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#1 Feb 13 2005 at 4:27 PM Rating: Decent
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About four years ago I was using a 21" CRT monitor for all of my gaming. At that time, my partner ordered a 19" flat screen LCD monitor for himself, but I begged off on getting one for myself, figuring that I could never go down in monitor size and remain satisfied. When I saw the improved picture quality of his monitor, however, I immediately ordered my own, and it's the faithful monitor I have been using ever since. Its max resolution is 1280 x 1024.

It's now four years later and I'd like something bigger. I figure the technology must be better now, right? So I've looked online for some bigger LCD or plasma monitors and I just can't figure anything out. I'm hoping someone using something bigger can help me! I'd really love something 30" - 40".

First off, is there really an issue associated with screen burn on plasma monitors? Or is that a bunch of BS perpetuated by the people trying to unload their LCD & CRT monitors? I mean, I can play EQ2 for many hours at a time, and all the little windows around the edges of the screen are always in the exact same place.

Second, does it make any difference if the vendor refers to the item as a "monitor" vs. a "TV"? Or nowadays is it pretty much the same thing?

Third, and probably most importantly, what's up with the low max resolutions on the bigger screens? I can't find anything bigger than like 21" that has a max resolution even as high as this four-year-old monitor I'm using now. Is it the case that you don't need a high resolution on a bigger screen? That just doesn't make sense to me; it seems counterintuitive, but what do I know.

Fourth, is it worth getting a monitor with the wider aspect ratio like the HDTVs? Or would I just wind up playing my games with wide bars of nothingness on the sides?

Many thanks in advance to anyone willing to help me with this stuff.
#2 Feb 14 2005 at 6:04 AM Rating: Decent
Y'see...I only have a crappy 17'' monitor that i have had for 4 years. Your post just makes me feel bad for myself :P

Please contact me for a postal address to which you can send all 21'' cast-offs!

That said...I can sort of answer one of your queries. I have a Dell laptop with a screen that is has a higher width/height ratio than is normal. EQ2 can fill this screen no worries and gives a rather strange widescreen effect for a game. When i set the resolution in game it gives all the wierd and wonderful options I normally get with my laptop monitor.

Cheers

Minky
#3 Feb 14 2005 at 3:16 PM Rating: Decent
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Let me try to answer:
1. Don't know, but screen burn is real. Ever seen a TV that couldn't get rid of "CH 3" in the top corner?
2. Monitors can handle the more intense signal of computer graphics. TV's cannot.
3. The same resolution on a bigger screen would look more "grainy". Same amount of pixels spread over a larger area. You can buy high-end monitors that go to higher settings, but you will pay a high-end price for it ($600+). Capability, not size, determines the graphics ability.
4. An HDTV picture requires an HDTV signal. If there is no HD signal, you have a picture no different that a normal TV. Some cable companies advertise special HDTV channels.

Upgrading my old broken TV to something new, I shopped a bit. Was going to buy a plasma until I noticed a slight "wavering" along some video edges that was a bit unerving. I settled for a 36" CRT HDTV. I haven't paid for HD channels, so the picture is pretty normal. Someday I may...

If you spend lots of time playing, staring at a computer monitor, imagine what would happen to stare at a plasma screen.
They are VERY bright, and you might not want to subject your eyes to that.

Also consider your field of view and visible icons. The closer you sit to a large screen, the bigger your field of view (head bobbing and weaving). This may be good for a shooter game like Halo where you have to focus on a distant target. However as you know in EQ2 there are many bars, buttons, chat windows, icons, quest logs, etc. to watch and use. The further you sit away from the screen, the smaller the bars, windows, and icons become.

Maybe borrow a friends larger screen and test it for a bit, see it it suits you.
Or go to a retail store and sit in front of a plasma, at the expected distance you would normally play.

Good luck!
#4 Feb 14 2005 at 4:01 PM Rating: Decent
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...is there really an issue associated with screen burn on plasma monitors? Or is that a bunch of BS perpetuated by the people trying to unload their LCD & CRT monitors?

I work in film/tv post production and I can tell you that this is not part of a vast conspiricy leveled at getting you to spend your hard earned rl plat on an outdated piece of technology!

