HELP!! Need motivation to continue with EQ2Follow

Hiya mates,
I need a little motivation here guys...I just finished my "Isle of Refuge" part, and personally, i found it a little dull....
Don't know..maybe i'm wrong, but i played SWG for a year or so, and so far, that one was better....the crafting part, the profession trees...maybe was a little out of content (at that time).....
Well, I'd like to have a little input from you all, maybe I'm pushing too hard here.. I'd hate to say that i spent $50 bucks on a game that is not as good as i expected....
I always heard that EQ ruled...that nothing in MMORPG can be compared to EQ so...i moved to EQ2...bad move?? don't know...

Please help me.

Pasho.

if bored, simply don't renew your monthly subscription. Boredom of EQ2 solved.

Or....
Spend some of your time reading thru these forums, be pro-active. Find out what other players like about the game, read about the quests, tradeskilling.

There are SO MANY threads about the cool aspects of this game vs others like SWG and FFXI. Read those! Come on!

Get off the island and pickup a tradeskill. Try to find the one that will be the most profitable. Now sit in your instance for hours on end every day and every night and toil away. Buy a second account so you can have a mule sell for you while you play and continue crafting your *** off! After you bank eveything you make for about 1 month, then decide you don't like this game, give all your money to me and quit. Oh and I'll take over the high lvl artisan account as well, just delete the mule.

I'm glad you listened to Iaini. The game got a lot cooler for me when I hit level 10, and even cooler when I hit 20. If I get bored, I do something else for a few days. This game is so much more relaxed than what I'm used to (FFXI), and I don't feel as intense a dread of being left in the dust in this game. It's leisurely and friendly in my opinion, for the casual or the hardcore.

the game gets much better after 20 and you get your class

Zones like Cazic Thule, Permafrost, Lavastorm and Solusek's Eye is what this game is all about in my opinion...alot of the lower level zones did seem boring...well not boring but definitley not as fun as lower level zones in EQ live. As a dark character zones like Wailing Caves and Fallen Gate were fun only for a couple days...then it was just a boring xp grind. You should do the access quests...most zones have sub-zones that you can explore to change it up a bit. I thought about quitting a few times but now I'm having alot of fun.

What did I mean by that? Damned good question. I don't design MMO's for a living - just keep that in mind when you ask me such a question. But I do recall that for months the pre-release hype for EQ2 was talking about some radically innovative stuff. Go back and look at the old hype - my fingers hurt too much for me to type it here. But I was expecting some really cool stuff.

Okay, the graphics are great. My footsteps "echo" when I run through tunnels. Cool! But like the old TV ads "WHERE'S THE BEEF?!" - I want to know where the "content" is? If we got a "next generation" look (and echoing footsteps) - where the heck is the "next generation" of "stuff to do" - what I'm calling content? Where is the creativity and innovation????

Well, there are wisps of it. See, I think they had a whole team or more working on this sort of stuff - and - I dunno - maybe it never worked out - maybe they rushed to beat WoW to marktet - I dunno. I know people who workin in the gaming biz - I don't see them a lot any more - I'll ask them and see if they know. Where do I see these teeny wisps of creativity? There is a cave, kinda hard to find - but do Pecket's Patrol in Antonica - and u'll get a huge hint (it's near where it ends) - and you find a cave full of gnolls creating rotstuff scarecrows - just like the ones out in the farmer's field. That's great! I just found that today - and I love it! Wish I'd seen it earlier. There are other examples like this, but way way way too few.

And there's almost none in the department of spells, abilities and tactics. Okay we get fun fluff spells. Whee. Actually that's decent, I'm happy about it - but not blown away. The thing we do most in the game - fighting - is the most backwater, derivative, stole- borrowed heavily from other old games (daoc and ff) part of EQ2 !!!!! Gah! Those of us who see this and recognize it for what it means - we are shocked, depressed, let down - whatever - we hate it. Okay? Sure, we like other parts of it too, most of us. But this - and the on-line selling - and only 4 characters period - and a lot of these harsh and profit-sucking moves SoE has made - frankly has already made a lot of us go over to WoW.

