Yesterday I grouped with a bunch of complete newbies. It was fun and I got to teach them stuff about how to fight, why to drink and eat and how to make macros.
Strange thing was we were all lvl 18 so the lack of knowledge from their side surprised me alot. We fought our way down to the spiders in BB and I showed em the secret room with the 2 quest NPC's. One of the guys tried swimming down but he just couldnt.. He tried jumping to get deeper so I said: "Hmm.. You have to zoom to 1st person to be able to dive". He asked me how to do that and I explained so down he went... And drowned.. DOH!
Here is when I did my misstake.. I tried to rezz him but when rezzed he didnt have any breath and low health ofcourse so he died right away before I could toss EB buff on him. More debt. :( Now everyone disbanded and the poor guy didnt got a chance to retrive his shard and I had no time to put together a new group.
Basicly my whole group was this much of newbies.. Before this group all newbies I encountered were when I was lvl 2-13. Have you encountered this at this 'high' lvls? I guess it is because the game has been out for some time now and this will be more of a common thing even at higher lvls?
Not that I dont mind grouping with the newbies that really wants to learn, on the countrary, I love helping out. Just wonder if this is becoming more common.
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I donno if I've been with people that bad around lvl 17+ but you find some interesting things. I've got 2 20+ characters and just found out yesterday that /showhood removes the helmet graphic if you don't want it.
At lvl 22 I had to teach 3 people in a group what a Main Tank was and how to assist him. Also at lvl 22 my guild leader just discovered the alt W thing that gives you waypoints to group members and sometimes a few other places. Had a good time making fun of him on that one.
If you group with people that don't know anything you can't learn from them. Probably a very rare occurance to be 17 and completely neive to the whole thing but it is possible. That drowning thing when rezzed i will have to remember though. Kinda funny and sad at the same time.
At lvl 22 I had to teach 3 people in a group what a Main Tank was and how to assist him. Also at lvl 22 my guild leader just discovered the alt W thing that gives you waypoints to group members and sometimes a few other places. Had a good time making fun of him on that one.
If you group with people that don't know anything you can't learn from them. Probably a very rare occurance to be 17 and completely neive to the whole thing but it is possible. That drowning thing when rezzed i will have to remember though. Kinda funny and sad at the same time.
I do like helping people but I cant seem to understand how people can know so little.
Why do they ask were BB entrance is when they are lvl 18? How can I find you? Why should I drink and eat? Why should I use /assist rather then autoassist? Why should there be a main healer? what is a MA? What is a MT? etc etc..
Then I remember I hate my job so I sit all day reading about EQ2 instead of working and I have played EQ1 aswell.. Then I start my teaching lessons.. :P
First and most important lesson I give is to learn how to find facts. Telling them about allakhazam and google.
A tip for newbies: Print a map of antonica/commonlands.
Why do they ask were BB entrance is when they are lvl 18? How can I find you? Why should I drink and eat? Why should I use /assist rather then autoassist? Why should there be a main healer? what is a MA? What is a MT? etc etc..
Then I remember I hate my job so I sit all day reading about EQ2 instead of working and I have played EQ1 aswell.. Then I start my teaching lessons.. :P
First and most important lesson I give is to learn how to find facts. Telling them about allakhazam and google.
A tip for newbies: Print a map of antonica/commonlands.
I prefer targetting the tank and keeping them targetted the whole battle that way everybody is always hitting the mob the tank is. all my bars are taken up as is with skills, i don't bother with a macro. no need in such a well designed game.
As a healer targeting MT is good since you can heal, melee and nuke without any real risk.
Thing is everyone should stay on ONE target until it is dead but sometimes the MT needs to change target to taunt a mob that agroed someone else, you dont want everyone to change target.
Ofcourse this is not important if you kill easy mobs then its ok to 'slack' and autoassist imo but when fighting tougher mobs this is not an option.
Thing is everyone should stay on ONE target until it is dead but sometimes the MT needs to change target to taunt a mob that agroed someone else, you dont want everyone to change target.
Ofcourse this is not important if you kill easy mobs then its ok to 'slack' and autoassist imo but when fighting tougher mobs this is not an option.
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I have 3 char all at LvL 12...