Screen burn-in is real. This is why all plasma tv sets are sold with a screen saver built in. Leave a still image on screen for a while and you will have it there for the life of the monitor.

Which brings up the other problem associated with plasma... They don't live very long! Currently the life span of a plasma screen is somewhere around 1000-2000 hours. After that it starts to die, losing brightness and image quality at an alarming rate.

Considering the level of investment involved, I can't imagine making that purchase knowing it was going belly up in that short a time. But ultimately, it is your nickle... or in this case your $6000.00

For me, (and for everyone else I know in the business), it's DLP for a tv set and LCD for a computer monitor...
#5 Feb 14 2005 at 4:26 PM Rating: Decent
Smiley: smile ...

Toshiba TLP-S30U Projector... cost two years ago, 1200$

bulb cost - 350$ lasts roughly 12 to 18 months with constant daily use 4 hours a day.. (give or take)

Picture size: 10 feet diagonally, Horizontal approx 9 feet, verticle approx 7 feet... throw distance, 16 feet.

HDTV compliant, supports all resolutions. plus inputs for S-video and composite video.

this is how we game at my place, Xbox, PS2, GameCube, and PC connections... You've not lived until you've seen your favorite game characters life size.

only real question is do you have a space for such a beast?? but if you do.. a projector is an amazing thing.. at a fraction of the cost of plasma.
#6 Feb 14 2005 at 4:28 PM Rating: Decent
Try www.globalcomputer.com they usually have a few 21in LCD's on there for under $500.

Also try gateway.com, I know gateways are not very well thought of, but at one time they actually had a 36in LCD that they offered under the business solutions area but beware.
We had this in the conference room and although nice and big, the picture quality was pretty bad. And the cost was almost 9k.
That was about 5 years ago I guess so its probably cheaper and better now.

Also if you have a large area you might want to do what my friend does, he got a "one-eyed monster" as we call it. Its a projector system that adjust down to 29in but has to be on a screen and again the quality isnt that good. They are also a bit pricey, ranging between about $900-4k.

I am currently also looking for a larger LCD so if I find something better will make sure list it here.
#7 Feb 14 2005 at 5:22 PM Rating: Decent
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Projector = Da Bomb Saving for on myself

We used 2 plasmas in the hospital Emergency room where I work. That 1000-2000 hour life time is very acurate.

they lasted about 3 months when left on 24 hours a day. We have switched to some 36 inch LCD monitors. LCD is the way to go if you cant fit a projector.

For the love of all that is holy don't buy plasma
#8 Feb 15 2005 at 10:24 AM Rating: Decent
Brian,
I just built a new computer. I wasn't going to buy a new monitor, because I was happy with my CRT like you where saying. After seeing what an LCD had to offer, I really started doing my homework on them. Here is what I came up with.

<http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=24-006-084&depa=1>

This LCD still blows me away at times. Not only ways I JAZZED about how games looked on it. But I can have many apps going at once, and see them all. This is a big plus for me.

The main thing to look for when buying a LCD is the Response Time: __ms. The LCD I linked is 23" with a Response time of 16ms. This was the best I found in the size I wanted. The native rez 1920 x 1200.

I did buy mine form newegg.com and was extremely happy with there service.

I hope this helps.

Buying EQ2 Today !!! Can't wait to see how it looks ;-)
#9 Feb 15 2005 at 11:14 AM Rating: Decent
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Speaking specifically for displays in the 30+ inch range, the difference between a "TV" and a "Monitor" is simply that the TV has a tuner (something to convert the cable/antenna signal into a picture). The "monitor" would require an external tuner if you wanted to watch TV on it. So for use as a computer monitor, there is effectively no difference except that the "TV" would cost more.

The reason displays this large (30+) have typically lower resolutions than 20" monitors is simple. Most people use 30" displays to watch TV. They're designed to be viewed from across the room, not up close like a computer display.

If you're OK with the size of your current display, but want more resolution, spend the $1500.00 and get the sony linked above, or get something like this which is like yours but has 1600x1200 resolution. Beware, though, EQ2 tends to get pretty sluggish at 1600 resolution.

If you really want something "bigger", I'd take the advice offered above and get a high resolution LCD projector.

Oh, and EQ2 does support the widescreen displays, it will use the whole display -- you won't get the "wide bars of nothingness".
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