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#1 Dec 15 2004 at 3:28 AM Rating: Decent
Come on I can't be the only person here to fall for a toon in an MMORPG. I spend a lot of time talking about the kind of people who drive me crazy in the game, but what is it that brings two characters together? I have noticed that there is a wide range of playing styles. As for me, I get personal about my character. I think it's fun to experience the emotional highs and lows that can occur throughout the life of a character.

In my experience, before getting into an in-character relationship it might be wise to find out where the other person draws their lines. Actually that won't make a damn bit of difference, but it is a nice idea.

Here is my take on all of this. Perhaps "God" is just an advanced world creator, maybe even works for a company like Sony (only a lot bigger and more...advanced). We walk around this earth in our toons, pretending to play games where we walk around other worlds as toons created by far more primitave world builders than the ones who made Earth (was the end of the dinosaurs just a big patch!?!?).

The bits of our personality come through our characters, like souls. So maybe... when you fall in love in a game or when you make a friend or enemy in a game... it's just as real and maybe these feelings should be treated with as much care as one might IRL.

In-character love, lust, envy, jealousy, hatred, friendship... what's is all about for you when you play?

Cel



#2 Dec 15 2004 at 3:36 AM Rating: Default
You think too much.
#3 Dec 15 2004 at 4:06 AM Rating: Default
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I would have thought it was kind of hard to form any relationship when you have the rest of your server on /ignore?
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#4 Dec 15 2004 at 4:16 AM Rating: Decent
Interesting way of looking at life. I appreciate you sharing Cel, I too get attached to my toons. I like to think that they are an extension of me, and reflect the same qualities that I hold and represent. In character relationships I would think would be closer to RL feelings than we probally know. Thanks for the thoughts. =)
#5 Dec 15 2004 at 5:13 AM Rating: Decent
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Whoa. I dont know about in game relationships....you know, you never know whats on the other end...

I have a funny habit of playing a female and a male toon in my MMos. I swear if some guy tries to date my female toon again (its happened before. I got proposed to, flattering but disturbing none the less) Im gonna cry. After the time the guy proposed to me, Ive made it a priority to tell everyone that Im a guy. My guy has never been asked out (maybe if I didnt make them into such bastards) and Im pretty sure Id be pretty iffy on it. Im just not into not knowing what Im dealing with. To each his own though, eh?

But I cant say its impossible to fall for a toon, after all your falling for the person behind the toon and not the toon itself. So, yeah Id say its highly possible. You know that its someone on the other end and not the toon you feel for Im sure, so your emotions are normal.


*If you see an Adalaide or Synexia its probably me. Those are the names I use for females. Dont hit on me 8) *

Edited, Wed Dec 15 05:56:25 2004 by WasteOfSpace
#6 Dec 15 2004 at 4:19 PM Rating: Good
I always try to play human or elf females. I once played a female dwarf in a D&D campaign, but that was for a one night side-campaign.

I thought it would be funny to play a female troll who is obsessed with elvan and human males, doing the betrayl quest not out of goodness but because of the selection of races in Qeynos being more to her liking. Could make for some funny banter.

Female Troll, "Gives us some of that pretty boy here. Don't mind me nose warts they tend to falls off when we gets excited."

Male High Elf. "/puke"

lmao

Cel




#7 Dec 15 2004 at 4:34 PM Rating: Good
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Ha Cel that'd be hilarious, seriously. My poor Iksar Rogue Kaitar has a liking for dark elf women but.... usually they aren't into the scale thing much. He's also a bit witty and even comical, but being from Freeport people just think he's a moron. Poor Kaitar, I almost did betrayal with him but he's only 20 percent from 18 now and I do have some friends there.

Setiss, Kaitar's older brother, is just straight out evil. That's all there is to it. The only thing he DOES care about is his stupid brother that keeps getting tricked into drinking too much and handing out all his gold to every dark elf girl that smiles at him, so he goes home broke and unable to pay the rent. Out Setiss goes to Nek forest to harvest and mine so his goof of a brother can afford new clothes /sigh.

Izavahss is a good guy all around, but he's touchy about things ...heh, you don't get treated too nice if you've got scales in Freeport ;) so he loses his temper now and then, but it's for a good cause. He needs to learn a bit of inner tranquility if he's going to be a monks though <_<.

I guess it's quite possible to get attatched to a toon or a character someone is playing, and I've definately seen it get confused with RL. I've rp'ed now for many years, and I personally keep what someone says In Character detatched from my own personal feelings as much as possible. Not because I disagree that people DO put a little into themselves in their characters, because I believe they do... but because I don't need the hassle ;) Still, out of my 3 Kaitar is my fav, he's so much fun to play, even if everyone typically laughs at him. An example last night in a lite RP party I had, mind you this was in the middle of battle spam fighting in Valmar.

Barbarian: Gah! I'm sick of fighting all these undead!! You all better be happy I have a fetish for the und....I mean...

Dark Elf: LIZARD! I no longer know you!

Kaitar: @_@ I DIDN'T SAY IT! HE DID!!!

Dark Elf: heh, right.

Barbarian: Shut your trap lizard! You're asking for it.

