EDIT, im not able to change the subject anymore, i probly shouldnt have said basic things idk :/ lol
im planing on buying everquest2 this week
i played everquest on the ps2 a while back aswell as ffxi
i played them both till i got just under the lvl 50 cap for both games and stoped so i have some exp on online rpgs like this
i was a cleric for everquest and a pally for ffxi
im probly gonna be a tank for eq2 but not 100%sure if i will or which one to be
i wanted to know if anyone can help me with a few things
1 i wanted to know which eq2 game to get. gamestop sells just the game for $25 with some items
http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=644889
and this eq site says that the game costs $50 for the game and some items and a delux box for $90 with alot of items and stuff aswell as a dragon for your house
http://everquest2.station.sony.com/buy/
(the gamestop game for $25 and the other one for $50 are the same game/items, gamestop might just be a typo or something)
what i wanted to know is the delux box realy worth buying for alot more cash?
both give u a map(which i might use) but the items that come with the delux box that are not ingame things i dont care about except maybe the dvd with gameplay videos i might like that
are the ingame items like the statues and the dragon realy worth spending the money on?
2 in the high lvls 50+ what tank would be better (iv read alot of the posts on the subject and most end in ppl fighting, i dont want that) basicly what i want to know about is which holds more hate pally has more hate geting skills and has cures but the gardian does more damage to get hate (i dont care about doing damage i just want to be able to hold the aggro of high lvl mobs like on raids and stuff like that) if they are both about the same then which has more def (as a class) then the other. (if a SK or a berserker does better at keeping agro then both of them w/o to much of a lose in def then plz feel free to post about them aswell)
3 the last thing i wanna know about is race, some ppl say race states dont matter to much some say that realy matter thats not what i wanna talk about. i want to know about there differences in equipment stats and there extra abilitys they get as one race compared to another.
EX i read somewhere that orges(i think it was orges) cant be stuned from the front while being a pally or something like that those are the type of things im talking about
Thankyou anyone who makes a post to try to help me out here
Edited, Sat Feb 26 21:28:46 2005 by Kermet
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i wanted to know which eq2 game to get. gamestop sells just the game for $25 with some items
This is the one to buy , IMO the dragon and delux box isnt worth the extra cash .
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in the high lvls 50+ what tank would be better
Guardian has better taunts and aggro holding abilities hands down .
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the last thing i wanna know about is race
Its more of an astetic choice. Ive never heard of ogres being more vulnerable to stuns from the front. You can do well as any class/race combo because items will even out your stats in the end anyways.The only real deciding factor IMO would be ratial traits you get at the training levels ( you should go through alla's race section to compare and contrast these )
Hope this helps
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thx
i dont remember where i first saw the ability thing i was talking about but i found this a few minutes ago
Will races have certain attributes unique to their race?
Yes. Besides appearance and size, the chief differences among the various player races are starting stats, vision types, languages, and innate resistances. There are no longer inherent racial traits such as increased regeneration for trolls or stun immunity for ogres, although players can select from certain race-specific abilities when they choose their racial Traditions.
from here
http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board?board.id=faq
under Races and Race/Class Combinations its the last paragraph
i dont remember where i first saw the ability thing i was talking about but i found this a few minutes ago
Will races have certain attributes unique to their race?
Yes. Besides appearance and size, the chief differences among the various player races are starting stats, vision types, languages, and innate resistances. There are no longer inherent racial traits such as increased regeneration for trolls or stun immunity for ogres, although players can select from certain race-specific abilities when they choose their racial Traditions.
from here
http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board?board.id=faq
under Races and Race/Class Combinations its the last paragraph
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what do you mean by racial traits? do u mean starting stats?
You get the ability to choose additional stats as you progress through the game but they really don't make a huge difference, just a way to cusomize your toon.
Sounds like you would enjoy playing Guardian as they are the main defensive tank and have many skills to taunt and hold agro, plus defensive buffs for your group.
Highest level you can be so far is 50 but you can bet that will change as time goes by.
Just choose whatever race you fancy but keep in mind that you do have to choose between good and evil as there are only 2 starting cities, Qeynos and Freeport.
There are a lot of players from FFXI and they seem to be enjoying EQ2
Sounds like you would enjoy playing Guardian as they are the main defensive tank and have many skills to taunt and hold agro, plus defensive buffs for your group.
