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#1 Jan 28 2005 at 3:52 PM Rating: Decent
Hi all,

I was just curious if anyone else is having the problem of randomly crashing to desktop and getting an Invalid login/password screen.

Within the past couple of days this has happened to me very frequently. Any info anyone could share regarding this would be much appreciated.
Thanks.

-Joci
#2 Jan 28 2005 at 4:19 PM Rating: Decent
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The invalid login/password thing doesn't mean anything, it just throws that up when you crash and don't automatically reconnect.

I've had a few crashes to desktop, sometimes after periods of extreme lag.
#3 Jan 29 2005 at 12:38 PM Rating: Decent
Yeah, I have been having it periodically for the past few days. Thought it was my system and have been goin crazy trying to debug my hardware. SO glad to hear someone else is having it happen to them as well.
#4 Jan 29 2005 at 12:55 PM Rating: Decent
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A buddy of mine had this happen when he would load into certain zones. Sounded weird to me , but then he told me that certain zones draw more power from your PC , so he changed his power supply and it fixed it .

I couldnt believe it myself , the idea of certain zones causing your power supply to bottom out seemed ludicrous to me . But none the less, a new power supply fixed his problem . I dunno if this is whats happening to you but just though id post my 2 cp :)
#5 Jan 29 2005 at 1:47 PM Rating: Decent
What the heck, it is worth a shot. Probably time to replace my power supply anyway. I will try it out. Thanks.
#6 Jan 29 2005 at 5:38 PM Rating: Decent
I have a 400 watt PSU, of which I use roughly 250 watts max load, and it still happens to me.

Edited, Sat Jan 29 17:40:03 2005 by EastBayRae
#7 Jan 29 2005 at 10:23 PM Rating: Decent
Thanks for the replies, after hours of searching through the tech forums on sony site..it appears alot of people are having this problem. I tried contacting support and got the standard replies of making sure drives/vid cards are updated, system isn't over heating etc.

There is alot of info over there of things to try unfortunately none has been helpful for my issues, maybe one of y'all will have better luck.
#8 Jan 30 2005 at 6:41 AM Rating: Decent
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hehe Dear lord people! Do not go changing your power supply cause your one game crashes.

No program is going to make your PC require more power. The only way that would be an issue is if you have some sort of "Dynamic" overclocking utility either in the manufacturers drivers or other 3rd part app that would dynamically change the voltage of either your CPU or more so in the case of a 3D rendered game your Video card. Think about this for a second. Unless you are overclocking your system dynamically where an app tells your cpu/video/ram to take more voltage than it needs to operate normally then your system is not going to give them more power. example: your ram may be rated at 2.5 volts so the bios allocates that much voltage. Not more cause you are running Everquest 2. No amount of zones in the game will do this. If your particular video card is rated at 1.5 volts to the agp port (provided it is an agp card) then it will get 1.5 volts give or take a few tenths of a volt based on how clean the power is.

There are those out there that get random crashes to the desktop, this includes my system. I dont get it all the time only rarely but it has happened. Imho I think it is how the game handles video and system memory as this type of crash is similar to when you have bad RAM, but it isnt bad it may be more synthetic in nature as EQ2 very obviously has a memory leak in the program. As far as certain zones, yes many zones load far more data than others, obviously Longshadow ally or South Qeynos is not as large a zone as Commonlands or Antonica. If you get this desktop crash as you zone in.

That doesn't mean though that this one person did not have low voltage issues across the board on his system, but no game will make you require more power. Your video card requires only so many volts, as does your CPU and RAM, and if your system has a small power supply or a bad power supply that isnt supplying enough power for those needs then you will have problems across the board, even in other games and windows itself. You also need clean power that doesnt run too high or too low erratically. But please dont go running out and change your power supply for one game, that is just silly.

think people :)

p.s. Here is my system specs, and I still get crashes periodically

Coolermaster Wavemaster Case
Antec TruePower 550 watt
Asus P4P800 mainboard
P4 2.8 (800fsb)
OCZ 512MB x 2 PC4000
Sb Live Audio
Xfx Geforce 6600 GT AGP 128MB
WD 120Gb Sata drive 8mb buffer 7200rpm hdd
2 x WD 80GB IDE Special edition 8mb buffer 7200rpm hdds
Liteon DVD burner



Edited, Sun Jan 30 06:52:21 2005 by eclypsethreedemons
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