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#1 Dec 19 2004 at 9:27 PM Rating: Decent
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HI, I have a bit of a situationa and I was wondering if anyone here could shed some light for me, and if anyone here has experienced the same problems. So, I will begin.

I have a P 3.02 Ghz processor with 512 mb of Ram and a N-Vidia G-Force FX go 5300 64 bit card.

I can Run HL 2, Farcry, Doom 3, FF XI all of them at medium to high with no problems at all. But for some reason EQ 2 is goiving me a headache, I experience serious lag, and or drop in FPS. I have to basically run the game on Extremely high Performance, and even then I experience lag in crowded areas. Now this cannot be my machine can it? surely if it can run the likes of HL 2 and Doom3 then it can run EQ2.

I would like to know if anyone knows of a solution and or has anyone experienced this for themselves. There must be something odd at work here, I am thouroughly emjoying EQ2, but I fear that this lack in stability may force me to leave.

any suggestions?
#2 Dec 19 2004 at 10:14 PM Rating: Decent
I would have to say it's a combination of a few things.512 ram is the minimum spec and lag can be quite heavy with this amount.The video card could definitly be playing a major factor where is is only 64 mb.when i had 512 ram i would see some serious lag in citys and also after zoning about 5 or 6 times load times and lag would be bad.Here are my system specs atm and with this i can run on a balanced setting.

dell
1.8g p4
768 ddr ram
bfg geforce 6800 gt OC.

As far as I know adding more ram is like a difference between night and day. 1g is recommended.
#3 Dec 19 2004 at 10:21 PM Rating: Default
I'd say 1gig ram is the "TRUE" minimum amount. I have 768 it was playable. but did lag up after a while. with 1gig the choppiness issues are pretty much eradicated.
#4 Dec 19 2004 at 10:51 PM Rating: Decent
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O.O

I'm getting this game and i have 512mb ram and 1.4ghz amd ><... im scared ;)... but I hear it works still.. just got to save and buy some new comp parts.

Goodluck on getting your game working better, your specs look awesome compared to mine!
#5 Dec 20 2004 at 2:37 AM Rating: Good
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1GB is a good start but with the EQ2 client program still developing memory leaks, you might want to consider just restarting the PC every 2-3 hours or so.

Case in point: 1GB RAM, 512MB Virtual RAM. EQ2 only takes up barely 500MB of physical RAM but Task Manager [unreliable, I know] shows over 1GB of total ram usage AND free physical RAM is just a few thousand KB. This will happen in certain zones [TS, CoB, Nek/etc] and is most noticeable when the game loads a new particle effects/etc. [2GB RAM is advisable to eliminate most of the performance issues stemming from RAM]

I know it's not just my PC alone as my entire group will start complaining at the same time as all our PCs start texture trashing at the same time. When you're hunting orange ^^ mobs and the healer's "AFK" for 2-3 seconds, it can be bad for the tank.

Still I play on a 1GB PC [6800GT] and a 1GB notebook [ATI mob 9600], both are quite ok if I just take the time to restart every 2-3 hours.
#6 Dec 20 2004 at 2:43 AM Rating: Decent
My girlfriend has a 1GHz amd, 384MB of ram, gf5700 and it flows decent unless you are in a city.
Getting her more ram for x-mas tho.. :)

A note about memory leaks..
There is no need to reboot your computer, relogg is all that is needed since OS memory leaks are very rare and are often fixed a day or two after they are discovered.

Edited, Mon Dec 20 02:47:06 2004 by BumbiRagnar
#7 Dec 20 2004 at 11:44 AM Rating: Decent
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I cannot belive what I have just read, you a customer are quite happy with this situation?, my god. For starters, the The system specs given on the back of the EQ2 box is utter crap, and SOE, you know it. I hope if anyone from SOE were to stumble across this that they would feel bad, as you have clearly made a an attempt to gather mass and casual market support by placing reasonable system specs on the box. This is not on, if you say it will run on a certain system. Then it should!, no excuses. Point number 2, having gotten the game running ASPHE SCHOLAR you are quite happy to have to restart and experience techincal diffficulties evry few hours?, you shouldn't be so forgiving. This is a MMORPG, not barbies horse riding challange 6, you can't just re-start when in the middle of a raid ect:, you will find it hard to get into groups when suffering from the above.