Go over to WoW. Read the guide on getting a Hunter from 1 to 20. Seriously - go to Alla's WoW site and read it. Learn what they did w/ their version of the beastlord, the Hunter - how he has to go catch his pets, train them and keep them happy - and board them if he wants to get another ---- and he can learn a skill from a new pet - then teach it to an old pet he had in a stall! That's some seriously creative stuff - it's new and innovative. EQ2 has nothing to compare to that in the area of spells, combat, fighting, tactics etc. I'm not trying to say WoW is such a great game overall - I've never played it - I want to try it now - but hell, it might suck out loud. But they at least got something doen that eq2 didn't. They at least in that one area advanced the envelope.

Now - tradeskillin - a lot of you might say "evil, aren't you forgetting tradeskillin - that's pretty rad. And... I dunno - i hate tradeskillin - personally I want it to be done as fast as possible. I'm not a big fan of this sitting there making stuff crap - and if I'd designed the game, I'd have given the non-artisan the option to give the collected junk to an NPC craftsman to make the darn thing for you - heheh sorry to all who love crafting! (evil now ducks for cover knowing bombs are coming). I jsut find the whole EQ2 tradeskill thing a ... it's not for me. And again, back to what most players spend most of their time doing - there was no major content innovation there - in fact - it went retrograde - they consolodated, simplified - and made it narrow, controlled and lacking in variation or options. And it's making me sick, cuz I wanna be playing EQ2 for the cool stuff, for the parts they got right - and yet the parts they screwed up weigh me down like 10 ton anchors. Oh well. I guess I'm crazy to think that. Or just --> I don't mean to wear you people down. Sorry if I ruin your experience or sour your fun. But SoE really needs to give us a better game that this. Or maybe I am asking for too much. Yeah, maybe we need advanced AI to get the "next generation" I want. But I don't think so. Yeah, these games are ... they boil down to grinding for exp and gear. But something creative could have been done to make this process more interesting/rewarding/better whatever. That's how I feel.

I'm guessing you just went through Isle of Refuge as fast as you could?

There's a crafting tutorial on the island. Quite a few people get to level 9 in artisan before even leaving the island.

Not only that, but the island tutorial clues you in to just about every aspect of gameplay. Most people just click the little text box off of their screen without paying attention though. That's useful stuff! Read it.

If you do all of the quests on the island, and work on your harvesting and crafting skills to the best of your ability there, you should be prepared for anything that the game will throw at you once you get to your main city.

No one is suggesting that you start a new character. -_- And for the record, I never played EQLive (well, not until after I had played EQ2), so I'm not working from some sort of informed standpoint.

There is a tradeskill tutorial on the island. When you finish your quest for Garven Tralk, the narrator guy tells you to speak with Assistant Dreak, who will tell you about tradeskills.

Now, if you didn't do that tutorial, all is still not lost. There are lots of guides and whatnot out there. You just have to look for them. Check out the official forums, or EQ2Traders.com or something. You can't just expect everything to be handed to you.

I'm going to be brutal here, because I haven't had much sleep, and my coffee hasn't kicked in yet. Are you retarded or something? Because the learning curve on this game is not steep. At all. Seriously. NOT.

If you want everything to be handed to you, go play a console RPG. Because any online RPG (including WoW) isn't going to hand everything to you on a silver platter. You actually have to work at it!

Edited, Tue Jan 11 10:20:39 2005 by Miravelle

Miravelle is correct. EQ2 is designed so that even a mentally retarded ape could pick it up in 5 minutes. It was designed so simply and straightforward, that's the thing i hate the most about it honestly. If you can't understand how to play after the isle tutorial you should probably try a simpler game like diablo.

ok, kids... let's all breathe for a second...

many people skated through the island, not understanding or taking advantage of the learning experience available there. it happens. impatience doesn't equate to a low iq, just a lack of foresight.

crafting: http://eq2.eqtraders.com has excellent guides.

y'all have a better day.