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#1 Dec 16 2004 at 7:00 PM Rating: Good
I have heard people say that your chance to get a rare harvest such as cilver, coral, or copper increases once you get the tradeskill ised to harvest it over 100. Is this true, or just a rumor? I have most to about 70-90, so it would not be too incredibly hard to get them to 100. Thanks to anyone who knows for sure ^^
#2 Dec 17 2004 at 12:55 PM Rating: Decent
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Rumor I suspect. I have one character with 120+ in everything but fishing and she has never found a rare.

One of my other alt's picked up a Blackend Iron when they were about 33, and havent seen anything since and now sits at 95 for all their skills.
#3 Dec 17 2004 at 10:35 PM Rating: Decent
I'm a lvl 16 scholar, I harvest and then go into the society and make the components myself until I have the finished scroll. I have enjoyed it, but now I find the ink needed to make Adept 3 spells need rare coral or silver as a component. The price of these items are outrageous in the marketplace; a coral for 10+ gold. I'm not near having that kind of economy. If they don't change those rares to be more common harvests, it can be frustrating. Regardless, I'll continue to harvest, I'm 90+ now in foresting, gathering and mining, never a rare. /sigh
#4 Dec 17 2004 at 11:19 PM Rating: Decent
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My harvesting skills are well over 100 (don't remember exactly what they are right now, and um, can't get on!) and I have yet to find a rare. On the other hand a friend whose skills are around 20 found a silver the other day. Go figure!
#5 Dec 18 2004 at 12:05 AM Rating: Decent
My Crusader managed to Forest a piece of Alder in the Graveyard in Freeport. I sold it for 2 GP. now the suckers are going for 8 GP...DOH!! Oh well cant have everything i guess. BTW my foresting skill was at 35ish at the time.
#6 Dec 18 2004 at 4:58 AM Rating: Default
The wife's toon has skills around 50 or so when she found a bronze (tier 1) and a blackened iron (teir 2). Think the bronze was picked up in peat bog. :)
#7 Dec 18 2004 at 11:24 AM Rating: Decent
rare= to be come common items...so i guess it would not be rare if they do that :)
#8 Dec 18 2004 at 11:42 AM Rating: Decent
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I have heard people say that your chance to get a rare harvest such as cilver, coral, or copper increases once you get the tradeskill ised to harvest it over 100


I can say successful rate of harvesting rare items is totally unrelated to your harvesting skill level. its totally random. all my harvesting skills are 120+ but still haven't got my 2nd goal/silver/copper since I got my first coal when I was 50 on mining.
#9 Dec 18 2004 at 3:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Yup, totally random mate
#10 Dec 19 2004 at 7:44 AM Rating: Decent
aye random mc randomstyne is his name... so elusive so so so elusive... my brain needs Oxygen from farming over 3 hours of just wind swept rocks to only turn up 1 silver near the end of it all... Definitely elusive.... Did I mention it was random too?
#11 Dec 19 2004 at 10:22 AM Rating: Decent
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haha 3 hours and got a silver? you prolyl one ofthe luckiest people around - one day I harvested for 7 hours(waiting for rma nai and stonetusk) harvested 34 stacks of resources and didnt get a rare ;-)
#12 Dec 19 2004 at 2:53 PM Rating: Decent
I suspect it's rumor, though a plausible one. Kind of makes sense that, if you are more accomplished at a given task, you'd improve your chances of doing something extra-normal (like harvesting a rare) performing said task.

In fact, it's probably because it makes sense that SoE decided not to implement it.

I do wonder if buying the upgraded harvesting tools might have any effect down the road. No, it doesn't have any effect now but I doubt that they'd put them in the game if they didn't intend them to do something eventually. Maybe they'll reduce the chance that you'll fail to harvest anything at all from an attempt. Maybe they'll add 5% to the chance of harvesting a rare (I read that rares pop up roughly 1 in 2000 harvesting attempts so 5% better would make it, what, 1 in 1900 attempts? A virtual sure thing then!).
#13 Dec 20 2004 at 11:46 AM Rating: Decent
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I destroyed 2 alders to make inventory space a couple weeks ago. Ah, ignorance is bliss.
#14 Dec 20 2004 at 1:53 PM Rating: Good
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I collected one coral around50 or so skill. Then worked my skills up to 95 so I can do all harvesting in Steppes. First mining point pulled a Rough Jasper, yay..

Don't think tools have anything to do with anything.. I had them all and got nothing extraordinary or anything. Then again I didn't parse numbers before and after so maybe I wouldn't notcice a 1%(arbitrary number) increase in harvesting gain.