Highest level you can be so far is 50 but you can bet that will change as time goes by.
Just choose whatever race you fancy but keep in mind that you do have to choose between good and evil as there are only 2 starting cities, Qeynos and Freeport.
There are a lot of players from FFXI and they seem to be enjoying EQ2
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i looked at the skill list on this site for guardians and pallys and wrote down the hate gaining skills for them then i looked at this sites lists and added the ones that were not on here to the list
http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/classes/index.vm?classId=3
http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/classes/index.vm?classId=10
guardians have a total of 8 hate skills maybe 9 on this site (there is 1 skill that says Sacrifices offense and slows movement of the guardian to greatly increase the defense and mitigation of the guardian. i think this means more hate) and there are 2 more skills from the other site so 10-11 skills
the pally has a total of 11 skills from this site and 2 more from the other so 15 skills
here are the skills copied right from the lists (sry if they look messy dont want to org. them :/ theres alot more stuff i have to do)
Guardian- ( ? means power ur site doesnt have them marked down)
Name Skill Level Power Cast Recover Recast Description
Shouting Cry Protection 22 ? 1.0 0.5 30.0 Increases hate towards the guardian and lowers the damage of all enemies in an encounter.
Smothering Cry Protection 23 ? 1.0 0.5 30.0 Increases hate towards the guardian and stifles all enemies in an encounter for a short time.
Taunting Challenge Protection 24 ? 1.0 0.5 10.0 Reduces damage slightly while increasing hate with each hit.
Rescue Martial Arts 25 ? 0.0 0.5 1800.0 This ability puts you 1 point higher on the hate list than anybody else. This is an emergency taunt that can rescue a player.
?????(skill i dont know if it counts as +hate)
Dig In Protection 30 ? 2.2 0.5 180.0 Sacrifices offense and slows movement of the guardian to greatly increase the defense and mitigation of the guardian.
Suppress Protection 31 ? 1.0 0.5 8.0 Increases hate towards the guardian and slows the attack frequency of the enemy.
Vengeful Strike Protection 38 ? 1.0 0.5 10.0 Reduces damage slightly while granting increased stamina and hate with each hit.
Taunting Assault protection 44 72 0 An area of effect attack, it generates extra hate with all enemies it strikes
Deafen Protection 45 ? 1.0 0.5 8.0 Increases the hate towards the guardian, slows the attack frequency and deals power damage to the enemy.
next 2 are from the other site
Class Spell Name Skill Level Power Cost Concentration Description
Guardian Taunting Challenge protection 24.6 18 0 Reduces damage slightly while increasing hate with each hit.
Guardian Protect protection 50 50 0 Greatly increases hate towards the guardian from all enemies in an encounter.
Paladin-
Name Skill Level Power Cast Recover Recast Description
Blinding Light Determined Faith 22 ? 1.0 0.5 30.0 Increases hate towards the paladin and reduces divine resistance to all enemies in an encounter.
Smite Prayer Determined Faith 23 ? 1.0 0.5 30.0 Increases hate towards the paladin and decreases the divine resistance of all enemies in an encounter.
Rescue Determined Faith 25 ? 0.0 0.5 1800.0 This ability puts you 1 point higher on the hate list than anybody else. This is an emergency taunt that can rescue a player.
Faithful Zeal Determined Faith 26 ? 1.0 0.5 15.0 Wards a target group member and increase the paladin's hate generation.
Shining Beacon Determined Faith 30 ? 2.2 0.5 180.0 Sacrifices offense for increased defense and hate.
Noble Tone Determined Faith 31 ? 1.0 0.5 8.0 Unresistable hate increase towards the paladin.
Call to Glory Determined Faith 37 ? 2.0 0.5 30.0 Increases the offense of the group, transfers some of the group hate, and increases the damage of the paladin.
Devout Sacrament Determined Faith 40 ? 3.0 0.5 300.0 Wards a target group member and increases the paladin's hate generation.
Display of Devotion Determined Faith 40 ? 1.0 0.5 15.0 Wards a target group member, and increases the paladin's hate generation.
Courageous Dash Determined Faith 41 ? 0.6 0.5 30.0 Requires a shield. Stuns the enemy and slightly increases hate towards the paladin
Clarion Call Determined Faith 45 ? 1.0 0.5 8.0 Unresistable, longer range hate increasing combat art.
