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#1 Dec 15 2004 at 8:28 AM Rating: Decent
How do you buy from the marketboard? DO you have to go to the inn where the seller is or what?
#2 Dec 15 2004 at 8:30 AM Rating: Decent
You have to go to the inn where the seller is. How did you do selling?
#3 Dec 15 2004 at 8:36 AM Rating: Decent
I made a little over 77 silver last night. I never would have thought overnight so many buyers would be on. Thanks for the tips, I'm not broke anymore :)
#4 Dec 15 2004 at 8:37 AM Rating: Decent
is it true that the wholesaler quests pay 12s each time?
#5 Dec 15 2004 at 8:48 AM Rating: Decent
YES!!!


I never leave the city without a wholessaler quest, and I never come back from hunting until it is filled. For that matter I base my comings and goings around those quests. I figure it adds 12 silver to whatever other loot I get while hunting.
#6 Dec 15 2004 at 8:52 AM Rating: Decent
The quest I have right now calls for me to get 15 things that are selling on the market for 10c each. So if I spend 1.5 silver I would get 12 for a profit of 10.5 silver. Man that is sweet.
#7 Dec 15 2004 at 9:29 AM Rating: Decent
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You can't buy them... they have the quest "ding" each time you find one from mining it.
#8 Dec 15 2004 at 9:36 AM Rating: Decent
Ah, that is good to know.
#9 Dec 15 2004 at 9:40 AM Rating: Decent
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unless they changed it, you can get quest credit when you buy the material you need. I've done it! Also you get credit if you get item from another player. I swapped one item another needed with one that I needed. Worked Beautifully. Only key was to swap em or buy em one at a time!
#10 Dec 15 2004 at 9:42 AM Rating: Decent
Well, it is cheap enough that I will try it and see what happens. I hope it works though, easy money.
#11 Dec 15 2004 at 9:46 AM Rating: Decent
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Hmm.. I should try too..

I had a bunch of malichite in my inv..and i didn't get any credit for them..so thats where my assumption came from.
#12 Dec 15 2004 at 9:54 AM Rating: Decent
I tried this last night- buying the resource for which I was tasked to gather from a Broker- and it does work. If the resource can be bought cheaply enough, yes it is very easy money and very quick money.

Which leads me to pose a question: is it an exploit?

I can't believe that SoE intended this to be in their game if you consider how otherwise difficult they've made earning coin.
#13 Dec 15 2004 at 9:56 AM Rating: Decent
Has anyone else noticed that you can get all of your stuff out of you inn room, relinquish ownership, then go back and get it for another 7 days without ever having to pay?
#14 Dec 15 2004 at 10:30 AM Rating: Decent
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If you're doing any crafting, once you get into the more specialized societies, they will also give you quests. These are more difficult as you have to make 10 specific items that are usually even as far as difficulty, but the pay-off was 36 silver. Making money the old fashioned way lol
#15 Dec 15 2004 at 2:35 PM Rating: Decent
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I tried this last night- buying the resource for which I was tasked to gather from a Broker- and it does work. If the resource can be bought cheaply enough, yes it is very easy money and very quick money.

Which leads me to pose a question: is it an exploit?

I can't believe that SoE intended this to be in their game if you consider how otherwise difficult they've made earning coin.


It could be an exploit, but I'm, personally, not so sure about it. The actual profit doesn't come from NPCs in the game. It comes from the price that PCs are setting for the harvestable items. You don't get the full silver reward since you have spend some coin to get the items. You also do not get any harvesting skillups.

The limit of the harvestable items is also restricted to how much is currently being sold. In one view, it's free money for someone who harvests the items, but it will also limit their ability to gain loot during adventuring as well as take up inventory space for any higher profit, slow selling items they may have. You may not be able to buy enough or any of the requested items sometimes. If this happens, you either have to harvest them yourself, or wait 1 hour (is the time correct?) to change the wholesaler task.

I see it as too time consuming and unpredictable to be an exploit, but then again, I don't have the patience or luck to sit in the society instance and do that. I like going out hunting and stumbling on a resource node as I'm kicking gnoll butt. Maybe that's why I'm so poor?
#16 Dec 15 2004 at 2:44 PM Rating: Decent
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Has anyone else noticed that you can get all of your stuff out of you inn room, relinquish ownership, then go back and get it for another 7 days without ever having to pay?


Yep, did this when I wanted to move from Starcrest Commune to Castleview Hamlet. Unfortunately, you have to own very few stuff to be able to do this regularly. I have four sets of weapons (1h sword and shield, 2 dual wield swords, 1 greatsword and a halberd) I carry with me at all times. I'm always well stocked on food and drink (1 full stack for each and some quest junk), spare stack of arrows, a few other items I can't part with and that leaves little space in my bags that I carry on me. My bank slots (I have bags/boxes for the majority of the slots, one open so I can shuffle bags in my inventory and bank) are filled with spare harvest items I use for crafting and some mastery items that I haven't gotten the quest for yet.