And i am still really a newbie, i dont have a clue about most things and he wrold of freeport.. There is just no way of finding out, not many people want to group and it seems whoever do are friendly as anything but know nothin more than me so there is no way to learn.. I hope there is more people like you bumbi that are happy to teach others!!
And i am still really a newbie, i dont have a clue about most things and he wrold of freeport.. There is just no way of finding out, not many people want to group and it seems whoever do are friendly as anything but know nothin more than me so there is no way to learn.. I hope there is more people like you bumbi that are happy to teach others!!
The thing is, after about the first month there was already a wide distinction of people who knew how to play and 'newbs'. In no way meant as an insult, the 'newbs' were still either under 10, around mid-teens if they were smart newbs, that isn't to say that a few new players didnt level fast as well as a few very experienced players just taking their sweet time, just that as a general rule, you could see a distinction.
Now with that in mind, today, even with as little time that has passed, you are really only starting to see some of the newbies hit 20. Most are still mid-teens and under. While most of the experienced players are approaching and passing level 30, 40, or even hitting 50.
I'm not a power-gamer, but me and most of my guildies are former long-term eq1 players, and ide say the majority of our original members are between 24 and 30. And that is just from casual play.
Now with that in mind, today, even with as little time that has passed, you are really only starting to see some of the newbies hit 20. Most are still mid-teens and under. While most of the experienced players are approaching and passing level 30, 40, or even hitting 50.
I'm not a power-gamer, but me and most of my guildies are former long-term eq1 players, and ide say the majority of our original members are between 24 and 30. And that is just from casual play.
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Ofcourse this is not important if you kill easy mobs then its ok to 'slack' and autoassist imo but when fighting tougher mobs this is not an option.
I'd second this.
The autoassist is all very well for healing classes but I need to be on the right mob so I can see what is going on.
If we had a really nice feature like EQ's HoTT (Health of Target's Target) which gave you a second target box showing the hp of what your target had then it might not be as necessary.
There are several reasons for wanting to be targetting the mob rather than the tank.
The first is one of economy. If the mob is almost dead I don't want to be unleashing a power-hungry nuke or special attack. As a ranger I like to use Shadowblade but it has a looong refresh. Using that on a dead mob is extremely annoying. Mages must feel the same about heavy nukes, especially the Mastery ones.
The second is that with the tank targetted autoattack does not turn off when the target is dead but just spams you out with "you cannot attack your present target". At this point accidentally clicking a nearby mob can cause serious problems.
Third is the fact that it totally wrecks your chance to break the encounter. If you have a player targetted and they die you will have "corpse of ..." targetted. Hit /yell and you just get a smug response about having to target an opponent in order to break the encounter. You have to re-target and then /y - all this at a time when you'd rather be sprinting!
Personally I'm not a fan of the Main tank changing targets to pull mobs off other people. They should be toe to toe with the main target and leave "peeling" to others. In fact with AE taunt from an early level they should be able to stay on the main target and still peel mobs. They might change targets for strategic reasons - ie kill the healer before he heals the mob you're fighting - but I don't like to see them wandering about chasing loose aggro. This is especially true in EQ2 where multiple mob pulls are normal and you really have to concentrate on knocking them down one at a time rather than chase all over the place for strays.
Wherever I go - there I am.
in your in-game settings you can play with your text bubble, health bar, etc options.
There is a setting to display all health/power bars over each sprites head. Also, mousing over targets will display their health/power bars over their heads. The only time it is difficult then is when you are fighting giants in 3rd person, and even in 1st person, but not as much.
There is a setting to display all health/power bars over each sprites head. Also, mousing over targets will display their health/power bars over their heads. The only time it is difficult then is when you are fighting giants in 3rd person, and even in 1st person, but not as much.
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There is a setting to display all health/power bars over each sprites head.
Thanks for that. However I find that stealth etc often has me looking down and the mob's head is all over the place. I'll try it and see if it helps. A static HoTT is easier on the eye.
Wherever I go - there I am.
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Since we're on about newbies...thats pretty much me and im lvl 20! Just wondering how do you attack using ranged weapons? Ive equipped the ranged weapons and ive got my melee weapons equipped but when I attack something I only go into melee....how do I choose to use ranged attacks? Oh yeah one more thing how do people know the number og say gnolls they've killed?(plz dont say its cos they've counted!:) Finally when and where can you get gold pieces im finding that to get all the good stuff I need loads, im lvl 20 and Ive only got 200silver
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First off, Cobra, bravo. Great post and, IMO, right on the money.
