Anybody else have bad group problems?Follow

What you should/could do is add EVERYONE you find to be a decent or good player, add him to friends list.
Shouldnt be long until you have massive friendslist.
When you do have that you have 2 options.

Option No1.
Start your own group. Send tell to people on your friendlist that you know are atleast decent players and set up a group. Remember a good group dont have to have 6 players. Most of the time 6 players equells more screwups. So just get a tank, healer and some dps and start playing and from then on you can continue filling your group while xping/questing.
Also, I dont care what anyone says, a good group might only need one healer but a great group has 2.

Option No2.
Send tells to people that are on your friendslist and ask if they have room for you.

And also joining a guild should help. Dont be fooled, most guilds have bad players but it should fill your friends list faster.

I never have a problem with sucky groups theese days. Im a fury and my brother is a shammy and my girlfriend is a guardian. We allways have the foundation of a good group right there. We start heading to, say for example, feerrott and I got my g/f on autofollow while sending tells to people on friendslist.
When we are in feerrott we start hunting just the 3 of us til the friends catch up. Works like a charm. :)

Hope I helped some.

alas yes.. the only character I've truly grouped with more than any other is my assassin (predator at the time) and every time I group with her I log off with debt..

highest debt to date upon logging off: 168%
reason for debt: group in Fallen Gate

I solo a lot these days....

Edited, Wed Feb 23 08:30:39 2005 by Iaini

Of course the big problem here is experience debt for group death. While you can mitigate your personal debt through resurrection and shard absorbtion, it doesnt mitigate others group debt. In addition you receive debt while dead but gain no experience from group kills whill dead. Its better to eat a shard death the attempt any rescues at all. Exploring new areas is not feasible because its simply too dangerous. The boring day in day out grind has been fine tuned to an art by EQ2. All and all poor design by EQ2. EQ2 is a game that requires grouping more then ever yet has the largest disincentive to group in any game. That combined with the incredible lag, sparse player population, and incredable drudgery of gameplay make it a true step bacward for EQ. World Of Warcraft is truely the MMRPG of the future!

Disbanding before being wiped out sounds like a great idea. I'll have to give that a try.

Great Grouping Guide here.

Hate those bad groups, but you don't know until you get in. It's good to make helpful suggestions for improvement, i.e. pull one group at a time, tank taunts, don't go harvesting during a fight, etc...

If there is still no resolution, look for a replacement and announce you must leave. The wise and mature members of that group will remember your cool head and may catch up with you later asking to join you.

Bad Group Story: Joined a group in southwest TS hunting giants. Camp was on a finger of land between wandering skeletons, safe as long as you stayed still. After a bit, the tank had to leave, and we picked up a SK tank. After a few fights, there were some minor disagreements within the group. While everyone was medding from OOM, the SK agro'd a yellow^^ onto us and ran away, leaving us to die.

Yea, he was a jerk and became a member of my ignore list, but we all recovered, and lived to join other groups.

I've accepted that death is part of EQ2 life, although I'd rather die less than more. :)

I could not have said this any better - /agree 100%.

Unfortunately, most pickup groups do end pretty badly. In my experience, I would say somewhere in the neighborhood of 75% of them, maybe more. This is discouraging, however over time you can do things to reduce your bad pickup groups.

Learn the players on your server. As people have mentioned, the friends list and ignore list are great for this. Anytime your in a good group with a good leader, put him on your friends list. Maybe even make a hand written list with some comments. If you get in a bad group, and you can figure out who screwed things up.. put them on ignore.

Already mentioned, but a great point: Never join a group unless your standing next to them. Also, if your the group leader, never invite someone unless they are standing next to you. Either of those is an invitation to unsolicited debt, which usually means a group breakup.

Another suggestion would be to start with small groups (3-4 players, or even duo with someone). Start slow, with lower level cons (green-blue) and work your way up. Let the group get some time to get going before jumping into the hard mobs.

Well i think i didnt knock on wood b4 my last post on this thread.
Last night im in FG with my LFG flag up and i get a tell asking me if i want to join a TS group .
So im game , even though its a lil bit of a run .
So when i finally zone into TS , i get the invite immediately and like a dumbarse , i join em (mainly so i could find em easier), and of course , group wipe , theres 9% debt right there . Then another , bam 15% debt and i havent even made it to them yet ... was my own fault for joining up b4 i was actually with em . Lesson re-learned lol

Wow, where do you get this stuff from? 2 healers in a group are mandatory? Say what? 3 hours minimum is mandatory? Huh?

Not sure what game you are playing but it ain't EQ2.

I admit to having the advantage of having someone to duo with, but my tank and her healer can take on a ton of stuff, just the two of us. Giants, gnolls, griffins, almost any double green arrow mob is doable for us. We don't need 2 healers, we don't even need other people.

When we group with more people, it just means we can do harder stuff, and we can do it faster. Sometimes she's the only healer, sometimes we have a second healer. Yes, absolutely, a second healer makes life easier, but its not required by any means.

1 healer? Absolutely, you need one healer, or you are fairly limited in what you can do. Basically limited to mobs you can do while being healed by a paladin (me). But still, I can solo when my duo partner isn't on. My friend's wizard solo'd way beyond my level, easily.

As far as time, I can log in for an hour. Or even 30 minutes, advance a couple of quests, and log out. If I'm going to group up with my friends or guildmates, I will definitely want to dedicate 2 hours or more, but even then, sometimes I hook up with them for 30 minutes and then leave. I have the courtesy to tell them ahead of time.

I realize you hate EQ2 and have to find reasons for hating it, Shadowrelm, but that doesn't mean you should be spreading false information.

I suppose if you made no friends in the game whatsoever and always had to go lfg, and gated after every session so you had to run back to the adventure zone of your choice every single time, then yeah 3 hours might be required. But if you are slightly intelligent about making sure you are set up for several sessions, and stay in the zone of choice (say TS or whatever), if you make some friends or join a guild so you can at least occasionally get a fast group, I just don't see this as an issue.

Even if you do exclusively pickup groups, if you put in the effort to form your own groups and think outside the box (meaning, don't assume you require 2 healers, its just not true, don't assume you HAVE TO have a tank and healer in order to do stuff, don't assume that a group of 4 rangers and a healer and a wizard can't do anything), if you put a minimal amount of effort in, you can play for an hour and stop.

Literally do a shout "forming a short term group, about an hour long from the time we form. We will be killing x (giants, griffins, whatever) and are meeting up at x location (griffin field, whatever). PST if you are interested in this group, you will be invited when you get here, but pst to reserve a spot"

Showing people that you are organized, goal oriented, etc etc, that you will run a decent group and that they won't get the usual xp debt before they ever get there.

You'd be suprised how effective it is.

Don't get me wrong, if WOW is even more casual friendly, great. If you enjoy it more, great. But please don't keep writing false "information" about EQ2 just to make yourself feel better about your choices. If you like WOW better, then play it, have a good time. I haven't even tried WOW because I'm still having a lot of fun with EQ2, and I get real tired of these "omg you can't solo, you can't group for less than 3 hours, you can't even find a group, omg this game sucks" type posts.

Maybe it isn't the game.