EQ2 or WoW>> Which is better??Follow

Wow Lydia those are some numbers, I'm gonna have to look that place up!

I know people who play COH. I know people who play WOW (well 1 person actually). I don't know a single person who's ever even considered trying Lineage. I realize that's just me and my friends and coworkers etc, but its interesting to me that the game that supposedly has the most massive amount of subscribers is one I've barely heard of.

I haven't played EQ2 so I can not directly comment on it. But I did play EQ for 4 years, and loved it... for 2 or so. I was so disillusioned with SOE after that and SWG (ugh) that I vowed to never play one of their games again. But, if it's good and you guys enjoy it more power to you. Mostly I'm just posting here to ask a question.

Can't we all just agree that EQ2 and WoW have their own merits and FFXI is easily the worst MMORPG ever made?

that being said, how can you knock WoW's humour? This item still makes me laugh...
http://wow.allakhazam.com/item.html?witem=8350

In fairness I should mention that i'm bored and searching forums because my largely overpopulated WoW server is down.... AGAIN.

I will tell you all this. I have been playin WoW since beta and I will not go back to it until battlefields are released. WoW is a very fun game and all, UNTIL you get to lvl 60. I got to lvl 60 in just one month and I also have 3 lvl 40+. After you get to 60 you will find that there is not enough content to keep you playing. PVP is pointless right now because the honor system and battlefields arent in yet. All you have left to do at 60 is to do instance raids (of which i've done about 100) but it gets so boring i even fell asleep during one of them. The other option you have is to create alts and thats what i tried too but everything feels so scripted that it feels like the same exact thing as your first char and quickly gets boring. The quests for the most part are the same (both horde/alliance), the areas where you go to quest/lvl are the same, the skills for most classes of opposite factions are basically the same with different names (save the shaman/paladin which are the only 2 more unique classes from horde/alliance). PVP gets extremely boring because theres no point to it yet.

WoW does have its strong points. You dont need to spend time to find groups, it takes a relatively small amount of time to do things (which contributes to the scripted feeling/no challenge/too quick to end game/finding out theres not enough content to last 3 months but it is good and fun up until 50-60)the way quests are organized are nice, and the pvp is decently balanced (oh yah, the mounts are cool). The graphics i found a pleasing change from the norm but thats really just preference. As it stands now though, theres nothing for me to do in WoW till battlefields/honor system is put in.

I like both EQ2 and WoW as well. WoW has the pros i listed above, pvp being the best part to me. EQ2 has a good group system, mentor system is handy, graphics seem more realistic, animations of both combat and spells are superb, and its generally more fun to play in a group. For solo/pvp i'll stick with WoW.

Perhaps the reason this thread is here, and not in the WOW forums is that the EQ2 players don't waste their time going over to WOW to try and recruit players? :) Ok that was meant somewhat tongue in cheek, but there is a sliver of truth to it.

The reason this became such a big discussion is that several of the WOW players seemed to feel compelled to evangelize, not just say "hey I've tried both, I like WOW better".

Then again, personally, I've NEVER understood people who post on a board for a game they don't play. When I quit playing EQ1 I never once went to another EQ1 board, I don't see the point. I don't understand the people that come here and say "omg WOW is awesome EQ2 sux". What is the purpose of that, other than to recruit more people to an already crowded game? Its certainly not "sharing information", because of the tone of presentation.

you obviously havent read this entire thread :) Wow sucks Eq2 rocks! hehe just fanning the flames :)

I have posted replies here. I have to say this as this is my absolute last reply in this thread (I was amazed it was still growing). It would be next to impossible for the original poster to get an answer that would do them justice. Everyone has different preferences. Everyone. Kinda like some peeps love Jar Jar and others want to stab him in the heart with Yoda!
Some love David Hasselhoff and others aren't German :)

play every game... :)

-D

And in one more month you will have seen and done everything WoW has to offer. When Battle Grounds comes out it will add maybe one more month of fun on top of that. So, Get to 60 (like I did) and kill many of the opposing faction (like I did) and I will see you on EQII in 2 months. Maybe we can group up :-)

i played eq2 at launch, didn't like it. so i switched to warcraft. played warcraft for about 3 months, and now i'm switching back to eq2. these are the reasons why, and they are all due to my personal preference. both games are great.