Holy Symbol Determined Faith 49 ? 3.0 0.5 30.0 A multi-enemy crushing attack that increases hate towards the paladin.
Class Spell Name Skill Level Power Cost Concentration Description
these 2 are from the other site
Divine Inspiration determined faith 23 53 0 Increases the offense of the group and transfers hate from all members to the paladin.
Zealous Preaching determined faith 50 25 0 Increases hate towards the paladin from all enemies in an encounter for a low power cost.
both have good def boosts
both have atk/str boosts but G has more (P has only a few)
i didnt look at there dmg skills
as u all know P has healing spells to get more hate
but the G does more dps
did u have this info when u said guardian is the best tank for high lvls?
unless i find some info b4 i hit lvl 20 i think im going to be a
pally
do you know the stats G/P gain each lvl?
i would still like your opp on what you think about the better tank
(sorry for making such a big post)
Edited, Sun Feb 27 05:33:45 2005 by Kermet
http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/classes/index.vm?classId=3
http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/classes/index.vm?classId=10
guardians have a total of 8 hate skills maybe 9 on this site (there is 1 skill that says Sacrifices offense and slows movement of the guardian to greatly increase the defense and mitigation of the guardian. i think this means more hate) and there are 2 more skills from the other site so 10-11 skills
the pally has a total of 11 skills from this site and 2 more from the other so 15 skills
here are the skills copied right from the lists (sry if they look messy dont want to org. them :/ theres alot more stuff i have to do)
Guardian- ( ? means power ur site doesnt have them marked down)
Name Skill Level Power Cast Recover Recast Description
Shouting Cry Protection 22 ? 1.0 0.5 30.0 Increases hate towards the guardian and lowers the damage of all enemies in an encounter.
Smothering Cry Protection 23 ? 1.0 0.5 30.0 Increases hate towards the guardian and stifles all enemies in an encounter for a short time.
Taunting Challenge Protection 24 ? 1.0 0.5 10.0 Reduces damage slightly while increasing hate with each hit.
Rescue Martial Arts 25 ? 0.0 0.5 1800.0 This ability puts you 1 point higher on the hate list than anybody else. This is an emergency taunt that can rescue a player.
?????(skill i dont know if it counts as +hate)
Dig In Protection 30 ? 2.2 0.5 180.0 Sacrifices offense and slows movement of the guardian to greatly increase the defense and mitigation of the guardian.
Suppress Protection 31 ? 1.0 0.5 8.0 Increases hate towards the guardian and slows the attack frequency of the enemy.
Vengeful Strike Protection 38 ? 1.0 0.5 10.0 Reduces damage slightly while granting increased stamina and hate with each hit.
Taunting Assault protection 44 72 0 An area of effect attack, it generates extra hate with all enemies it strikes
Deafen Protection 45 ? 1.0 0.5 8.0 Increases the hate towards the guardian, slows the attack frequency and deals power damage to the enemy.
next 2 are from the other site
Class Spell Name Skill Level Power Cost Concentration Description
Guardian Taunting Challenge protection 24.6 18 0 Reduces damage slightly while increasing hate with each hit.
Guardian Protect protection 50 50 0 Greatly increases hate towards the guardian from all enemies in an encounter.
Paladin-
Name Skill Level Power Cast Recover Recast Description
Blinding Light Determined Faith 22 ? 1.0 0.5 30.0 Increases hate towards the paladin and reduces divine resistance to all enemies in an encounter.
Smite Prayer Determined Faith 23 ? 1.0 0.5 30.0 Increases hate towards the paladin and decreases the divine resistance of all enemies in an encounter.
Rescue Determined Faith 25 ? 0.0 0.5 1800.0 This ability puts you 1 point higher on the hate list than anybody else. This is an emergency taunt that can rescue a player.
Faithful Zeal Determined Faith 26 ? 1.0 0.5 15.0 Wards a target group member and increase the paladin's hate generation.
Shining Beacon Determined Faith 30 ? 2.2 0.5 180.0 Sacrifices offense for increased defense and hate.
Noble Tone Determined Faith 31 ? 1.0 0.5 8.0 Unresistable hate increase towards the paladin.
Call to Glory Determined Faith 37 ? 2.0 0.5 30.0 Increases the offense of the group, transfers some of the group hate, and increases the damage of the paladin.
