When you get into your high 20's a lot of stuff opens up for you to do....every MMORPG iv'e played the lower levels are slow...especially if you didnt get the game near the release date...now that im near 40 i have waaaay to much to do and so many grp invites i cant get em done...so keep trying and have paitence and you will be busy busy busy before you know it.
So i really dont want to see any more post saying how bad EQ2 sucks coming from someone who is below 30...because you havent played enough to know what your talking about...if you can get to 60 on WoW in 2 weeks, do it, and make 50 alts and get em to 60 too...all within 2 months...doesnt matter to me.
Ill sit here proud and have my pally to 50 with uber gear tankin anything that gets in my way...and when hes pimped out ill grind an alt through the low levels again(might twink him a bit with the pally) and he will be uber at whatever he does
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It's not that I don't want to see what the higher levels are like, it's just that I do not want to waste the next two months getting past the last three levels to get to lvl 30 sigh.
I like slow, it took me 7 months to get to lvl 52 in EQ I. But I'll be darned if I'm going to play a new game in which it will take me much longer to get there.
Yes, there is a lot to do, unfortunately it is all group related. There's hardly a quest you can solo past lvl 26, hardly what was promised.
I like slow, it took me 7 months to get to lvl 52 in EQ I. But I'll be darned if I'm going to play a new game in which it will take me much longer to get there.
Yes, there is a lot to do, unfortunately it is all group related. There's hardly a quest you can solo past lvl 26, hardly what was promised.
While I had fun with EQ2 for pretty much the whole time i played it, I can see where other people may be coming from. Why would someone want to play to 30 before the fun really starts? I'm not really saying that it is no fun under level 30, just saying that I can understand where people are coming from.
Kinda like in Shadowbane. Everyone kept coming down on people for expressing disapoinment in it, saying that you had to get to the level cap before the real fun started. While that may be a valid arguement, why should someone slosh through the lower levels to get to the "fun part"?
I thought there was plenty to do in EQ2 at lower levels, but I was also a very heavy crafter.
Kinda like in Shadowbane. Everyone kept coming down on people for expressing disapoinment in it, saying that you had to get to the level cap before the real fun started. While that may be a valid arguement, why should someone slosh through the lower levels to get to the "fun part"?
I thought there was plenty to do in EQ2 at lower levels, but I was also a very heavy crafter.
On my first alt, I disabled Combat Exp for most of the time and still got to level 18 in about a month and a half, even with splitting time between alts. Just an hour a day or so is all it took, 300+ quests and the occasional mentoring [have to reenable Combat Exp] is all it took. Very little camping or waiting around.
If anything, there's too much to do. And up until this point, it was mostly if not always solo. Even with guildmates within the right level and zone, it was just more practical to solo. Past 15, it was faster to duo and I still avoided groups unless it was things like Fyremyst Gully or Fallen Gate.
No, EQ2 isn't bad. It just suffers in the comparison. I like the learning curve as it is [or was, rather, SOE seems determined to make things easier] and I don't want it to be any easier. It took just a month and a half for some to reach the level cap here. That's plenty easy enough for anyone.
If anything, there's too much to do. And up until this point, it was mostly if not always solo. Even with guildmates within the right level and zone, it was just more practical to solo. Past 15, it was faster to duo and I still avoided groups unless it was things like Fyremyst Gully or Fallen Gate.
No, EQ2 isn't bad. It just suffers in the comparison. I like the learning curve as it is [or was, rather, SOE seems determined to make things easier] and I don't want it to be any easier. It took just a month and a half for some to reach the level cap here. That's plenty easy enough for anyone.
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I like slow, it took me 7 months to get to lvl 52 in EQ I. But I'll be darned if I'm going to play a new game in which it will take me much longer to get there.
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I went from 65-70 in EQ1 in about 10 days, and no, I don't play around the clock. Its not about playing more, its about playing smarter. EQ2 could not make it any easier to level, with stamina now playing an effect in your exp gain.
