- Forums
- EverQuest II
- General Discussion
- New system will now play WOW
New system will now play WOWFollow
5 posts
This attunable stuff is pretty cs. Just bought a dell xps gen4 to play eqII. Now I will purchase WOW for it and leave the collectors edition eqII alone
I feel your pain. I’m not ready to leave yet, however I totally understand where you’re coming from. The new patch was designed to help the crafters out, however it has really negatively affected the pure adventuring classes. I have more levels in total with crafting that I do in adventuring (see sig). I for one agree with the trying to get crafting items flowing more but it was taken too far.
Reading the E2 forums I’ve seen a great deal of people upset and quitting. Although I applaud their effort on trying to improve the game for the few they affected the majority.
Reading the E2 forums I’ve seen a great deal of people upset and quitting. Although I applaud their effort on trying to improve the game for the few they affected the majority.
Scholar
33 posts
Why go for WoW if you do not like attuned stuff? Good equipment in WoW is soulbound (=attunable), can't be used by another character after you equipped it.
I play as a pure adventurer and this is just a pain.
Now when i buy some crafted stuff to equip, i have to attune it wich means i cant sell it back to the market to replenish my money flow, wich means alot more time trying to hunt for some decant loot.
I wont quit over it yet, its not that huge of a problem, but i dont like ti at all
Now when i buy some crafted stuff to equip, i have to attune it wich means i cant sell it back to the market to replenish my money flow, wich means alot more time trying to hunt for some decant loot.
I wont quit over it yet, its not that huge of a problem, but i dont like ti at all
can i have your stuff?
/hide :P
Edited, Sun Feb 20 01:32:34 2005 by bukholt
/hide :P
Edited, Sun Feb 20 01:32:34 2005 by bukholt
Drennin wrote:
This attunable stuff is pretty cs. Just bought a dell xps gen4 to play eqII. Now I will purchase WOW for it and leave the collectors edition eqII alone
ROFL!!!!
I wish I could be a fly on the wall when you get to WoW and learn that everything you care about is "attuneable". Because...well...that would be pretty funny to watch, wouldn't it?
:)
Shadowrelm I have to wonder if you're in a guild. One thing I'll say about EQ2, it does make a huge difference to be in a good guild.
1 post
As having played WoW for about 2 months now (I have a lvl 60 mage), I just left WoW and picked up EQ2 due to the fact that the end game content is HORRIBLE! (very tedious repetition of the same two instances is just about the only thing to do) I don't know how EQ2 compares, but so far I really enjoy EQ2 more. And yes, 99% of any good equipment in WoW is either "Bind on pickup" or "Bind of equip" - meaning once you pick it up, or wear it, you can only disenchant it or sell it to a vendor. From what I've seen, at least EQ2 gives you a chance to attune something... But as I said, I just started playing EQ2 and I'm really excited about it.
Edited, Sun Feb 20 21:45:39 2005 by thyno
Edited, Sun Feb 20 21:45:39 2005 by thyno
I love EQ2 so far I dont know what the point in giving WoW a shot is considering this game has so much to offer.
honestly I don't see the issue with all the attuneable stuff... unless you're trying to twink a lower level character or two.
if you are, then just buy or make two sets of the item and be done with it... if you have a decently leveled adventuring class making money to equip a lower level character of yours is not that hard.
if you are, then just buy or make two sets of the item and be done with it... if you have a decently leveled adventuring class making money to equip a lower level character of yours is not that hard.
ofcourse quests only give little xp at lvl 30+.. How fun would it be if you progressed as fast from lvl 30 to lvl 40 as you did from lvl 1 to lvl 10?
Do you have a clue on how much content and quest you would miss if you got 5% xp per quest at lvl 30?
I still earn all my xp from questing (and some exploring) at lvl 38. Havent done a single grind so far!
As they say:
Its not the goal, its the journey
And for me (this far) its been one helluva fun journey and from what I hear for my friends the game doesnt even compare to the fun at lvl 40+!
Cant wait!
Edited, Mon Feb 21 10:08:22 2005 by BumbiRagnar
Do you have a clue on how much content and quest you would miss if you got 5% xp per quest at lvl 30?
I still earn all my xp from questing (and some exploring) at lvl 38. Havent done a single grind so far!
