For the 100 million billionth time a Defiler is a healing class. They are evil Shaman. As a matter of fact, they are very skilled at being a healer by combining debuffs, wards, and direct heals.
Sorry about the quick rant. It's only happend about 100 times (not exagerating) that I will either join or start a group and as we are getting together some good race player will say "great, now all we need is a healer and we are set". As an example, last night I was putting together a group. It consisted of a 29 Guardian (pie baker toon), 29 coercer, 26 defiler, and my 30 defiler. As we were all running to meet up with eachother the Guardian said "man, if we only had a healer this group could rock". O_o.......
So I just wanna formally introduce the good race people to the class of Defiler. We are healers. We make your booboo's go away. Now go make me some pie and this time don't put any flower designs on the top of it. Thank you.
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Defiler does sound like some sort of necro or something though heh. In fact wasn't there a class on EQ1 that was called a defiler at some point??
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well to be honest I'm still not able to tell all the subclasses which archetype they belong too :P but i'll always look it up myself rather than saying dumb things like "hey Dirge why weren't you healing me during the last fight?"
Yes in EQ1 Defiler was at some point a Necromancer title. Still a good healer though 
Wherever I go - there I am.
kildarner, I feel your pain.
I was in a group the other night with my 22 Shadowknight. We were in a tough fight and 2 of the group members (including the healer) were dead. As the main tank's HPs started going in the red, he started yelling at me to heal him, and not politely.
Now, I can understand people thinking a Defiler isn't a healing class (I've made the mistake before myself, and I'm an FP citizen), but thinking a Shadowknight IS?
I was in a group the other night with my 22 Shadowknight. We were in a tough fight and 2 of the group members (including the healer) were dead. As the main tank's HPs started going in the red, he started yelling at me to heal him, and not politely.
Now, I can understand people thinking a Defiler isn't a healing class (I've made the mistake before myself, and I'm an FP citizen), but thinking a Shadowknight IS?
Ha! You lazy SK's. Why weren't you healing? I knew you all were good for nothing.
I know a lot of people don't know the classes and subclasses and all that yet. That's why I wanted to take the time to introduce the Defiler subclass. Apparently it needed to be done. :)
I know a lot of people don't know the classes and subclasses and all that yet. That's why I wanted to take the time to introduce the Defiler subclass. Apparently it needed to be done. :)
Im a Wizard lvl 21.
Last night I started a group with 2 healers and 3 scouts.
Then one healer said 'Damn! This group would rock if we just had a tank'.
Then I /disband because I didnt want to group with people that dont understand that Wizards are the best tanks.
ok, joke.. But you do have a point, I see alot of people not knowing what diffrent classes are/do. =)
Last night I started a group with 2 healers and 3 scouts.
Then one healer said 'Damn! This group would rock if we just had a tank'.
Then I /disband because I didnt want to group with people that dont understand that Wizards are the best tanks.
ok, joke.. But you do have a point, I see alot of people not knowing what diffrent classes are/do. =)
Why does this have to be directed to qeynosian people??? Im pretty sure theres some dumb Freeport newbs.
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Why does this have to be directed to qeynosian people??? Im pretty sure theres some dumb Freeport newbs.
In Freeport, we kill people who don't know the different classes, so that pretty much solves the problem quickly. =p
Yeah but when you Defilers heal, you always put some nasty fungus in there that just eats away from the inside. It's all a sneaky trick 
Nooooo! That's our magic villifying fungus! You're not supposed to know about that!
I'm sure there are freeport people that have no idea what a Mystic or a Conjurer is. However I don't have to worry about that because I'm not a mystic or a conjurer. The sole purpose of this thread was to introduce Defiler's to you pie bakers. If you would like to introduce the Mystic's to us start your own thread :P
In all seriousnous this is a rant about people not knowing the classes and not bothering to open the little instruction manual when they see something they don't know. It goes for both sides. It doesn't really tick me off bad and make we wanna quit or anything but I'm getting bruises on my forhead from slamming it into my desk while being asked if I know where to find any healers.
I'm sure there are freeport people that have no idea what a Mystic or a Conjurer is. However I don't have to worry about that because I'm not a mystic or a conjurer. The sole purpose of this thread was to introduce Defiler's to you pie bakers. If you would like to introduce the Mystic's to us start your own thread :P
In all seriousnous this is a rant about people not knowing the classes and not bothering to open the little instruction manual when they see something they don't know. It goes for both sides. It doesn't really tick me off bad and make we wanna quit or anything but I'm getting bruises on my forhead from slamming it into my desk while being asked if I know where to find any healers.
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In Freeport, we kill people who don't know the different classes, so that pretty much solves the problem quickly. =p
Then we send them to the overlord to have their body parts displayed in north,west,and south freeport.
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It doesn't really tick me off bad and make we wanna quit or anything but I'm getting bruises on my forhead from slamming it into my desk while being asked if I know where to find any healers.
OK... here's a thought...
the next time you're in a group and someone says "now if we only had a healer"
you say, "I am a healer" - problem solved! And as a bonus, it will save some of the wear and tear on your desk!
Awwwww. It's so much more fun to just say "yea, would be nice if we had one of those. To bad I'm a tank." And then I convince everyone that they should assist me because I have insane defense abilities that they've never heard of. And then when we all die I get to say "stupid Templar, you shoulda been able to keep us alive through that 12 mob group that I just pulled" while I run away with SoW.
