Help get the economy settled so we can get some work done.Follow

edit-- this post was adapted from an earlier reply I made to another thread, but figured I'd make it more prominent as I feel it's important.--
I too sell things I'm going to use for personal at high prices, not just with rare harvests but anything I plan on using for myself. This is symptomatic of an overall epidemic of crafter greed and ignorance running rampant in the game. Take iron spike for example. I get workshop tasks that require I make 10 items that require Iron Spikes. As a scholar I need to get these from an outfitter as it's a level 10 outfitter recipe. To my surprise the lowest listed price for these was 10sp. !!! Then I looked up eolith tempers, the scholar item needed to make the iron spikes... 5sp!! It's really no wonder people are selling things at inflated prices. I'm thinking they make things for their own use and then maybe a couple extra for sale at extremely high prices in case someone really really really wants them.

Rather than spend 1.5GP on a workshop task that would take 2-3 hours to do and only yeild 32sp (oh freakin yay)I actually rolled up a secondary character, levelled him to 10 and turned off combat XP so he can farm artisan recipe books in lowby areas, and made him an outfitter. There, baboom... now I can make iron spikes all freakin day for coppers on the gold. I sold 3 "extra" iron spikes from my new guy (who's name is incidentally "spike" and who has a spiky mohawk) for 3 weeks of rent. I also sold all the extra eolith tempers that were on spike for grossly inflated prices (2sp each which is still a pretty high price, but considering i have to do a shared bank x-fer fair.) So basically, prices are high on things because people plan on using them for personal but figure if people want to pay a premium for them they'll go for it.

The lesson to be learned here is, there's a huge opportunity to make money right now in crafting base materials. If someone wanted to make 5 stacks of 20 eolith tempers they could sell them in one session for 1sp each. They cost: a candle, an iron cluster, and a water to make 4, which comes out to about 3cp for 1sp. That's a huuuuge profit and the demand is enormous. Here's to hoping people stop being stupid. I look forward to the economy normalizing at reasonable prices and the only way this will happen is if people like myself point out the obvious. Go out there and make a bundle people.. by selling at reasonable prices. I shouldn't have to roll up 3 characters to make all my crossclass-subcomponents. I should be able to buy those 10 spikes at 15sp at the very most.

Consider this, the 10 attacks I made and turned in for 32sp to the wholesaler would have sold on the open market for 2gp at a modest 20sp each. What did I get for my 2 hours? (just combine time, not harvesting. etc) I got 32sp and 100 points for my society. Somethings wrong here, and I daresay I don't think SOE should have to adjust the wholesaler payout for workshop tasks. If they do, it will only create inflation, but as it stands it's not practical to do most workshop tasks.

i had this happen earlier as well. it's not just you ;).

i'm known irl for having more faith in people than they have in themselves :).

well, yes anyone can scribe the level 10 books from the other tradeskill classes... for now. There is a rumor that this was never inytended and will be taken out of the game, but as of now that's only a rumor.

The thing that will balance out some of these inflated prices is the leveling of the crafting socioties. The Noob one I joined when I first started playing was at level 5-6 at the time, and sold the fossil tempers etc for i believe 12 cp or so... Now it is at level 12, and started selling the Eolith tempers as well, for i believe 24 cp. which is still kind of high considering it takes 12cp to make up to 4 of them yourself if you get pristine, or 3cp each. If you harvest the raw material and make them yourself that is... (6cp for the coal, and 6cp for the mineral water) heck, if you looted canine saliva, you could make them even cheaper, only having to pay for the coal... but being able to use the aerated mineral water for 6cp each, it's losing money to use looted liquids which usually sell for a lot more than that.

I also noticed that on the broker there are some folks that maybe don't realize that the prices they are listing are for each individual temper/wash/iron cluster, etc... I have seen someone trying to sell a Stroma wash for a gold... the only answer i can even concieve as to why they would do this is that maybe they are thinking they are pricing the whole stack?

I have a level 12 Outfitter who has been unable to scribe any books since the last general skill one at Artisan 9. I've had the Outfitter 10 one for a couple weeks now but, when I click on Scribe, it does absolutely nothing.

Adiemus- Mabey you haven't chosen your trade class yet, if you are a Qeynos citizen, you need to speak to a guy in Q harbor by the docks. Don't recall his name off hand, but is in the large open building in corner. Not sure who ya need to see in Freeport.

He obviously does if he's a lvl 12 OUTFITTER

I agree I have a tailor friend who made me 10 and 12 slot containers in exchange for patterns... Besides we all know how liitle the real cost to make this stuff is so why such a big pool of rip offs. But you keep you high prices becouse while you try to over price something I have already sold 100 times what you have at a fraction of the cost and am still making more money than you... so I say again please if you over priced sellers are out there I support you :)