As they say:
Its not the goal, its the journey
And for me (this far) its been one helluva fun journey and from what I hear for my friends the game doesnt even compare to the fun at lvl 40+!
Cant wait!
Edited, Mon Feb 21 10:08:22 2005 by BumbiRagnar
I have never had a problem getting a group in EQ2, and have made it to 31L as a SK. I find the game 1000X more fun then EQ ever was due to the fact there is NO soloing in EQ. And well WoW what can u say there is the carrot on the stick game if there ever was one pluse the fact it looks 10 years old already.
I say if you have problems getting a group then maybe you should look at what server you are on first, if thats not the problem maybe its the hours you play. If thats not it maybe you? Not trying to be mean but if your play style clash's with others you could find yourself on the ignore list maybe? Just a thought after all I don't know you at all. All I know is I have never had problems getting a group, and yes belonging to a good guild helps tons.
As for the atuneable stuff well really the only thing it hurts is the twinking. All my gear is quest or droped so I payed nothing for it and well you can sell it to the vender for some cash when you are done with it. If you want cash for it sell it don't wear it.
I guess no matter what sony trys to fix there will be some one who don't like but then thats life :)
I say if you have problems getting a group then maybe you should look at what server you are on first, if thats not the problem maybe its the hours you play. If thats not it maybe you? Not trying to be mean but if your play style clash's with others you could find yourself on the ignore list maybe? Just a thought after all I don't know you at all. All I know is I have never had problems getting a group, and yes belonging to a good guild helps tons.
As for the atuneable stuff well really the only thing it hurts is the twinking. All my gear is quest or droped so I payed nothing for it and well you can sell it to the vender for some cash when you are done with it. If you want cash for it sell it don't wear it.
I guess no matter what sony trys to fix there will be some one who don't like but then thats life :)
5 posts
I keep active accounts on both games, for the occasional change of pace.
The fact that WoW's equip is soul-bound isn't as relevant as in EQ. I'ts easier and cheaper to keep your equipment updated and usefull in WoW. Not only that, in addition to my own gear I always seem to have plenty to share and sell. I feel like I get a very nice flow of usefull equipment from the quests. EQ2 isn't like that, I am way behind in equipment.
I never really understood why people bust on WoW's graphics so hard. Photo-realistic doesn't equal better. We all have those favorite games from the past that we go back to every once in a while - not because the graphics were awesome - but because the game was fun. Wow got a lot of things right and, well it's fun. EQ2 got some things right too...but the fun factor is diminished by the little things that people whine about here on the boards all the time. One of my favorite things about Wow is the incredible variety of starting locations. Something EQ used to have. The isle of refuge ... sigh... booooooring. Want to start a new character? ready to redo all the same quests in freeport or queynos? all 400 of them?
Someone above complained about nothing to do at lvl 60 and the first thing I thought of was PvP. Nothing makes my blood rush like coming around a corner and running into the enemy, and its another player - theres a pause, each waiting to see what the other does.... and then the fight is on. I also really like the way being lvl 60 doesn't mean your invincible. A group of people half your lvl can still get your goat.
I'm certainly not trying to start a fire... people like different things. If your having a blast in EQ2, Great! If your not having as much fun as you thought you would... try something else.
I got EQ2 at release. I keep coming back to see how things are going, honestly wishing I could find that magical wonder that EQ1 gave me that first 6 months. I cant find it though. I keep getting bogged down with EQ2's complexity - I hope an MMO comes out soon that takes all the numbers and distractions away and just focuses on immersion.
I actually tried city of heroes recently and was really surprised. I thought a superhero MMOG would be ... gay .... but it was actually a blast and the girlfriend loved it so much I had to buy another account. I am amazed at how freakishly addicted she has become.
Anyway, good luck finding something you enjoy.
P.S. other things I liked about Wow:
- biggest guild raids I've ever seen - period. We had 5 guilds raid enemy territory and the number of people on screen was astonishing(Wow's graphical simplicity made that possible).
- Interesting and unique quests along with so many quizical references to real world literature and characters.
- OMG the Auction house and email!
whew, I'm babbling now...back to EQ2 for now.