If getting to 50 was that easy, im not sure how many of us would continue to play this game. It is SUPPOSED to be hard, it is supposed to be challenging, and it is designed for GROUPS! if you enjoy soloing exclusively, there are plenty of single player, offline games to be played, EQ2, WoW, and others may not be for you. Stop soloing green mobs, start grouping to kill reds, oranges, and yellows, keep your stamina up, and watch your exp fly.
I personally had more fun between levels 1 and 20 then I have between lvl 20 and 38. Between those levels I had bunches of quests I could do solo AND that gave decent rewards. I also had fun exploreing Antonica and not having to worry about a bunch of ^^ mobs eatting me up. Soloing is so slow now that I feel like Im wasting time doing it. While some people are very outgoing and friends with half the server, not all of us can walk right into a group. Sometimes I have LFG on for 10 minutes, sometimes I am on 2 hours and get nothing. Also seems like every quest worthwhile past lvl 20 requires a group to do. While its true you can solo on eq2, there is just little reason to do so. I have got 38 some quests in my journal right now, and the only ones I can do solo are the tradeskill writs, and I think 1 might be a blue con kill X mobs. the rest require killing ^^ mobs, or camping some rare spawn (so much for no camps in eq2). Most of the time I end up finishing these types of quests when the mobs grey out (as a conjuror I can't solo a ^^ green for the life of me, at least not since the massive nerf patch awhile back).
So I get where people want to give up early with eq2. Basically Soe advertised this game to have plenty of content for soloists and those who grouped. I also remember them saying there would be no more camping mobs, although I would like to know what those 3 hours trying to get COI access was called?? They start you off leveling fairly fast, and with plenty of fun soloable quests. Then when you hit 20 BAM exp gain slows big time, quests start to require ^^ mobs, and soloing becomes less and less worthwhile.
So I get where people want to give up early with eq2. Basically Soe advertised this game to have plenty of content for soloists and those who grouped. I also remember them saying there would be no more camping mobs, although I would like to know what those 3 hours trying to get COI access was called?? They start you off leveling fairly fast, and with plenty of fun soloable quests. Then when you hit 20 BAM exp gain slows big time, quests start to require ^^ mobs, and soloing becomes less and less worthwhile.
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Well, Fronglo, im a Conj also, (42) and been soloing, when im lfg and cant get a group, and doin fine...are you attempting to solo heroic mobs? If so, stop...do you have at least adept 1 pet? if not, get it.
I too, spend some time lfg, but thanks to a good guild, i can usually scrounge something up, but doesn't happen immediately for me either. This isn't just in eq2, mind you. I was a necro in eq1, and groups were scarce for me, until last 6ish months. eq1 had bugs, solo exp issues, and crappy graphics. I'm confident some of the issues I had with eq1 are slowly being resolved in eq2 (at least for me). My main concern is that they "dummy" up eq2 to please everyone, which would not have the desired result. Bad enough that eq2 gives me a nice, glowing, light trail to lead me places :P
Many quests ARE soloable, and are designed to help you learn the lay of the land (i.e. Bootstrutter's, seems 3 in each zone). Exp isnt bad for a quest that "might" take you 30 minutes or less to complete, and yields moderate experience, not to mention the miriad of "kill xx mobs" that are soloable if you are of the level to be in that zone. In other words, if you can't solo entrance mobs in RV at 38, there is a reason. You technically shouldnt even be hunting there yet. That wasnt a reference to above poster, just an example.
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Edited, Mon Mar 28 12:44:00 2005 by TDKSOREAL
I too, spend some time lfg, but thanks to a good guild, i can usually scrounge something up, but doesn't happen immediately for me either. This isn't just in eq2, mind you. I was a necro in eq1, and groups were scarce for me, until last 6ish months. eq1 had bugs, solo exp issues, and crappy graphics. I'm confident some of the issues I had with eq1 are slowly being resolved in eq2 (at least for me). My main concern is that they "dummy" up eq2 to please everyone, which would not have the desired result. Bad enough that eq2 gives me a nice, glowing, light trail to lead me places :P
Many quests ARE soloable, and are designed to help you learn the lay of the land (i.e. Bootstrutter's, seems 3 in each zone). Exp isnt bad for a quest that "might" take you 30 minutes or less to complete, and yields moderate experience, not to mention the miriad of "kill xx mobs" that are soloable if you are of the level to be in that zone. In other words, if you can't solo entrance mobs in RV at 38, there is a reason. You technically shouldnt even be hunting there yet. That wasnt a reference to above poster, just an example.
