data on bare knucklesFollow

Update:

Just for kicks I fought one fight of each with basic skills to see if there's a significant difference.

Avrg DPS of weapons + skills = 21.4
Avrg DPS of bare hands + skills = 20.1 (but was less consistant on the monitor, making jumps from like 18 to 26 and back)

Skills used: 1) Bruising Strike, 2)[trigger], 3) Focused Strike, 4) Beslin's Posture [HO], repeat 2-4.

It's probably accurate to say then (as others have, and as I've scoffed at) that hard-hitting high-delay weapons actually yield competitive or better DPS while skill-spamming (which us brawlers tend to do). This would go for all classes. It's not conclusive, but I'm a bit more convinced.

I'll definately do that! While I'm nearly lvl 21, I have to go out of town for awhile. But you'll see some numbers on Fiery Fist next week ^_^

My offhand guess is that it'll boost the numbers in favor of using weapons, since more attacks usually means more damage from procs.

Also, I've found the following things interesting:

1) Equipping a dual-wield weapon in the primary only will cause you to attack only with that weapon.
2) Equipping a d/w weapon in the secondary will allow you to use one fist also.
3) Parsing I was doing w/ a good group in FG last night suggests that using one fist and one weapon yeilds slightly higher DPS than dual-wielding or being totally bare-fisted. << When I became the main tank, however, I switched to dual-wield... the stat boosts can make a huge difference to defense >>

I also learned that a trigger-happy warlock is insane dps... made me and the assassin look like we were fighting with wiffle bats LOL.





Edited, Wed Mar 16 17:28:03 2005 by Follier

Little update, as some folks were kind enough to point out, bare hand is not dual wield, although you can equip a weapon in the secondary if you want for stat boosts (though you wont attack with it).

So I'll edit the post a little :)

As far as Fiery Fists, yes it procs with weapons. It doesn't give a neat little message like Thundering Fists does, you just have to watch for the little non-melee numbers to pop up. As I still only have App 1 or 2 it only procs 3% or the time. It seems to proc even less than that, though I may have just missed it. With both weapons and bare hand it only hits once (maybe twice) a fight for me at lvl 22.
Thundering fists, on the other hand, can proc 5-10 times a fight with its 5%... (but then again, I can count the proc messages).

Since it seems that weapons with lower delay don't proc as often as those with high delay (see the scout posts regarding poisons), I'd guess that the rate is about the same with both.

Also it seems to me that while dam/del bare hands does change as you level (I punched for 61 the other day), my weapon skills' dps passed it up by quite a large margin after I dinged 20 (both with and without skill spamming).

And lastly, in case anyone is dying to know, the haste attached to that specced taunt seems to be insignificant. It barely makes up the dps lost from the casting time to use it. I ran numbers (with both weapons and bare hands) first using the taunt/haste and then not, and I couldn't find any noticable differences in the averages at all.


(fought 10 grey ^^ essenses in Wailing Caves for each set of those numbers)



Edited, Mon Mar 28 14:42:13 2005 by Follier