The fact that WoW's equip is soul-bound isn't as relevant as in EQ. I'ts easier and cheaper to keep your equipment updated and usefull in WoW. Not only that, in addition to my own gear I always seem to have plenty to share and sell. I feel like I get a very nice flow of usefull equipment from the quests. EQ2 isn't like that, I am way behind in equipment.
I never really understood why people bust on WoW's graphics so hard. Photo-realistic doesn't equal better. We all have those favorite games from the past that we go back to every once in a while - not because the graphics were awesome - but because the game was fun. Wow got a lot of things right and, well it's fun. EQ2 got some things right too...but the fun factor is diminished by the little things that people whine about here on the boards all the time. One of my favorite things about Wow is the incredible variety of starting locations. Something EQ used to have. The isle of refuge ... sigh... booooooring. Want to start a new character? ready to redo all the same quests in freeport or queynos? all 400 of them?
Someone above complained about nothing to do at lvl 60 and the first thing I thought of was PvP. Nothing makes my blood rush like coming around a corner and running into the enemy, and its another player - theres a pause, each waiting to see what the other does.... and then the fight is on. I also really like the way being lvl 60 doesn't mean your invincible. A group of people half your lvl can still get your goat.
I'm certainly not trying to start a fire... people like different things. If your having a blast in EQ2, Great! If your not having as much fun as you thought you would... try something else.
I got EQ2 at release. I keep coming back to see how things are going, honestly wishing I could find that magical wonder that EQ1 gave me that first 6 months. I cant find it though. I keep getting bogged down with EQ2's complexity - I hope an MMO comes out soon that takes all the numbers and distractions away and just focuses on immersion.
I actually tried city of heroes recently and was really surprised. I thought a superhero MMOG would be ... gay .... but it was actually a blast and the girlfriend loved it so much I had to buy another account. I am amazed at how freakishly addicted she has become.
Anyway, good luck finding something you enjoy.
P.S. other things I liked about Wow:
- biggest guild raids I've ever seen - period. We had 5 guilds raid enemy territory and the number of people on screen was astonishing(Wow's graphical simplicity made that possible).
- Interesting and unique quests along with so many quizical references to real world literature and characters.
- OMG the Auction house and email!
whew, I'm babbling now...back to EQ2 for now.
prolly nitpicking here but i saw this line:
and i have to disagree, there is plenty of room for soloing in eq (dependent on class of course) and i soloed the best part of 70 levels and 200ish AAs with my druid =p
Quote:
I find the game 1000X more fun then EQ ever was due to the fact there is NO soloing in EQ.
and i have to disagree, there is plenty of room for soloing in eq (dependent on class of course) and i soloed the best part of 70 levels and 200ish AAs with my druid =p
edited thusly
Edited, Mon Feb 21 16:01:51 2005 by Iaini
Edited, Mon Feb 21 16:01:51 2005 by Iaini
Ok... I see the sig and you have me baffled. I don't see where you soloed any EQ1 chars.
He was saying that EQ2 is 1000x more fun than EQ1 for him (or her, whatever) because EQ2 has more solo content than EQ1.
Might want to re-read the post you responded to. :)
He was saying that EQ2 is 1000x more fun than EQ1 for him (or her, whatever) because EQ2 has more solo content than EQ1.
Might want to re-read the post you responded to. :)
37 posts
I am also thinking about giving WOW a shot I think its worth a shot cause with every dam patch that comes out in EQ2 it just gets worse I have to attune all my stuff now what in gods name is the purpose for attuning crafted stuff? I am still trying to understand it I cant even pass my stuff down to my lower toons its seems a little one sided there like for the crafters side crafting blows I personaly dont like it but oh well now all that **** I paid way high prices for in the first price I have to sell back when I upgrade and for the love of god do you actually think I get any where near the money back that I paid YA RIGHT! oh and all the horses what a joke that is! if they intended it to be the way it is now why the hell did they make them the speed they were in the first place and honestly can any one give me a good answer as to why they changed it other than I am a jealous *** over you and that your horse is cool and can run at a good speed and I picked a class that doesnt have it and so your spell should suck? that last patch was the biggest joke I have seen in any video game I have played. Sig heil to the nerf ****'s and there inteligence. My main concern is how do you talk to a company that could care less about you their mentality is your one person we dont need you blow off cause thats what I have seen so far even their forums blow the mod's over there are even bigger ****'s than the dev's its a kinder gentler forum the furror has spoken over there!
the truth will hurt most people unfortunately we live in a world where bleeding hearts try to reighn supreme avoid the truth and just smile.
