EQ2 or WoW>> Which is better??Follow

I have over 4 years with EQ and levelled two toons over 65. SOE shot themselves in the foot with poorly implemented fixes, incomplete expansions (did they ever finish the Berzerker class?) and the crappiest customer service in the industry. What tipped me to leave EQ was a boss raid for elemental flag. After 4 hours of working the dungeon and killing the boss, the server crashed. SOE didn't respond or refund the quest. That was way too painful and I decided... enough!

At that time, a lot of hype surrounding EQ II and I got lucky enough to participate in the Beta. First impressions were incredible. The boat ride tutorial to end up on that training island. The graphics and sound bits were amazing. Picked my city, Freeport I think, and off I went. The beta was still buggy for cities so the experience was a bit painful with lag and incomplete quests. However, after running all around town to get item A to quest giver B, I finally got to go outside. The fights were fun. But it didn't take long to realize that this was going to be another major xp grind and I just didn't have it in me. I decided to try and roll another character just for the heck of it... then you realize you have to do the exact same quests all over again. I never bought the retail and I don't intend to.

At that same time World of Warcraft was also in Beta which I was lucky enough to try out. The opening scene is breathtaking. The fly-by to your starting quest NPC instantly brought me into the game. Don't know why all the complaints about the graphics... it's a beautiful world! The first time I zoned I went: "Wow... I just stepped into the next zone!". And then, my first griffon flight... totally awesome. In many respects, this game is a lot of fun. To those who like the neccessity of pain and grind to level... well... good for you.

WoW brings back that little kid in me and I always have fun everytime I log on either through unrestricted exploration and wonderful adventures. The economy in WoW is healthy. It would be very difficult for the farmers to ruin it. Very decent gear can be obtained through quests or mob drops so you will never be at a great disadvantage. Of course I now have the retail version. I started on a PvE server to get to know the characters but I have since switched to PvP... my first PvP experience! It brings a totally new dynamic to the game.

I remember with EQ I tried to convince a friend of mine to join. He didn't like the experience of the grind... he didn't understand why that was necessary. This same friend is now playing in WoW and he's enjoying the game. This in itself speaks volumes to the credit of Blizzard.

I hope "fun" is here to stay!

There is no "grind" in WoW, and it's amazing. I don't really think it's any easier to level up. I still don't have a toon over lvl 20 (more on why) - it's just that the game and world are so much fun ... it doesn't feel like grinding.

EQ2 is ok til, oh, lvl 16 or so. Then exp comes much slower (or so it seems) - and the feeling of "grind" sets in. You look ahead at your spells/abs and think "what am I doing this for - nothing is going to change except that at lvl 20 I can turn into a cat or bear or wolf or whatever - but there is no major "game change" - my game life is not going to evolve."

I'm only in my teens on two toons in WoW cuz I'm having so much fun doing stuff other than leveling. I've been exploring the huge world and figuring out ways to make money. Yeah, like the poster ahead of me said, it brings out the kid in you to play WoW.

The graphics are actually good - and the *concepts* behind the visuals are actually innovative. There is no doubt you are in a fantasy world. Yes, the character models are much more limited. But I don't usually see my toon, so I don't care - plus the game itself is so much fun, again, I don't care.

Another reason there is "no grind" in wow is cuz there are more quests - and they are better distributed throughout the world and level range. In eq2 the quests seemed to pretty much stop at lvl 20, except for the insane "lose you real life" ones for the uber items (yeah, I'm gonna forage all that stinkin wood and iron for a dumb pair of boots that aren't really all that spectacular - gah - talk about grind - evil sadists).

Well, I'm just rambling. I'm a happy gnome again. GL all and have fun in whatever game you choose!

