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#1 Jan 16 2005 at 10:36 PM Rating: Decent
I just started eq2 a few days ago comming from eq1. I played my character through the starting island and got 220% exp like everyone told me to. It was fun and wasn't so bad because there was lots to do and the exp went pretty quick. I did my quests in freeport and reached level 8 when I finished. Then when I went to go get some more exp and I noticed it was taking a lot longer to get exp. It took me about 4 or 5 hours to go from 9 to 10. I tried killing weak green things, blue things and then even red things and nothing made much of a change. For killing a red I got like 1% or so a kill. Is this right? Have I been missing something or does it take a really long time to level in eq2? I could understand at later levels, but lvl 9 seems kinda early to just grind away a lot of exp... I'd hate to imagine higher levels. I never was able to find a group, is grouping the way to go for quicker exp?
#2 Jan 16 2005 at 11:39 PM Rating: Default
The best way for xp is quests, lots of quests. You can get to 17ish off of just quests. Getting to 20 will be a bit of a grind, and then it's a brick wall of needing a group to progress.
#3 Jan 16 2005 at 11:39 PM Rating: Good
Did you ever die? It sounds like you are trying to pay back "Exp debt". When you die, you get a small red bar on your xp bar, beyond the xp you have gained. You will only gain 50% xp or less from what you do until you pay your debt off, and then it resumes as normal. Also, was a lot of this xp "hold over"? Hold over xp is gained when you are being capped at a level. Say, when you are level 9, you cannot get level 10 until you do your Class quest, but, you can continue receiving xp...to a point. After you have about 200% xp "hold over", the xp you gain will begin to slow down. I suppose they wanted to put something in place so that you dont just keep getting xp when you are capped, and then gain 4 levels at once when you complete the quest, when you were gaining xp at the rate of a level 9.

Edited, Sun Jan 16 23:40:46 2005 by dacypher
#4 Jan 17 2005 at 7:53 AM Rating: Decent
Quests is the way to go. Havent done a single grindgroup so far with my lvl 28 Fury.
Grinded alot EQ1 style with my lvl 22 wiz though.

And second poster is dead wrong. There is no wall at lvl 20 that demands a group. Alot of people are saying this. Dont belive them. Sure group is good but in my experience a combo of groups and solo is what gains you xp fastest.
Example, you get a quest that requires you to run to x location, then y location. THis you do solo. NExt step is to kill xx mobs. Get a few more quests for theese mobs (usually there are several quests that requires you to kill a certain mob) then start or join a group and kill theese mobs for a while. Mby then your group suggest you do another quest for yy mobs, follow them, get quest, kill mobs. Now the group splits. You go solo and do turn ins for all quests you have finished.
Playing like this is also good for the Vitality which is important so you get bonus xp for each kill.

Vitality explained here:
Jadrax wrote:
Background

Some players have noticed that two grouped characters of the same level can defeat the same number of opponents and have the same number of deaths, yet they advance to the next level at different rates. This isn't due to a bug or race/class bonuses, but rather because of a feature called Vitality which augments the amount of XP you receive.

Vitality was added to the game during beta, and our plan was (and still is) to add a visual UI element that shows your current Vitality status. Unfortunately the visual portion wasn't put in place during beta, and other UI tasks became a priority over it.

While it's a rather straightforward idea, the current way it works has led to confusion and concern on the part of players who have seen their experience gain change for no apparent reason. We definitely feel it's important that you understand things that relate to your character's advancement, so we'd like to offer this overdue explanation.

How Vitality Works

All characters gain a chunk of Vitality every hour, on the hour, and keep accumulating it until the maximum amount is saved up. Each time characters gain experience, they use up a portion of their Vitality and receive a bit more experience than usual. When the character runs out of Vitality, he or she no longer receives bonus experience.

So what is the confusing part? Well, currently the Vitality bonus is received at three different levels. At high Vitality, you're receiving matching experience for what you earn. At medium Vitality, you earn half as much bonus XP. At low Vitality, you earn one quarter bonus XP. Because each level of Vitality accumulates separately, it is possible to jump from one level to another when a previously empty pool accumulates enough bonus to draw from it. Unless a character stopped earning XP until their Vitality pools were completely full and played until they were completely empty, the bonus wasn't being awarded in a way that seemed to make logical sense. The lack of a gauge showing how much Vitality you have only makes things more difficult to understand.

In order to clearly show the effects of Vitality, we're going to switch to a single pool that gives a consistent amount of bonus experience. We also plan to add a UI gauge that shows how much Vitality you have left. This way everyone will be able to easily see how your XP is affected.

Who Benefits?

Vitality was designed to benefit everyone, whether you only play a few hours a week or whether you play many. If someone only spends a few hours here and there earning experience, they will spend a lot of their playtime earning bonus XP. Playing so much that you constantly use up all the Vitality you earn means you'll get every bit of potential bonus XP coming to you. There's no need to quit playing if you run out of Vitality, because you know you'll get a new chunk of it at the start of the next hour.

Vitality applies not only to adventuring experience, but to quests and crafting as well. Any activity that earns XP will make use of the Vitality bonus, assuming you have it available.

The goal of this system is to provide a benefit to everyone, regardless of play style or the rate at which you choose to advance your character. We didn't intend for it to seem mysterious and confusing, so hopefully now it's a bit clearer. Once the system is totally in place, it will be much more straightforward and easy to keep track of, which is how your character's progress should be.
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Moorgard
EverQuest II Community Guy
#5 Jan 17 2005 at 8:51 AM Rating: Decent
I was wondering how xps work also. Im lvl 22 beserker and I only get 1% for each kill if that! If I kill a green ++ I still only get 1% also I can only kill 1 lvl 20 monster at a time even though im 2 lvls above it! Its really slow solo killing at lower lvls I could kill groups of 5 green and still get atleast 2% for it, if I do that now I'm lucky if I get 1%

I know its an online game to play with lots of people but I dont always have time to find a decent group. I really prefer solo playing and then grouping and talking to other players if I feel like it.
#6 Jan 17 2005 at 9:09 AM Rating: Decent
Leveling is not a straight line. Not in any line. To lvl from 8 to 9 it might take, say, 50 mobs but to lvl from from 27 to 28 will take like 300 mobs or more probably.
Also, do a search on how to solo.. Noone with sufficient gear and spells/abilitys should have any problem solo'ing yellow mobs at any level, if you cant handle that you should try out some new tactics.

Heck if I got 1% for each kill at all levels I would be lvl 50 along time ago.

Edited, Mon Jan 17 09:11:26 2005 by BumbiRagnar
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