Edited, Tue Feb 22 15:58:10 2005 by SKdude
the truth will hurt most people unfortunately we live in a world where bleeding hearts try to reighn supreme avoid the truth and just smile.
Edited, Tue Feb 22 15:58:10 2005 by SKdude
Quote:
and i have to disagree, there is plenty of room for soloing in eq (dependent on class of course) and i soloed the best part of 70 levels and 200ish AAs with my druid =p
Ok hows this go solo your warrior up too 70L get back to us on what happens there sport :)
you can sell soulbound items to vendors on wow
Scholar
42 posts
You can sell attuned items to vendors in EQ2... /boggle
I think the whole idea of the new patch was to encourage crafting, so say you have a lv 30 adventuring class, you are expected to have at least a lv 30 crafter to support it. Personally I have several alts with tier 3 ablitlites in crafting and adventuring and have been having a blast with it. Made some weapons for my zerk at a cost of oh, about 3s each, made a shield for my templar for about the same, sold some stacks of tempers and resins for a few gold, you get the point. Still spent a few gold getting jewlery for the templar, because i passed his previous stuff to the zerk lol, but hey I want to support my fellow crafters.
Don't expect to walk through the game without having to put some effort into making money, heck I am an ex-FFXIer so you can see what a difference the willingness to put in effort makes.
Adventure. Craft. Sell. Buy. Repeat.
I think the whole idea of the new patch was to encourage crafting, so say you have a lv 30 adventuring class, you are expected to have at least a lv 30 crafter to support it. Personally I have several alts with tier 3 ablitlites in crafting and adventuring and have been having a blast with it. Made some weapons for my zerk at a cost of oh, about 3s each, made a shield for my templar for about the same, sold some stacks of tempers and resins for a few gold, you get the point. Still spent a few gold getting jewlery for the templar, because i passed his previous stuff to the zerk lol, but hey I want to support my fellow crafters.
Don't expect to walk through the game without having to put some effort into making money, heck I am an ex-FFXIer so you can see what a difference the willingness to put in effort makes.
Adventure. Craft. Sell. Buy. Repeat.
Quote:
I think the whole idea of the new patch was to encourage crafting, so say you have a lv 30 adventuring class, you are expected to have at least a lv 30 crafter to support it.
Well that certainly isn't the way they sold the game.
It was sold as being able to progress via adventuring or crafting. Many people don't like crafting much. The game should not expect you to want to craft - especially in the EQ2 crafting system. It is probably great fun for people who enjoy tradeskilling.
I always play my alts as a fairly close family and they wear each other's cast-offs when the senior members get better stuff. When my Shaman turned 20 he inherited some crafted chain from my ranger who had moved on to AQ stuff. This is now totally blocked to artificially promote a market in crafted items. It will not do so.
They seem to be continually tweaking the game because people are finding it more fun to play it their own way than the way SoE intended. This will only serve to drive people away.
Wherever I go - there I am.
Quote:
They seem to be continually tweaking the game because people are finding it more fun to play it their own way than the way SoE intended. This will only serve to drive people away.
/agree
With every patch SOE implemented I found EQ2 to be less and less like the game I originally bought. It's not that I can't handle change but these changes must be changes for the sake of improving gameplay. There are some good changes and some bad changes and I admit it happens in every MMO out there. But in EQ2's case the bad outweighs the good IMO. SOE wanna control the economy such that it wouldn't go crazy like SWG's one, but the problem is that it takes away many players' fun including mine. Their intention is good but does an end justify means? I mean what's the good of a stable and balanced economy if the game isn't fun anymore? SOE must put more effort and creativity into the game instead of going the easy way to solve every problem.
Edited, Wed Feb 23 05:44:39 2005 by kanonyuki
Scholar
47 posts
This is just another WoW vs. EQ2 thread. They're always the longest because people like to beat this horse into the ground.
Here is a break down of both games from someone (me) who tried both games at low, mid, and high levels. Keep in mind I had no bias either...I enjoyed Diablo 2 and the Warcraft series just as much as Everquest.