And I have quite a few house items that I have to take with me. :/

Seems my packrat tendencies have leaked into the gameworld. hehehe
#17 Dec 15 2004 at 5:41 PM Rating: Decent
It is not an exploit it is working as intended in regards to buying the items from brokers, other players etc. Now that everyone knows I don't see too many boneheads selling things for 2c each anymore. The items are taken out of circulation and someone harvested them so it is working properly. If you could get the quest done and not lose the items it would be an exploit. It has never been an exploit to exploit players lack of knowledge or common sense or Sony would probably be out of business by now.
#18 Dec 15 2004 at 6:26 PM Rating: Decent
Lexas wrote:
Only key was to swap em or buy em one at a time!


This may sound like a dumb question, but how do youbuy from a broker more than one at a time?

As far as being a exploit or not, we will know in roughly 24 hours. SOE will take this out quicker than they did the exploit with the seasoning packets... :)
#19 Dec 15 2004 at 7:02 PM Rating: Decent
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Adiemus wrote:
I tried this last night- buying the resource for which I was tasked to gather from a Broker- and it does work. If the resource can be bought cheaply enough, yes it is very easy money and very quick money.

Which leads me to pose a question: is it an exploit?

I can't believe that SoE intended this to be in their game if you consider how otherwise difficult they've made earning coin.


Not an exploit.
Playes only make a profit here if they are able to buy the stuff for very cheap prices. Sometimes the only supply available sells for more than 2sp, so thats not profitable. In fact you lose money.
In order to make some profit, you have to buy the item for less than 80cp.
12sp = 1200cp
1200cp/15 pieces = 80cp cost for each item to break even.

So considering that the purchase price is volatile, I doubt that this is considered an exploit.

However, if there is an NPC that sells an item for a fixed price and you can go back and sell him the same item for a higher amount, then that I believe is a bug that can be exploited.


Also, I would like to add that you have to receive the specific item AFTER you get the supply quest. It wont work if you stockpile all items beforehand and then get a quest. The items you already have will not count.

Edited, Wed Dec 15 19:06:29 2004 by Buffaholic
#20 Dec 15 2004 at 7:36 PM Rating: Decent
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This may sound like a dumb question, but how do youbuy from a broker more than one at a time?


There might be a "buy quantity" option. Then again, I do not know for sure. if not on the interface, try right-clicking the item you want.

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Also, I would like to add that you have to receive the specific item AFTER you get the supply quest. It wont work if you stockpile all items beforehand and then get a quest. The items you already have will not count.


Not entirely true. You do need the quest first to know what items you need, but if you have the required items on your person, all you need to do is transfer them to your bank or to someone, and get them back one at a time. You should get credit for it.

This would be the same as buying from the broker or PC merchant (just without losing coin).
#21 Dec 16 2004 at 12:15 PM Rating: Decent
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Also, I would like to add that you have to receive the specific item AFTER you get the supply quest. It wont work if you stockpile all items beforehand and then get a quest. The items you already have will not count.

Not entirely true. You do need the quest first to know what items you need, but if you have the required items on your person, all you need to do is transfer them to your bank or to someone, and get them back one at a time. You should get credit for it.

This would be the same as buying from the broker or PC merchant (just without losing coin).


Good one. Never thought about banking the supplies to remove it from my character and get it back.
#22 Dec 16 2004 at 12:23 PM Rating: Decent
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Can we have this thread removed? Now my newb characters aren't going to be able to make 50 silver in 10 minutes to get started. =( Seriously, how many jumps down 4 flights of stairs in a day can a character take!
#23 Dec 16 2004 at 12:29 PM Rating: Decent
Chill out, it would a little conceited of any of us to actually believe that we are the first to figure this out. I'm sure sony has already heard about this.
#24 Dec 16 2004 at 5:49 PM Rating: Decent
Sounds very well-reasoned replies as to whetehr or not it's an exploit.

I'm in agreement with those that feel it is not, if for no other reason than SoE >HAS< to know about it and, since they've done nothing to stop it, must not see it as being against their rules. Also, as the poster above pointed out, your profit margin can be minimal depending on what item you're asked to harvest and prices seem to be stabilizing on tier 1 and tier 2 materials at this point- no more buying 15 electrum clusters for 30cp and making an 11s 70cp profit. If the resource you need is 50cp, then you have to make the decision as to whether or not making 4.5sp is worth the time and effort to earn or whether you'd be better served out hunting/harvesting.
#25 Dec 16 2004 at 8:49 PM Rating: Decent
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Well, buying from brokers to complete wholesale tasks seem to have not been intentional by SOE...

Bullet point 3 under Gameplay: Clicky
"- Harvesting quests can no longer be completed by purchasing the items from a broker."

These updates are only on the Test server, but chances are good they will make it to the live servers.

Edited, Thu Dec 16 20:50:24 2004 by ArcosKojin
#26 Dec 17 2004 at 1:04 PM Rating: Decent
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ArcosKojin wrote:
Well, buying from brokers to complete wholesale tasks seem to have not been intentional by SOE...

Bullet point 3 under Gameplay: Clicky
"- Harvesting quests can no longer be completed by purchasing the items from a broker."

These updates are only on the Test server, but chances are good they will make it to the live servers.

Edited, Thu Dec 16 20:50:24 2004 by ArcosKojin


I wish they put more clarification on this change. Will it mean that an item you buy from a broker will NEVER be a valid quest item, so you have to harvest the supplies yourself?
What if you buy the stuff from the broker and bank the items? so many questions... /sigh.
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