Grouping:
i only got to level 48 in warcraft, so i didn't get to raid. so from my point of view, warcraft wasn't really an MMORPG. like someone said before, it was more of a single player game that you happened to be playing at the same time as other people. the majority of people didn't even want to group at all.

i enjoyed warcraft for a time, but then i remembered that i was playing an MMO so i could group with people and socialize. i really started to miss grouping. i did a few instances here and there, but it really wasn't enough. and when i did actually get a chance to group, people were horrible at it. they were still using their solo tactics. this was due to the lack of grouping opportunities, and people not getting enough practice.

i moved to back to eq2 because i enjoy grouping more than solo, and eq2 forces you to group sometimes, which i would rather do than play alone.

pvp:
like people have been saying, eq2 seem to have a few more mature players. mostly because the pvp/diablo2 crowd goes to warcraft. i think pvp causes all kinds of problems. it causes people to whine about imbalance, and people to be more greedy. they don't want to share loot, so they can get lots of money to kill people in pvp.

it also made me feel like i was rushing to level up, so i'd be able to experience the end game pvp. i always saw lvl 60 people fighting and thought 'wow, that's the best part of the game, i can't wait, i must level!'. i always felt like i was in a rush, so i cared more about leveling than adventuring. i don't feel this rush with eq2. i can take more time out to help others in eq2 because i don't feel like i have to profit from everything i do.

warcraft general forums are all about whining about balance because of pvp. eq2 doesn't have that problem, and i'm glad.

graphics:
all about preference. each game has their own style. warcraft = cartoon, eq2 = realism. warcraft was very colorful, and all the armor looked great. i liked the goofiness because it fit the game. honestly, i don't care for eq2's graphics too much, but maybe that's because i have to run the game on 'better performance' settings, which brings me to my next point.

almost any computer can run warcraft, so any noob (sorry about using that word, its all i could think of) can buy warcraft and play it fine. but eq2 requires a much better system, and i like it that way for a reason. i think it filters out a lot noobs (sorry for the word again). the only people who are going to be able to run eq2 well are those who have a good machine. having a good machine usually means that you are pretty serious about gaming, therefore you will have more experience and be better at playing. i don't mind playing with noobs, but i rarely found people who were that good in warcraft.

anyway, this has gone on a bit longer than i expected. it is late, i am bored, and i rambled. thank you for letting me take the time to express my thoughts.

Edited, Wed Mar 23 17:38:57 2005 by bloodwingss

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Edited, Wed Mar 23 05:06:28 2005 by Datheenker

I am the original poster of this thread. Someone asked me: "Why u always have to say that?" and now some of you have already answered that: because I started playing EQ2 and wanted to know how was WoW. By that time WoW was not available, was sold out and there was no way for me to try it; that is why i came here to ask the community.
That is why this thread is here, not because i wanted to critize or anything else any game.
I have my own personal experience from my time while i played EQ2. Dont want to say anything else about it. That's it...an experience.

Finally i got my own copy of WoW and started playing. Also not going to say anything else on that (if you want to know please read my previous posts above)...but i can say that i am still playing WoW.

Each game has its own individual characteristics and style, some prefer WoW, other EQ2 and some have brought into the forum EQ1.. well..leave to caesar what belongs to him, they say. Right?

This said, I DO have a comparison point of view, i think it is nice what they have done in EQ2 in terms of content but I wont go back to EQ2. Sorry. That is me.
I respect my fellow gamers that love EQ2, it is their choice and we should respect that. I think EQ2 will stay some time out there and will be improved big time by SOE, but regardless of that i wont go back.