i love the quests in WoW, and they give so much exp and money and cool items. and ya, it does have the sence of danger, you cant just sprint away from a mob, when your running away they slow your run speed for like 10 seconds. the pvp is very fun, even if its just dueling other people or defending a town from horde. all the weapons and armor are really cool and unique and stuff and so are the races and classes. you can customize your class with talents so like you can be a dmg dealing warrior or a tank warrior and stuff. lvling is actually fun, unlike eq2 where i have to wait an hour for a group, have people die coming to the group then the group disbands before we kill anything then wait another hour for a group luckily we might get to a camp and kill stuff and then sit in the same place for hours until i cant take it anymore haha

the people who made wow actually had an imagination, they didnt just make the generic sword and grey armor and humans, they put thought into it, same with the environments and monsters and quests

in wow the graphics have style, they wanted to keep the feel of warcraft 3, eq2 seems like they just wanted to make the best graphics ever ya know and they look like plastic

the instances in wow are so cool, like gnomeregon and VC, they actually put thought into it! i wish eq2 had that

i still like eq2 though

its obvious that eq2 and wow were made for two kinds of people, casual people and people who are really in to it. like, in wow you can just make a char..like hey i wanna make a troll hunter bam there you go a troll hunter, in eq2 you have to do so much and it takes so much time just to get to lvl 20 and do all your class quests and stuff just to get your class then the grinding begins.

another cool thing about wow is the classes are all different, like wars use rage and it builds up the more you hit, and rogues use energy and get more damage if they make combos and some abilties they have can only be used at the end of a combo and stuff.

Edited, Tue Feb 8 15:20:20 2005 by mokuba

see i played WoW in beta and wasnt impressed , but all the people at my work did too and now they are telling me how much it has improved since then .
So I'm torn , I'm thinking of trying it but I only have about 10 hours a week (if that ) to play any game so I'm having a hard enough time doing anything in EQ much less having to split that time between WoW . Dunno , also a second monthly fee doesnt hit me too well either .
Maybe once i get a toon to 50 and do as much as i can in EQ ill hop on over and try WoW again .
Question tho , are the ammount of people who act immature that bad in WoW? Cause a couple ppl here at work say they are inundated with leet speakers and phat lewt dewds . Dunno if i can deal with all that .

If you really only have 10 hrs a week - yeah, just play one - although I don't see how you can get much done in eq2 on that time-budget. Well, you can get a lot done I guess - just no time for the "extra" stuff. I don't think I could adventure, tradeskill and do the high-end quests (or the lower high enders - go harvest 100 maple and 100 iron... gah - shades of the *shudder* dreaded &SHAWL& quest (okay not nearly as bad, but still - ugh).

I'm in normal pve servers in wow. I have a toon in two in case one is down, but so far there's been no crashes - no probs. Casinos in Ironforge are irritating, and there's the occasional leetboy. But I tell ya, my second or third day, my lil dwarf shouted to the city about advice on buying some new gear - think I wanted a new ax. This lvl 35 warrior came over and checked me out - then said 'stay here, I'll set u up' - minutes later he dumped a set of nice magic armor and a new ax on me! Free. He was very cool.

Like w/ any mmo just make friends w/ cool people, get in a good, mature guild, and ignore the whackos.

Btw if you're enjoying eq2, stay there and have fun. I'd only switch if eq2 is driving you mad (it was making me a very unhappy gnome). But eq2 is great for lotsa players, and even I'll admit it has a few ups on wow.

Well I think I'm convinced to look at WoW at least.

I had a lousy night last night - maybe because I'm not very well but it was full of bugs. Pet dying because "you cannot see your target" even when it is in front of us. Pet refusing to back off and fighting a gnoll up an inaccessible cliff (despite starting the attack on level ground). The only 4 solo mobs in the game for my quest being monopolised by a group. Another 13/14 quest blocked by a 23 doing it. Again one one spawn point in the whole game. Trains. Sprint not working - every time I hit sprint I stopped dead (once - literally dead).

And I think the worls graphics in EQ2 are wonderful. I turned off the grass because it hid things but the landscapes are excellent. But the character graphics are worse than EQ1. My Half-elf looked better in EQ1 than the plasticky character in EQ2.

And we still don't have cloaks!!

haha I do miss Izzy from time to time. He was great.

"I'm NOT a lizard" *wigs out*

Well I could have gone orc hunter - but I didn't like the way the orcs looked, and I wanted to play horde, I like Tauren but I made Raza and just busted out laughing because "he be talkin like dis mon" with that bad Miss Cleo accent.

Though I wonder how the Trolls from EQ2 would get along with their counterparts in WoW.

I'll say one thing. BOTH sorts of trolls like to talk about eating gnomes.

Duke. You get a rate down from Ivven the Great for that bit of nastiness.