Anyhow, yay me on the Jasper and does anyone know a fair price for it??
#15 Dec 20 2004 at 3:31 PM Rating: Decent
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Rough Jasper is rare... oops >< as mentioned earlier, ignorance is bliss ^_^;
#16 Dec 20 2004 at 6:04 PM Rating: Decent
I havrvested a piece of coral when my first character was below level 10. Didn't know what I had and sold it to a vendor. Knocking my self on the head ever since.
#17 Dec 20 2004 at 7:07 PM Rating: Decent
My harvesting, gathering and mining have been under 90% and I just figured out how to fish yesterday that in one day I made it to 75%. I have found in the past week, 1 silver cluster, 1 rough coral, and just yesterday in Oakmyst I found 1 copper cluster. So it all about luck and chance that you find them. What I'd like to know is, what is a fair price for a copper cluster? Someone was trying to sell it for 8gp, does that sound right? Anyway, my advice is mine all the ores and sandwash rocks, they have those rare drops. Good luck!
Pyslk (cleric - steamfont)
#18 Dec 21 2004 at 11:42 AM Rating: Decent
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T1 Rares are a total waste of time. They make low level items that players quickly grow out of, in addition quest items are often better.

The T2 rares only seem to be good for Spells & Skills. When used to make equipment the gear tends to be sub-par. I have made a number of blackened iron items and couldnt unload them for a fraction of the cost.

The T3 Rares and up are very valuabe and the equipment they make tends to be decent.

Note T2 and T3 woodworking items are broken as far as I know, and only T1 rare furniture can be made.
#19 Dec 21 2004 at 1:47 PM Rating: Good
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Sad part is that while reading through this forum I know I have destroyed at least 2, if not 3 rares through blatant ignorance.

If fact, I think I destroyed one because I ran out of room and thought canine saliva would be worth more.

/sigh

#20 Dec 21 2004 at 2:30 PM Rating: Decent
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"I do wonder if buying the upgraded harvesting tools might have any effect down the road."

What are advanced harvesting tools and where do you get them?
#21 Dec 22 2004 at 1:46 PM Rating: Decent
I haven't had a job since EQ2 was released and have been playing it about 8-10 hrs a day on average. I have two toons that are almost level 20 tradeskillers so I have done a lot of gathering In those two months I have scored one piece of coral, that's it. This really has to be changed! Rare is rare, but theses items are way beyond rare. In our EQ free market society asking 8-10 gp is fair in my view....supply and demand.
#22 Dec 22 2004 at 9:50 PM Rating: Decent
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I think the same merchants that sell the Marketboard also sell things like A Mining Pick, A Foresting Axe, A Fishing Rod and the like. They sell for 2sp+ or so. Right now, they don't do anything (tested and verified here and elsewhere on eq2traders.com) but the question does beg to be asked, Why are they in the game if they don't do and aren't going to do anything?
#23 Oct 06 2005 at 8:01 PM Rating: Decent
I'v have 120 in minning and harvasting and forseting iv find rare alot mostly flowers nave steel or blacknd iron
#24 Oct 06 2005 at 9:19 PM Rating: Good
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The T2 rares only seem to be good for Spells & Skills. When used to make equipment the gear tends to be sub-par. I have made a number of blackened iron items and couldnt unload them for a fraction of the cost.

I'd have to disagree with you there... I have done a booming business with both tailoring and woodworking of T2 rares. Over time, I have sold more than a dozen imbued bone long & short bows and also more than a dozen each of the imbued rare T3 leather chest pieces and leggings. I have also made various other T2 bone items in the woodworking and carpentry disciplines and they never sit on the broker for long. And let me add that I never sell for cut prices... I always get top dollar for the things I make.
#25 Oct 07 2005 at 10:45 AM Rating: Good
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I think the same merchants that sell the Marketboard also sell things like A Mining Pick, A Foresting Axe, A Fishing Rod and the like. They sell for 2sp+ or so. Right now, they don't do anything (tested and verified here and elsewhere on eq2traders.com) but the question does beg to be asked, Why are they in the game if they don't do and aren't going to do anything?

The initial intent by the DEVs was that carrying one would increase your skill in that area. I believe thay were intended to provide a +1 to that skill. They must have disconnected the effect sometime before beta since they have never worked. Until recently, at least... I remember reading something in a recent update post that they were now functional...

In any case, space has always been a premium in my bags and in my bank. I don't think that even with a +1 to those skills I would ever choose to lug all of that junk around!

I seem to gather, forest, mine and fish just fine without them!!!

Edited, Fri Oct 7 12:00:05 2005 by OldBlueDragon
#26 Oct 08 2005 at 5:41 PM Rating: Good
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I'v have 120 in minning and harvasting and forseting iv find rare alot mostly flowers nave steel or blacknd iron


Yes, now they drop like crazy hehe. I have been gone for quite a while (left before around last Christmas, and just came back a couple days ago), and rare drops while harvesting must have increased by 5 fold. I raised 3 crafters through the tier I areas, harvesting up to 40 (which was the requirement to harvest in tier II areas for the first 3, and then 20 for the last character). I never got a single Tier I rare through all the harvesting on any of those characters. Now, I can actually bet on getting at least one tier I rare or more each time I go out harvesting. Quite the increase!
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