Small tip - exp debtFollow

Really? I was curious as to how that worked, haven't been able to decipher the rate yet. I was always under the impression that it took 72 hours before the debt would be erased, but maybe that was just for missing shard effects, not debt.

I know that I've logged off and logged back in UNDER 72 hours later and afterwards my debt was completely gone. Was always wondering why sometimes it mysteriously disappeared and other times stuck with me.

So 1/2% an hour, eh? Let's see, I'm at 31% debt right now...soo

Carry the 4..

...bah

On a side note. It's pretty sad when a game encourages logging off to avoid further frustration and anger. I swear the is the first MMORPG i've actually said ********** im just logging off, i'll lose my debt tomorrow". This happens quite often, and early in the night. Where as in every other MMORPG i usually play to the wee hours of the night. WoW is looking better and better, i think when they start selling more copies i may give it a shot and see what all the talk is about =)

Edited, Tue Jan 11 09:05:46 2005 by sotonin

Good group gets debt!

Best group I have had so far got 13%, or hmm, was it 17% debt..
Anyways we killed red named giants ^^ and lots of red giants^^ both with company and singles. (and yes, they were red to everyone in group). It was when we got adds it got messy and after we wiped we was careless going back (had played together for about 7-8 hours so we were tired) :p
Anyways, it was a blast!

On the topic, I dont like that debt decay and you are encouraged to log off. Mby debt should decay to 10% but the last 10% cant decay and you have to work it off... Something needs to be done imo :x

Edited, Tue Jan 11 09:59:24 2005 by BumbiRagnar

Not to mention the fact that WoW rewards you for taking time away from your character as well in the form of advanced exp gain for rested characters.

I have an alt in both EQ2 and WoW, so when if I get some crazy debt that I don't feel like working off, I can switch to my alt in EQ2, and when I want to rest a character in WoW for a while, I can switch then too.

And here's a fun fact.

Just becuase you have EXP debt doesn't mean that you have to stop playing.

It's true! Sure, you're not going to get exp at the same rate as you would without debt, but it's not as if they are making you log out of the game. It's your choice to deal with the debt in whichever way you choose.

some people play to *play* ... grinding doesnt exist for them, so debt is irrelevent.

that doesnt make them insane, just more relaxed ;).

wow, i couldn't have said it better myself!

I just wanted to say that the 1/2 pct per hour can not be correct. I have ended nights with 3 pct exp debt and came back later and it was still at 3 pct. One gripe I have about exp debt is that you seems to take more if you are the one who does not die. Test it. Duo with someone you know - have them die and get their shard. See who has more debt. I haven't tested it recently but I know I used to get 1 pct more debt then the person who died. Also I think they need to have some kind of debt radius. I know the whole point of shared exp debt is to keep you interested in keeping your teammates alive but cmon - when you invite someone halfway across the zone to group and then they die halfway across the zone because they don't know how to travel safely - why am I taking on debt?? I mean what could I have done to save them?? Its rather annoying - now I try whenever possible to tell someone where we are and to come to our group for invite.
Also I have found that shared exp debt doesn't encourage me to save people - it just makes those who die because they are foolish stand out more. Shared exp debt is just another way to sink your time IMO. If someone can test the whole exp debt wearing away while you are logged off that would be great cause I just dont see it. It's not hard to work off exp esp in a good group but you should be rewarded for knowing how to stay alive - not punished for others not knowing how to stay alive.

haha. So true. That's probably why I solo 99% of the time while resource collecting.

Well the answer to this one is don't invite people from across the zone. I refuse to invite people I cannot see for precisely this reason. I think zone-wide invites were an awful idea.

I don't really care for it to much myself would rather die and lose 3 yellows of exp and then get a rez for 96% and get the exp back in 3 to 5 kills then die get a rez and then lose 50% of my exp for the next 30 or so kills (that number depends on what u hunt)

When I first hit FG I got in a few groups that wiped bad so was at 39% debt took me 4 days to get rid of it makes playing really not much fun.

As for logging off to lose debt well sometimes that works sometimes it don't. I have logged off for 12 hours and lost 0% and I have logged off before for justa few hours and lost alot seems to not be a stead 1/2% per hour? Who knows

honestly I have mixed feelings about XP debt...

on the one hand I see the purpose of it as something to encourage watching each other in combat..

but in reality it's really done nothing but become a bone of contention which makes people more than a little gun-shy about grouping.. still it was a good try on the part of SOE.

if XP debt becomes insurmountable I just play an alt for a few days. ^_^



ohh yeah.. I remember that place... I came out of there with approx 168% debt on my predator... =_= Logged out and created my Mage (who would eventually become my Conjuror). Suffice to say.. I'm real particular about who I party with when I play my predator now.