. So Blue I am sorry for reacting the way that I did. I had spent some time looking up on the different sites and I just couldn't find the info I was looking for. I only have a select time to play. Due to the ball and chain. She even gets huffy when I get on the internet. She thinks it is the root of evil. If she wants to use the internet it is ok though. Well anyhow thank you for you advice. I do try and research things before I go and ask questions. The web sites that were posted I have been to them before and I have them saved to a disk but my computer at home does not have a floppy drive as to when I asked the op I was at home and I didn't have the info with me. So I jumped on alla and asked. So I do apologize for my behavior. I was frustrated.
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Wow!
I came into this thread because I also just started the game.
I was not expecting to see an answer like Blue gave.
It is VERY good Tjskrat that you asked this as those that have been playing the game for awhile could point you to good sites that have the best info.
If you had simple Googled it as Blue sugested you would have hit upon a ton of sites and wouldn't know if they were good unless you spent a lot of time in them.
Just always over look people who answer the way he/she did.
The second person that posted some helpful info was what meesage boards are all about.
*THAT* is the kind of people to associate with as you will go further in life with them around than someone that posts the way teh negative poster did.
I will check out those 3 links he/she posted and see what good info is on them.
Nitescape
I came into this thread because I also just started the game.
I was not expecting to see an answer like Blue gave.
It is VERY good Tjskrat that you asked this as those that have been playing the game for awhile could point you to good sites that have the best info.
If you had simple Googled it as Blue sugested you would have hit upon a ton of sites and wouldn't know if they were good unless you spent a lot of time in them.
Just always over look people who answer the way he/she did.
The second person that posted some helpful info was what meesage boards are all about.
*THAT* is the kind of people to associate with as you will go further in life with them around than someone that posts the way teh negative poster did.
I will check out those 3 links he/she posted and see what good info is on them.
Nitescape
Nitescape says:
And if that is actually what had happened I would agree with you. But that's not what he asked, not even close. If he had said "Hey guys, I've been looking for some GOOD EQ2 sites. I've searched the net and found some decent ones, but a lot of crap too. Can anyone point me to some of the better sites for EQ2?" he would have gotten a very different response.
Instead he basically said "hey guys, I'm lazy, tell me what sites give me the basic info to play EQ2 so I don't have to do anything" or at least that's how it came across. So he got the response one would expect for that kind of question.
If you want intelligent responses to your questions, you should carefully phrase your request/question. If you want flames, then come across as stupid (lack of basic spelling, grammer, punctuation, l33t speak, dude speak, etc), come across as lazy, come across as wanting everything for no effort.
Now, the OP had a bad day and phrased himself badly, but eventually it all straightened out, and that's good.
So lets just let it go at that, and learn from this post and others like it that written communication is NOT the same as verbal communication. Nobody can hear you smile, nobody can hear that you are confused or puzzled. All they see is the written word, and its often misconstrued.
Nearly everyone here is very happy to help answer intelligent and thoughtful questions, that's one reason we hang out here. To help others is a good feeling.
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It is VERY good Tjskrat that you asked this as those that have been playing the game for awhile could point you to good sites that have the best info.
And if that is actually what had happened I would agree with you. But that's not what he asked, not even close. If he had said "Hey guys, I've been looking for some GOOD EQ2 sites. I've searched the net and found some decent ones, but a lot of crap too. Can anyone point me to some of the better sites for EQ2?" he would have gotten a very different response.
Instead he basically said "hey guys, I'm lazy, tell me what sites give me the basic info to play EQ2 so I don't have to do anything" or at least that's how it came across. So he got the response one would expect for that kind of question.
If you want intelligent responses to your questions, you should carefully phrase your request/question. If you want flames, then come across as stupid (lack of basic spelling, grammer, punctuation, l33t speak, dude speak, etc), come across as lazy, come across as wanting everything for no effort.
Now, the OP had a bad day and phrased himself badly, but eventually it all straightened out, and that's good.
So lets just let it go at that, and learn from this post and others like it that written communication is NOT the same as verbal communication. Nobody can hear you smile, nobody can hear that you are confused or puzzled. All they see is the written word, and its often misconstrued.
Nearly everyone here is very happy to help answer intelligent and thoughtful questions, that's one reason we hang out here. To help others is a good feeling.
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