Ranged attacks are initiated by putting some (not a lot) distance between you and the mob and simply clicking either the ranged attack hotkey (looks like an archery target) or one of your special ranged attack hotkeys (back shot, wounding arrow, open shot, etc.). When playing my ranger against a hard mob, I try to position myself behind it. When my ranged attacks have refreshed, a take a coule steps back (I use third person to check whats behind me) and use all of my ranged attacks. Then I step up and click melee attack - special melee as needed. Rinse and repeat till dead.
People know how many kills they have because there are "wanted" posters in Qeynos and FP that tell you how many kills you have of certain mobs. In Qeynos, it is in NQ on a lamp post, on your left as you face the zone in to Antonica. In FP, it is outside the Militia house in WF. They are hard to target sometimes. Right click to read your status.
As far as money goes, I have made about 4 or 5 gold among a few toons, all at or under level 20. I do as many quests as I can, sell my old gear on trader, sell unneeded harvested items (always post the lowest price at the time) and sell my tradeskilled items. My weaponsmith made over 100 silver in a 24 hour period by selling forged iron long swords in trader mode. In order to make the most money, I crafted every subcompnent I could rather than buying, for example, tempers from the wholesaler.
Hope that helps.
Ranged attacks are initiated by putting some (not a lot) distance between you and the mob and simply clicking either the ranged attack hotkey (looks like an archery target) or one of your special ranged attack hotkeys (back shot, wounding arrow, open shot, etc.). When playing my ranger against a hard mob, I try to position myself behind it. When my ranged attacks have refreshed, a take a coule steps back (I use third person to check whats behind me) and use all of my ranged attacks. Then I step up and click melee attack - special melee as needed. Rinse and repeat till dead.
People know how many kills they have because there are "wanted" posters in Qeynos and FP that tell you how many kills you have of certain mobs. In Qeynos, it is in NQ on a lamp post, on your left as you face the zone in to Antonica. In FP, it is outside the Militia house in WF. They are hard to target sometimes. Right click to read your status.
As far as money goes, I have made about 4 or 5 gold among a few toons, all at or under level 20. I do as many quests as I can, sell my old gear on trader, sell unneeded harvested items (always post the lowest price at the time) and sell my tradeskilled items. My weaponsmith made over 100 silver in a 24 hour period by selling forged iron long swords in trader mode. In order to make the most money, I crafted every subcompnent I could rather than buying, for example, tempers from the wholesaler.
Hope that helps.
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Thanks for the help but still wondering what mobs or quests give out gold pieces or platinum pieces or haven't they been made yet....
I have not heard of any coin drops yet. Just phat (and not so phat) lewtz.
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Now with that in mind, today, even with as little time that has passed, you are really only starting to see some of the newbies hit 20. Most are still mid-teens and under. While most of the experienced players are approaching and passing level 30, 40, or even hitting 50.
No not really true. I played EQ for almost 5 years and have been at this from day 1 and I am only 21 with my 2nd main :)
My main was a mystic got him to 20L but got bored and started a summoner and he is at 17L but got tired of that and started a SK he is 21L so how is that making someone a newbie? Its not, lets not assume that some one is a newbie due to there level. Its the same as me saying your stupid cuz your under 25 years old.
Some peeps just do exp grind 20 hours a day. I play at night for a couple hours and most of the time I spend doing guild stuff to mates or just doing crafting. Me I think there is no reason to exp grind to 50, what you going to do when you get there? Twink an alt? Nope that won't work. PL your alts? Nope that won't work eather. Exp on toon is no way of tell if someone is a newbie, I know of 2 peeps never played before EQ2 and both are at mid 30's already but they still don't know jack about the game. They just have friends or guild mates who drag them along in the game.
So think about it before you call that 2L toon a newbie, a new toon maybe but new to the game maybe not.
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I have not heard of any coin drops yet. Just phat (and not so phat) lewtz.
I think you will never see coin drop from a mob, and really other then buying Adapts if you don't make your own or doing crafting what little coin you do get is more then enough. I buy my adapts tho I have 2 rares now to use in trade, and pay for my house and mend my gear now and then and have never run out of cash. I just don't think you will see a need till way high level for any large amounts of cash. But by then you will be making it too.
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