LoL, when people don't know I'm a healer I always kindly let them know that I am one and we will be just fine with me healing the group. The purpose here is to eliminate at least some of the need for me to have to do that.
LoL, when people don't know I'm a healer I always kindly let them know that I am one and we will be just fine with me healing the group. The purpose here is to eliminate at least some of the need for me to have to do that.
I could be wrong, but I think SK's have some very limited healing ability in EQ1. Too many people still think EQ2 is the same game.
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Pfffftt. Kildarner dont expect too much out of the pie bakers, theyre too busy singing its a small world in their heads to be paying attention to the differant classes.
seriously though, i must admit, get a little lost sometimes too, i always want to think that a guardian is a healer, i know its not, but i like to try and believe that they are. but if you have played this game for more than a month, you should at least have a general knowledge of what the classes are and what their function is.
seriously though, i must admit, get a little lost sometimes too, i always want to think that a guardian is a healer, i know its not, but i like to try and believe that they are. but if you have played this game for more than a month, you should at least have a general knowledge of what the classes are and what their function is.
What's with the pie baker comments? What does that mean?
It appears to be being used in a context of a slam against the qeynosians, but I'm obviously missing something here.
It appears to be being used in a context of a slam against the qeynosians, but I'm obviously missing something here.
was in a group last night in commonlands where the defiler was healing better then the cleric . LOL , not to mention they just look cool as hell with their purple smoke billowing from em . I love that look .
its what the people of freeport call the people of qeynos. yes its a slam but meant in the best city rivaly gesture possible.
on the crafter channel on najena qeynosians are sometimes refferd to as "republicans" also lol , i find that one funny as heck
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What kind of pies do they bake?
We're especially fond of Iskar Pot Pie, but Troll Meringue or Dark Elf Cobbler will do in a pinch.
LoL, yes Pie Baker is a derogitory (sp?) remark aimed at Qeynosians. It stems from one of your many hobbies. Baking pies, sipping wine, playing the piano, so on and so forth. Pie bakers can not and should not be taken as serious killing threats. Nothing that spends that much time in the kitchen should be.
I actually got the term from a pie baker. It was the first time I grouped with Qeynos types and I asked what they did for hobbies over there. 3 of 4 "tea cups" in the group all replied with the same comment. "Bake pies. Lots and lots of pies." From that point on, I shall forever refer to them as pie bakers. Although I do like the name Tea Cups that just popped out. Might even be more suiting.
I actually got the term from a pie baker. It was the first time I grouped with Qeynos types and I asked what they did for hobbies over there. 3 of 4 "tea cups" in the group all replied with the same comment. "Bake pies. Lots and lots of pies." From that point on, I shall forever refer to them as pie bakers. Although I do like the name Tea Cups that just popped out. Might even be more suiting.
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What's with the pie baker comments? What does that mean?
It appears to be being used in a context of a slam against the qeynosians, but I'm obviously missing something here.
It appears to be being used in a context of a slam against the qeynosians, but I'm obviously missing something here.
Mmmm bad day? Ok breath in....... breath out. Repeat a Doz times saying out loud, "Its only a game" .
There we feel better now. And try to not let the freeport demons into your head again :)
I was just asking Broan. No I wasn't having a bad day, I was confused by the comments. I could figure out that it was derogatory by the context.
Its like the old red/blue server discussions on EQ1. For some reason these "nicknames" develop. First time I ever heard pie baker though, so I wanted to know what it means.
Nothing worse than using a slam incorrectly lol. How embarrasing that would be!!
Yes its true, we Qeynosians bake pies quite frequently. You gotta do something with all the dead Freeporters.
So I guess Freeporters should be referred to as pie filling from now on? /grin
Its like the old red/blue server discussions on EQ1. For some reason these "nicknames" develop. First time I ever heard pie baker though, so I wanted to know what it means.
Nothing worse than using a slam incorrectly lol. How embarrasing that would be!!
Yes its true, we Qeynosians bake pies quite frequently. You gotta do something with all the dead Freeporters.
So I guess Freeporters should be referred to as pie filling from now on? /grin
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I completely agree hehe, I think the poster is just referring to the fact that you do not really see defilers in Qeynos since we are evil.. EVIL hehe
I had the very same thing happen in Thundering steppes (spelling).
I joined a group then they go ok now we need a healer. I was like ?? Then I told them what do you think I am and they were like no we need a cleric, I said dudes I can do the job. After that they questioned me.
I have the same adept levels of the base priest heals and also the specialized group heals plus the nice wards we get on top of my class specific heal spells. It is understandable to not know every class and every ability the classes have, and even though one class may be considered a better healer over another, most of the priest classes can do a more than adequate job in any group.
I have a druid and a cleric and a Defiler and when I get the first two classes over 20 I would be better able to gauge which may be a better healer over all but I think in the end they all do an equal job. :)
I had the very same thing happen in Thundering steppes (spelling).
I joined a group then they go ok now we need a healer. I was like ?? Then I told them what do you think I am and they were like no we need a cleric, I said dudes I can do the job. After that they questioned me.
I have the same adept levels of the base priest heals and also the specialized group heals plus the nice wards we get on top of my class specific heal spells. It is understandable to not know every class and every ability the classes have, and even though one class may be considered a better healer over another, most of the priest classes can do a more than adequate job in any group.
I have a druid and a cleric and a Defiler and when I get the first two classes over 20 I would be better able to gauge which may be a better healer over all but I think in the end they all do an equal job. :)
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