peace
Edited, Mon Mar 28 12:44:00 2005 by TDKSOREAL
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If getting to 50 was that easy, im not sure how many of us would continue to play this game. It is SUPPOSED to be hard, it is supposed to be challenging, and it is designed for GROUPS! if you enjoy soloing exclusively, there are plenty of single player, offline games to be played, EQ2, WoW, and others may not be for you. Stop soloing green mobs, start grouping to kill reds, oranges, and yellows, keep your stamina up, and watch your exp fly
Problem is that Sony stated that EQII is NOT just for groups, that people who prefer to solo at times or who do not have that much time to play in a single setting can just log in and get things done that are worthwhile. And that isn't so when you pass lvl 26. Agility isn't worth anything if a solo mob that is the same level or one level higher gives next to nothing in xp.
I like to solo, did it in EQ I too, that's why it took me so long to get to lvl 52, but there I grouped a lot too just to get quests done. Up to lvl 26 I must have done about 300 quests in EQ II, most of them on my own. For some I grouped, but I never grouped for xp. Grinding is not much fun.
Yes, the game should be hard (which is one thing that WoW fails on, it's too easy at times), and it is. But I've had it with swimming two hours just to find two sirens and realising that I'll have to get 13 more.
(edited to add: when I start to think of it, most of my time in EQ I was in groups, no idea why I don't like it that much in EQ II or in WoW)
Edited, Tue Mar 29 07:07:20 2005 by Zieveraar
I normally only solo the solo mobs. I can solo them just fine really, even orange cons if they are not casters. I just have to really watch the speed I cast though. If I cast too fast or heal 1 time too many im as good as dead. My pet is actually adept 3, and all my spells are adept 1 except a couple. The few spells tht are not adept 1 are app4 and when compared to adept 1 they are so close in dps they are not worth upgrading again.
Im just saying a couple of times I tried to solo a ^^green, after all I watched a paladin my lvl take TWO ^^ greens at the same time. Armor and weapons wise I have good, I watch broker every day and never see anything that would really upgrade me.
Actually yesterday I tried to take a ^^ GREY and I actually died in 3 hits from it!! Was a non-named badger I needed to finish up a quest and I figured I could at least kill a grey. After pet got it down to about 50% health I guess I healed 1 time too many. It comes up to me and hits me for 800 damage (stuns), then 300 damage, then 756 damage once more. This was a lvl 32 grey con mob.... CAsters die faster in eq2 to low level mobs then a lvl 65 caster would die to a even con on eq1. Heck at the way things are going 1 good barrge from a lvl 50 mob will kill a lvl 50 caster I bet? I really think eq2 needs up up caster mitigation abit. I know we shouldn't be able to tank, but we shouldn't die from 3 hits from a blasted grey!
Im just saying a couple of times I tried to solo a ^^green, after all I watched a paladin my lvl take TWO ^^ greens at the same time. Armor and weapons wise I have good, I watch broker every day and never see anything that would really upgrade me.
Actually yesterday I tried to take a ^^ GREY and I actually died in 3 hits from it!! Was a non-named badger I needed to finish up a quest and I figured I could at least kill a grey. After pet got it down to about 50% health I guess I healed 1 time too many. It comes up to me and hits me for 800 damage (stuns), then 300 damage, then 756 damage once more. This was a lvl 32 grey con mob.... CAsters die faster in eq2 to low level mobs then a lvl 65 caster would die to a even con on eq1. Heck at the way things are going 1 good barrge from a lvl 50 mob will kill a lvl 50 caster I bet? I really think eq2 needs up up caster mitigation abit. I know we shouldn't be able to tank, but we shouldn't die from 3 hits from a blasted grey!
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