Everquest 2 vs. World of Warcraft
Graphics - EQ2
Gameplay - EQ2
Music/Sound - EQ2
Group Content - EQ2
Solo Content - WoW
End Game - EQ2
Tradeskill System - EQ2
Friendly Player Base - EQ2
Economy - EQ2
Quests - EQ2
Housing - EQ2
Lore - Even
Immersion - Even
Customization - EQ2
Congratulations! You have gained a new level in reviewing MMO's.
If you are a casual or impatient gamer who demands instant gratification then play World of Warcraft. The quests are not as involved and it's really easy to do stuff...even if you don't have a group. If you want a sense of accomplishment and have lots of time to play go EQ2. I don't care what Sony says...this game requires alot of time to do stuff.
If you are a diehard PvPer play WoW. I absolutley LOVE PvP. I played on a PvP server in the original EverQuest. I was hoping WoW was going to be the better game just so I could play PvP. Unforuntley I couldn't get over all the other things and that is why I play EQ2.
If you think both games stink you aren't alone. Brad McQuaid and the old Verant team now work for Sigil games and are in the process of developing a new MMO called Vanguard. You can see the official website at http://www.vanguardsoh.com
Here is a break down of both games from someone (me) who tried both games at low, mid, and high levels. Keep in mind I had no bias either...I enjoyed Diablo 2 and the Warcraft series just as much as Everquest.
Everquest 2 vs. World of Warcraft
Graphics - EQ2
Gameplay - EQ2
Music/Sound - EQ2
Group Content - EQ2
Solo Content - WoW
End Game - EQ2
Tradeskill System - EQ2
Friendly Player Base - EQ2
Economy - EQ2
Quests - EQ2
Housing - EQ2
Lore - Even
Immersion - Even
Customization - EQ2
Congratulations! You have gained a new level in reviewing MMO's.
If you are a casual or impatient gamer who demands instant gratification then play World of Warcraft. The quests are not as involved and it's really easy to do stuff...even if you don't have a group. If you want a sense of accomplishment and have lots of time to play go EQ2. I don't care what Sony says...this game requires alot of time to do stuff.
If you are a diehard PvPer play WoW. I absolutley LOVE PvP. I played on a PvP server in the original EverQuest. I was hoping WoW was going to be the better game just so I could play PvP. Unforuntley I couldn't get over all the other things and that is why I play EQ2.
If you think both games stink you aren't alone. Brad McQuaid and the old Verant team now work for Sigil games and are in the process of developing a new MMO called Vanguard. You can see the official website at http://www.vanguardsoh.com
I also want to add that I belive with all of my heart that EQ2 has ALOT more potentiall then any other game.
EQ2 has to grow with expansions, endgame content etc. All MMO's need to mature before they become great imo. SoE has experience and I think PvP will be added since it will suit the lore off evil / good, freeport / qeynos.
IMO atm:
EQ > EQ2 >>> WoW
I do think that in 1 or 2 years though:
EQ2 >>> WoW / EQ
Deviana is right in her post but I dont really agree that you need to put in ALOT of time in EQ2 to accomplish anything. You do need to put in ALOT of time to reach lvl 50 though, I give you that. But that should not be the focus for everyone. This game has great content at all levels.
My focus is reaching 50 as fast as possible but at the same time not miss any content. Im having very fun every day when I play.
EQ2 has to grow with expansions, endgame content etc. All MMO's need to mature before they become great imo. SoE has experience and I think PvP will be added since it will suit the lore off evil / good, freeport / qeynos.
IMO atm:
EQ > EQ2 >>> WoW
I do think that in 1 or 2 years though:
EQ2 >>> WoW / EQ
Deviana is right in her post but I dont really agree that you need to put in ALOT of time in EQ2 to accomplish anything. You do need to put in ALOT of time to reach lvl 50 though, I give you that. But that should not be the focus for everyone. This game has great content at all levels.
My focus is reaching 50 as fast as possible but at the same time not miss any content. Im having very fun every day when I play.
Recent Visitors: 167
All times are in CST
Anonymous Guests (167)
- Forums
- EverQuest II
- General Discussion
- New system will now play WOW
© 2024 Fanbyte LLC