EQ2 or WoW>> Which is better??Follow

PvP Honor system = good.

PvP Honor system on RP server = not so good.

For example there are these threads on my server (there were more but Blizz only allows so many pages/days in the forum history and they were wiped last Tues.)


http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-realm-cenarioncircle&t=51884&p=1&tmp=1#post51884

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-realm-cenarioncircle&t=57327&p=1&tmp=1#post57327

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-realm-cenarioncircle&t=57818&p=1&tmp=1#post57818

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-realm-cenarioncircle&T=58199&P=2


CC was never a carebear server, BUT we always wanted (by WE I mean the more active members of our server) to keep even battles somewhat RPish.



Eh, that don't happen no more, thanks to "Honor" system. People can't quest in Tarren Mill, people get corpse camped for honor without any STORY or RP involved with it, people are all trying to get "phat lewt" and the "d00dz" have come out of nowhere to make the RP server into chaos.

Honor System should have been restricted to Battlegrounds OR there should also be a DISHONOR system. AKA you kill the same NPC within an hour you get dishonor points. Kill a quest giver more than once you get dishonor points. Not letting your opponent fully heal before re-engaging them you get dishonor points.

That'd put those "leet d00dz" back on PvP servers where they belong. There are too few RP servers as it is, we really didn't want this Honor System to ruin it, and though it hasn't completely RUINED it, it made a big dent and many people do not like it.

Edited, Tue May 3 18:32:47 2005 by Ivven

Eq2 as a much better lifespan, i am not saying wow is a bad game, but i know many people who went on EQ2 looks for the same kind of continuity that they had on eq1, they want to be able to play their game for 5+ years.

Now i know if i go and buy wow, ill level to 60 and play alot in the first month but once you reach the top... its over. Sure you enjoy it a week or 2 but then what. If they raise the level cap youll just reach it in another 5 minute gameplay so whats the point.

Its 2 different kind of game, the only problem i see with wow is the fast decrease in population that will happen, they will have to scratch a whole lot of server eventually ( i guess i dont know how many server they have ) Because their just isnt anything to keep the player playing for more than a year.

Happy May 5th lets all drink a beer together.

How can a person that has never played WoW say something wrong about the game?
What if it is backwards...? what would you feel if someone that have never played or know anything of EQ2 starts saying all the wrong things that game has?

All game have flaws, true, but that's exactly as if I started saying that UO is bad..i dont know..never played it before!!!

But for some of those who say that leveling in WoW is easy....i challenge you to do it....go to one of those PvP servers and see what happens after level 12...lol...
You rather stay in the security given behind a pack of players fighting some monster than fight your way up against real people!! Lol.....

And i know because i played both games..and BTW...i do think the same thing about the WoW PvE servers.

I reactivated my accounts because, as i also said, i had a lot of faith in the game... that's why i had both my accounts active along with my WoW account (i kept them active, even if i hadn't time to play because i think that if you like something and you intend to play it later, u have to support it)
Actually i think that EQ2 as a game is a good game..i simply hate the zoning thing and the no-pvp but i know those things might change in time(like the selling item market...i know that you can sell items not having to be inside your room..right?)
What i cant stand is the way SOE manages the game and how they try to squeeze every penny out of you.i.e. I just saw that now players can have two more slots...Do u know how many can i have in the other game?? Up to 50!! limit per server 10. see?? that kind of things drive me mad.
No saying on the exchange server thing. After all the witch hunt they did? now they want the slice of the pie?? lol...come on!!!

Pash,
I can speak from experience. I started out playing WOW from the day it went live. I love WOW but I got sick of the patching hell I had to go through everytime they decided to release one. So, I switched to EQ 2 and i'm not disappointed.

Now, you say leveling in WOW isn't easy. Why, then, in the four months I played did I have one level 51, a level 46, a level 42, a level 36, several in there twenties. I had every tradeksill covered on each of my alts (this is where I agree with you, more alts should be available in EQ 2 for free), and I had a lot of my tradeskills in the 200 range. All that, in 3 months on a PvE server.

Don't get me wrong, I loved WOW and if I could get the latest patch to work I would probably keep my account for another six months instead of letting it expire in June, but EQ 2 is a much more challenging game. I just hit level 22 with my fury and I feel like I accomplished something. Tradeskilling is deep and rewarding and I love the offline selling. Nothing like walking into your house and hearing the cha-ching sound and tallying up your profits.

So, EQ 2 is a blast, so was WOW, but WOW is definitely easier and I hated the AH in Ironforge, laggy and inconvenient.

But, to each their own.

To above poster:
no lag in High settings in EQ2? lol...
I know that is not exactly accurate because i went through all that with EQ2 (yes, i have an uber computer-connection-vgrphx)
Saying this does not imply that WoW is lag free... it has serious lag sometimes and although they have worked on that, is still present sometimes.

And when you say "mere graphical quality" that really depends on the users taste. At the begining of this thread i posted that my initial decision of buying EQ2 over WoW was the graphix quality...that i hated the cartoony style of WoW. After playing both games (started with EQ2 btw), my decision changed...I really like more WoW grphx..but that's me.