Devout Sacrament Determined Faith 40 ? 3.0 0.5 300.0 Wards a target group member and increases the paladin's hate generation.
Display of Devotion Determined Faith 40 ? 1.0 0.5 15.0 Wards a target group member, and increases the paladin's hate generation.
Courageous Dash Determined Faith 41 ? 0.6 0.5 30.0 Requires a shield. Stuns the enemy and slightly increases hate towards the paladin
Clarion Call Determined Faith 45 ? 1.0 0.5 8.0 Unresistable, longer range hate increasing combat art.
Holy Symbol Determined Faith 49 ? 3.0 0.5 30.0 A multi-enemy crushing attack that increases hate towards the paladin.
Class Spell Name Skill Level Power Cost Concentration Description
these 2 are from the other site
Divine Inspiration determined faith 23 53 0 Increases the offense of the group and transfers hate from all members to the paladin.
Zealous Preaching determined faith 50 25 0 Increases hate towards the paladin from all enemies in an encounter for a low power cost.
both have good def boosts
both have atk/str boosts but G has more (P has only a few)
i didnt look at there dmg skills
as u all know P has healing spells to get more hate
but the G does more dps
did u have this info when u said guardian is the best tank for high lvls?
unless i find some info b4 i hit lvl 20 i think im going to be a
pally
do you know the stats G/P gain each lvl?
i would still like your opp on what you think about the better tank
(sorry for making such a big post)
Edited, Sun Feb 27 05:33:45 2005 by Kermet
You'll need to decide before you reach level 10 whether to be a warrior or a crusader.
The thing is, Guardians are designed to be the main tank. Apart from their taunts and defensive abilities, they have greater damage mitigation and can use shields which give an opportunity to block.
Don't get me wrong, Pallies are also great tanks, as are SK's and Berserkers. Pallies probably have better DPS than Guardians, with the Guardian it's all about defensive abilities.
Just choose whatever you feel will be fun for you
The thing is, Guardians are designed to be the main tank. Apart from their taunts and defensive abilities, they have greater damage mitigation and can use shields which give an opportunity to block.
Don't get me wrong, Pallies are also great tanks, as are SK's and Berserkers. Pallies probably have better DPS than Guardians, with the Guardian it's all about defensive abilities.
Just choose whatever you feel will be fun for you
Only possitive thing about the $90 version is people sell those dragon pets for 2pp in game (which is alot of money in Eq2 BTW) It would be a good boast for your finances in game, but Id go with the $25 version.
I sold my Queen Antonia Bayle Statue for 45 gold on my trader, now I might actually afford one of my Adept 3 spells lol.
I sold my Queen Antonia Bayle Statue for 45 gold on my trader, now I might actually afford one of my Adept 3 spells lol.
Hi
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ok i looked atanother site and i saw a post that says as a racial trait some classes get that gives +5 to the defense skill
there was also another about geting +3% max hp i tried to pm him to ask about it but the dame site was messed up ever time i hit pm it asked for my user name and password over and over and over :/
i also found what u said to be what alot of others think to be true
i saw some posts saying that guardians get low dps less then the pally they also get more def a little more hp a better class shield and they get a higher defense skill so they have a higher chance of not geting hit
id still realy like to be a pally because of there higher att and heals but i want to be a mt for raids so i gotta be a guardian im gonna be a barbarian
the one last thing i need to find out is about the 3%hp trait i saw i want to find out what race gets it and how :/
any idea how to get it?
btw ty for helping me
there was also another about geting +3% max hp i tried to pm him to ask about it but the dame site was messed up ever time i hit pm it asked for my user name and password over and over and over :/
i also found what u said to be what alot of others think to be true
i saw some posts saying that guardians get low dps less then the pally they also get more def a little more hp a better class shield and they get a higher defense skill so they have a higher chance of not geting hit
id still realy like to be a pally because of there higher att and heals but i want to be a mt for raids so i gotta be a guardian im gonna be a barbarian
the one last thing i need to find out is about the 3%hp trait i saw i want to find out what race gets it and how :/
any idea how to get it?
btw ty for helping me
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well i bought the game, after i got it i had a war for another game to do so i couldnt play it just yet but after the war i tried to play the game and my damn cd rom wont load it up :/ its sunday so i have to wait till tomarrow till i can buy a dvd rom ='(
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