To be honest I am impressed with EQ, and I was enjoying it, but the simple fact is (running on a Laptop) that I cannot afford to get 2 gigs of Ram at this time of the year, and SONY! you said it would run on my 3.02 GHz 512, and 64 bit machine, well it doesn't and you owe me an apology. And as I see it many others to. Be honest with your games not, decieving!
#8 Dec 20 2004 at 12:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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First of all your problem is not SOE or your 512 RAM. The problem is your laptop GPU. Sorry to say but a Go5300 sucks when it comes to video power. You wanna play on a laptop go buy an Alienware, that's about all that can handle a game like this in the laptop category.

Those other games you listed play ok to good, because they don't use extensive pixel shaders(except Farcry and Doom) which I'd be willing to bet is the worst performer. Don't complain about specs that SOE puts out. If I remember corrctly there are min and Recommended. Which should be obvious to everyone. Min means can you play it? yes? ok have a nice day. Recommended means Yay you can play with no issues..

As for having to restart every few hours hey it sucks but you know what? That's what you get for wanting to play on a laptop. Sorry get used to it.

Edited, Mon Dec 20 12:28:48 2004 by Jute
#9 Dec 20 2004 at 1:19 PM Rating: Default
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I'd say 1gig ram is the "TRUE" minimum amount. I have 768 it was playable. but did lag up after a while. with 1gig the choppiness issues are pretty much eradicated.


It may seem to have fixed it but if you zone enough it will lag up again. And its zoning that makes it start lagging not playing in the same zone. I can be in any city zone when I start and I have no lag (AMD +2000 and 9600xt and 512 mem) But everytime I zone it gets just that much worse. I think even with 2 gigs of ram you would reach a limit to the number of zones you could make before it started lagging again. better programing would be a better fix I would think.


#10 Dec 20 2004 at 1:23 PM Rating: Decent
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Mr Jute the Hand sage, you obviously don't appreciate the situation so don't reply if all your gonna do is slag my Laptop, besides I asked for solutions not resolutions!
#11 Dec 20 2004 at 1:28 PM Rating: Good
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I cannot belive what I have just read, you a customer are quite happy with this situation?, my god. For starters, the The system specs given on the back of the EQ2 box is utter crap, and SOE, you know it. I hope if anyone from SOE were to stumble across this that they would feel bad, as you have clearly made a an attempt to gather mass and casual market support by placing reasonable system specs on the box. This is not on, if you say it will run on a certain system. Then it should!, no excuses. Point number 2, having gotten the game running ASPHE SCHOLAR you are quite happy to have to restart and experience techincal diffficulties evry few hours?, you shouldn't be so forgiving. This is a MMORPG, not barbies horse riding challange 6, you can't just re-start when in the middle of a raid ect:, you will find it hard to get into groups when suffering from the above.

To be honest I am impressed with EQ, and I was enjoying it, but the simple fact is (running on a Laptop) that I cannot afford to get 2 gigs of Ram at this time of the year, and SONY! you said it would run on my 3.02 GHz 512, and 64 bit machine, well it doesn't and you owe me an apology. And as I see it many others to. Be honest with your games not, decieving!


Well, at first you did ask for a solution so I gave you one. Sorry you didn't catch it. Don't play on a laptop. The requirements are to stiff for most laptops.

But then you went into how SOE duped us all and that if it says 64MB then you should be able to play it at 64 MB blah, blah, some words, blah , blah. SOE sucks and are liars.

But it simply isn't thier fault, you wanna play with minimum specs expect minimum results.

The Solution is to upgrade!!!!

Edited, Mon Dec 20 13:33:12 2004 by Jute
#12 Dec 20 2004 at 1:43 PM Rating: Decent
Upgrading to 1G of RAM helped me immeasurably. I experience very little lag. Most of my lag comes from running the game at High Quality on a 2.1 GHz machine with a GeForce FX5500 128MB card.

One issue that increased my performance A LOT, was that I hadn't realized it, but my graphics card had antialiasing turned on. Once I turned that off, I noticed the frame rate increased by about 20 fps.

Also, the display settings under the options menu is your friend. If you learn what everything there does and experiment with how the settings affect your particular machine, you'll find a nice, happy place lodged firmly between beauty and playability.


EDITED FOR LAMEASS TYPOS

Edited, Mon Dec 20 13:44:05 2004 by SweetZombieJesus
#13 Dec 20 2004 at 1:48 PM Rating: Good
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I found this to be rather useful..

Anyone having issues would probably love to read it.
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