Edited, Wed May 11 10:02:01 2005 by Pasho

Pasho,

Sorry, I can't comment on your computer system, but mine runs great on the generic high quality setting. I even had building shadows and such turned on for awhile, but in some cases that did generate a bit of lag, so I ended up turning it off. I'm not saying your system isn't "uber" or whatever, but heck if I know why it lags for you.

With regards to that message from the EQ2 Official Forums, I will point out for the record that you have to be a subscriber to post on the WoW Official Forums also. So this isn't anything either game company is doing differently from the other.

Restricting the users of a forum to those who are participating in the game is a good thing. Sure, some outsiders who might have questions that could possibly convince them to play will not be able to ask those questions. Despite this, the plethora of already answered topics on the forums probably covers their question already anyway if they'd just use the search feature or browse a bit. So really, all the restriction does is keep the forums from having 23548290 of the same questions being asked over and over. Due to the restriction it's a mere 94243 of the same questions being asked over and over. =)

I liked the WoW graphics for what they were, and they were fun. I'm an artist, I can appreciate more than one style of art/graphics in a game and still think it's fine. I like EQ2's grahpics as well (though I wish there were more variety). I like both games, EQ2 has been "fixed" enough now that I'm enjoying my second go at it... WoW was a great and fun game but I did not want to get into the Honor System mess and have it frustrate me. *shrug*

I want a game that is hard to master. If you are max level you should feel proud. Feel like you have done something extraordinary.

Leveling is way to fast in both WOW and EQ2 IMO. I never participated in the WOW beta and evrything was new to me when I started. Still I leveled to 60 in less than 4 weeks. And if I started a new character now I think it would be closer to 3 weeks to 60. Since I know good xp-spots for every level and know where to go and what to do.

I leveled to 42 in EQ2 in 4 weeks and I think I would have reached 50 in 5-6 weeks. I had to take a brake from it since most of my friends wanted to play WOW instead. Might start playing EQ2 again if I get to bored with WOW.

IMO it should take at least 4-6 months to get to max level in a MMORPG. And if you are hardcore and get max level after lets say 5 months it should take years for casual players to catch up. That way you feel great pride and feel special.

I also think that most content should be designed for endgame and raids. Eventually most players will be max level and there must be a reason for them to continue playing. Also items that drop in raidzones should be nodrop/BOP. It should not be possible for people that dont raid to buy items of that quality.

I dont think that items in WOW and EQ2 are very interesting or feel like great rewards. I´m a mage in WOW and items/stats makes little difference for casters compared to melee. That is a rather serious problem I have with that game. Not even the best items that drop will help caster dps much. They will have to do something about this.

Items in EQ2 are mostley the same. A higher quality item only have higher stats compared to a lower quality item. But it will be the same stats for the same slot. And different classes to often use the same items. To few items that are class specific. To few options.

Class balance in EQ2 is better compared to WOW. But it´s not strange since most classes are almost the same. EQ2 needs to get more interesting and unique classes. WOW need better balance in general. Characters, casters and melee, must get the same increase in power from better items and higher stats.

So, IMO, EQ2 and WOW are far from perfect. I play them until I can find something better. I hope some of the future games will be the right type of game for me.

Also I would like to say: We play games to have fun. If you have fun and think EQ2 or WOW are fine the way the are it´s good for you. I´m not saying you should want the same things I want or prefer the same things I prefer. If you think a game I would like would be boring and if you dont agree with me I can respect that. But of course I also want to have fun and must try to find the right game for me.

Regards!

Pasho,

It depends on how much time you devote to it, I guess. I started WoW, and even factoring in a full time salaried job (so that's 40-50 hours a week) plus college (8 hours a week), a wife, housework, and homework, I still managed to get to 40 in WoW in one month. Granted, I was spending 99% of my actual free time playing, so that factored into it.

I'm playing EQ2 now, and after having the game around a month so far I'm level 19/11. I haven't been playing with 99% of my free time, though, I've had some other hobbies that I've been working on too.

Personally, I like a game that levels slower. I wasn't terribly fond of EQ1's slowness, but that was mainly because I started 3 years into the game, so there were already a bunch of people who had seen/done everything. One of the things I am enjoying about EQ2 is that although there's some high leveled people, they don't seem to be everywhere. The world is still one where there's things to discover, FAQ's that haven't been written, you know?

With an expansion already on the way, I should be nearly strong enough to participate in it by the time it's released. If not, I can just about guarantee that I'll be done with it by the time the next expansion releases, so that will work out nice for me to be able to experience all the new content, as opposed to EQ1 where I wasn't able to participate in 75% of the game even at level 31 or so.

I wanted to get to max level fast because I wanted to be able to raid with my guild.
I played 10-12 hours/day when I leveled to 60 in 4 weeks. 70-80 hours/week.

I dont play that much normally. Only when I level up. I can play like that for a month if I have a goal and think it´s important for me to level as fast as possible. When I´m not leveling I only play 4-6 hours/day. I also need and want to do other things. And cant spend all my time playing games. I can do that for a while if I have to. But not long term.

For me leveling was 50% faster in WOW compared to EQ2. And it feels like leveling is fast in both games.

Regards!