Go flame elsewhere, this thread can do without it. We're being constructive here and most people are very willing to admit EQ2 and WoW are both good games in their own right.

We do not need trolls.

ffxi lvl 50 drk lvl 50 whm lvl 25 blm lvl 25 thief lvl 25 beast EQII lvl 34 mystic 29 tailor lvl 8 fgt 29 alchemist lvl 8 mage lvl 24 sage lvl 14 wizard lvl 3 artisan. WOW not even goin to metion the characters i have tried to create to have some fun with the game since i wasted money on it after readin about everyone saying it was the best mmorpg game which IMO it is the worst of the 3 mentioned above....... D&D should rock i hope :) EQ did get alot of things right and mess up alot of things lol they workin on it SOE has lots of money i hope lol i dont know i hate people bashin EQII if u dont like it then dont play it.... Go play WOW and solo ur life away or PVP ur friends & enemies away with an almighty strikin blow of death.

Ivven I gave u a couple of rateups to balance out whatever some leetboy did to ya.

As to the last poster, I'm enjoying WoW just fine, pve - and a tiny amount of pvp. I'm also exploring the HUGE world and am in business. Yes, I'm buying parrots in booty bay - and doing all sorts of other cool stuff.

I'm not rocketing up in levels, and yeah, like in any game, if you only grind where it's "safe" and easy - you don't die and it can get boring. But WoW gives me so many different areas to hunt, and while I hunt I need to clear areas to get to mining nodes -and selling mined ores actually makes decent money in WoW.

I'm finding WoW is just tons of fun. It probably isn't as bone-grindingly hard as Eq1 or EQ2 at the higher levels (in terms of needing sooooo much exp to level), but I don't care. I don't get to play that much, so an hour here, three hours ther e- I'm doing fine. I can get significant stuff done in that time.

Well, GL all in whatever mmo you gravitate toward. EQ2 does have it's virtues, and I am hoping they make it playable for me. I'm not sure btw that the recent test patch that kills alchemists is the way to go, btw. Interdependency is fine, kind of cook actually, but *only*, and I repeat *only* w/ an easy to use off-line auction house system - not this dorky on-line stand in your apt staring at the walls POS that SoE has forced on us and stubbornly won't fix! Gah!

Well, for all of you saying that RP servers are waaay better than PvP servers in WoW, well that is not exactly the truth. That really depends on the style of each player.

I have a Hunter lvl 23 on a PvP server and another Hunter lvl 13 in a RP server.
I almost can hear to some of you saying "what a geek..two hunters??" well, my reason to do that is because i really want to know the difference of game play with a toon with same powers and abilities.

The experience is waay different:
In PvP i have always to be in an alert and awareness state, you have to be stealth, you have to know when to pull your pet or not (visibility), and to know when and what to attack. One cannot simply go around wandering and hunting for xp. It is different knowing when you are going to be hit than not knowing it and be always in the lookout.
I sometimes like groups but i usually do things alone. U cant imagine the feeling of being alone in enemy territory, surrounded by horde, trying to complete your quest....man!! that is awesome!!!
In the RP server things are much more quiet. You can go wherever you want as fast as you want without worrying about your lvl and the zone. i.e. A night elf lvl 1 can go directly to Ironforge (8 zones further)the first day without getting killed once. Yes..you can PvP too in those servers, but it is different. You always have the time to gather your party, plan your attack, you have to look out for other horde group that also wants PvP, etc, etc....i mean, that kills the whole emotion and action!!! (Well, at least for me).

About the community: at least in my pvp server (deathwing) community is really mature, i dont see all that you guys say about jerks all the time. I mean, the same thing as in any other game.

Other consideration to have in mind to choose a server, could be the amount of time you have to play: completing quests and getting xp in a PvP server will require more time than in RP servers. So, if you do not have that much time and want to achieve things faster, i'd recommend RP servers.

I am totally sucked up by WoW!!! what a great game.... now battlegrounds are coming, and also heard some rummors (dunno if true or not) about future Hero classes....i mean, this game really have a bunch of things not available in other MMO (so far).

I can only say this: Having my lvl 23 hunter killing a lvl 26 shaman horde, by myself, using only my skills and my strategy is the closest thing to a WoWgasmn!!! lol.. :)
My 5 cents on this.

Pasho.

Kilrogg