SOE went too far and too low saying "our servers are always up, come play....bla, bla bla" , EVEN if that is true (which i doubt from my personal experience and, i know that may have changed since then), you never, never see other companies saying bad things or implying weaknesses of other companies or games.
First, i'd like to see them saying the same thing when they have the same amount of players as WoW. They have proven to be the most weak company in terms of support and customer service and stability....what? did they forget what happened to SWG?...
Have D&D ever said anything about EQ? NO. Did EVE OL said anything against SWG? NO. DAOC? NO. .......SO??
That is a low cornered-rat strategy and what that shows is that they are desperate trying to get their "quota" of players. Are they selling new "adventure packs"? well...they dont get it. Even being beaten they still try to get every penny from their players. That is sad. But the important thing is that it shows what the really intentions are.
Games are busines , i know, but blizzard has put a lot on terms of that. I have always received an answer to my tickets (mostly in-game service and if i logged, i will have an email next day with the solution). Server down? yes..sure..many times...but i have also received free game time for those days i couldn't play. I dont pay for extra chars, i did not have to pay for the new high level dungeons they just included....I even also received a survey about game issues, service and development.
And Blizzard has not ever, never mentioned anything against of EQ or any other game.

At the end, what I want to say is that WoW is a good game as EQ2 is. That depends on style of the player.
EQ2 is a good game itself, programmers and developers cannot be held responsible for company policies, but at the end is a whole package what u get.
Maybe I had my expectations too high. Reality is other thing.

Long live the Warriors!!

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Only if you want to buy them. I personally don't. But geez, they cost less than freaking chesseburger at McDonalds. Just how cheap are you to complain about something like that? Let's see.... hours and hours of new game content or, a cheeseburger? Okay go blow your money on a used box of condoms or something but one question, what on earth is wrong with offerring optional content - the key word here being optional of course. If you don't want to buy it then don't buy it. Pretty simple.




Okay. Just curious but when you decided to play WoW did you start a thread on some random WoW forum stating, "Pasho is playing WoW now!" Thanks for giving me the heads up so the next time I login so I'll know not to look for you amongst the hundreds of thousands of other players.

BTW, despite all the hype there seems to be a lot of whining and complaining on the WoW forums if you would direct yourself there and care to look, including a 134 page thread of people wanting a full month's refund because of the endless server crashes.

I've played both games. WoW is a good game for beginners and people that don't have a lot of time. But its child's play compared to EQ 2 and that's the truth. In fact, I would rate the game play and graphics beneath many single player RPG titles such as Morrowind. In truth, thats exactly what WoW is to me. A glorified single player game with high end PvP, i.e. a more sophisticated Diablo with crappier graphics (yea, I prefer Diablo's ancient graphics) to that /blah and /bland look that is WoW. At least Diablo's graphics have some depth to them. When I look at WoW's graphics I feel nothing in terms of visual stimulation. Just a boring looking game overall. The whole game looks like bad watercolor.

Any way, like I said. A word or two for those people that are thinking about buying one of these games and are looking for advice. EQ 2 is the superior game. Graphics, Depth of Gameplay, Character Development and Options, World Immersion, Roleplaying, Community, Crafting, Enivironments, Quests, Overall Challenge, User Interface (you can make your UI in EQ 2! How cool is that!?),etc. Heck there is even email in EQ 2 now LOL which totally cracks me up. If you want an easy game that might be fun for the short term then buy WoW. But if you want a game that has some meat to it and is ahead of technological curve in terms of graphics buy Everquest 2. That would be my advice.

I havent really figured out why you say EQ2 is so buggy....all those going to WoW...go youll be back...with less weight in your wallet and a lesson learned...from my experiance, while the graphics are nothing to brag about the gameplay from the EQOA on PS2..is waaay better than WoW...while i dont own WoW, i have a friend that did, but went back to his EQOA account. So to all those who dont like the childish stuff on WoW but want to come back to EQ2 when its less buggy...give EQOA a shot it a shot...gameplay is awesome once you get used to it=)

Whats wrong with grinding...i find it quite fun being a pally...if you want to ding quick..find me and lets get a grp...ill have you leveled in 2-3 hours...maybe 3-4 trips thorough RE. What happend to wanting XP...and hunting names...and looking for that perfect drop youve wanted for so long...this isnt fun making your character unique through hard work...why would i want SOE to give me a 50 pally for christmas...the fun is working up there..and being proud for the awe all the lower level characters give ya...EQ2 is a comptition to be the best...if youve lost that ambition youve lost your love for MMORPG