Kaitar: /sigh



Edited, Wed Dec 15 16:35:24 2004 by Ivven
#8 Dec 15 2004 at 4:38 PM Rating: Decent
I have to agree our toons tend to be an extension of ourselves no matter if it is a side we show IRL or a side we wish we could show. I have formed many friendships in game that continue even out of game now. I also find myself looking at toons every now and then going "mmmm now he looks good,to bad they dont have wranglers in game..."
#9 Dec 15 2004 at 5:03 PM Rating: Decent
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i rp some toons and am myself on others... i enjoy my toons interacting with toons others play, and it's even more fun when the "others" are people i know ;).

in eq1, my innocent and way naive druid had a crush on this barbarian rogue chick (who was the GL for the guild i had just applied for). he would forage her flowers, and call her "milady" and "the noble lady, <namehere>" and generally make her blush because she was all rough and tomboyish. she seemed to grow attached to him, though, as he really did respect her, and had her on a serious pedestal. she found out who was behind him 4 months after i joined, and only then because i told her when i presented him for a guild tag /grin. i asked her at that point if he should stop being infatuated with her, and she said he didnt have to. he never asked her for anything, just gave her winter lilies so she wouldnt get homesick while away from halas. most of the guild never figured it out :).

i also 2boxed a pair of wood elves, a rogue and a ranger, who were brothers. the ranger was generally sure of himself, and the older of the two, and the rogue was self-conscious and shy, and occasionally whiny. the ranger teased the rogue a bit, but defended him to anyone that made fun of his lil bro. that was probably some of the best fun i've had, especially when they'd argue, as i had to make sure i was using the right kb, and it was a challenge to keep up with myself *and* pull *and* make sure the rogue wasnt off picking his nose. several people "we" grouped with thought "we" were IRL siblings. people that knew me used to love it when i played them :).

more where those came from, but y'all are probably fallin asleep :D.

and, as far as meeting people ingame and makin em part of RL... i'm one of the most paranoid people around regarding personal info, and privacy, but i've made very solid, and close, friends with many people in my guild, and ... stuff ;).
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#10 Dec 15 2004 at 5:21 PM Rating: Default
Not to get down on you . . . but I really think the concept you came up with is pretty weird. It also parallels another belief in realworld -

That our universe is encasted in a larger universe (perhaps someone's chair leg) and they are encasted in another larger universe etc etc . . .

It is a real belief by many people by the way.

I can get drawn into a toon (female) and become interested in committing some time to her - because it is correct that a person's dream-personality comes through the toon. I mean; come on everyone - would we not LOVE to all be muscular and strong and intelligent and have the life of a toon?

Then reality sets in - I am not muscular (although I could be), my intelligence is decent (I do not believe in IQ tests) and I live in an apartment with screaming neighbors (now isn't that just like EQII?).

I have thought about actually participating in Cybering (I think you were poking that idea out there an maybe a bit nervous about saying so) For those that do not know what Cybering is . . . its having real-life sex with a toon (real-life person) whom is ingame. However; I find the idea of Cybering a bit too weird for me so I decline getting that involved.

I have become involved however; with getting rid of someone's boyfriend (ingame and sick ******* RL) just by playing my toon as a Paladin (with a sharp tongue an skill in using it to destroy). The person finally left the woman (ingame and RL) and I decided after that not to get into relations ingame. Blah - too much stress doing so. I flirt a lot though. That is fun.
#11 Dec 15 2004 at 5:29 PM Rating: Decent
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not sure who your comment about cybering was directed to... but if it was me...

most certainly not :).

my "... stuff" comment was because, having said i am a somewhat private person, i was getting into RL things that i wasnt wanting to share with the general public :).
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#12 Dec 16 2004 at 5:45 AM Rating: Default
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Me and my boyfriend met in a game 3 years ago,we lived far apart in different countries and evern different time zones, changed games seens then several times and still played together, our characters were married in each game we played, and now for 6 months already we live under same roof. He traveled across all Europe to be with me and our relation works fine. As a matter of fakt we argue only in a game and almost never about RL issue. So your never know..

P.S. Me is a female, and its his forum character name I used to post this reply

Edited, Thu Dec 16 05:47:17 2004 by Barsik
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#13 Dec 16 2004 at 7:51 AM Rating: Decent
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Cg Barsik/Barsik's gf. I wish you well. 8)


Well, there you go it definitly is possible. Makes me jealous in a way though, being single is really losing its appeal you know, and I just hate the club scene and I got 11 months to go for the bar scene (not that itll be any better). Ah well, all in good time, no?


*Now we just wait for some idiot nay-sayer to come here and say it cant happen/work. God I hate those type of people*
#14 Dec 16 2004 at 8:02 AM Rating: Decent
You, my friend, need to find a shrink.


(I will never admit to ever have thoughts like that!!)
#15 Dec 16 2004 at 8:13 AM Rating: Decent
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Wow, Bumbi your kinda narrowminded arent you? Remember theres a person on the other end not just a toon. If you have feelings for the toon, its actually for whoevers on the other end not the toon itself. The person types and causes the toon to act, there for its no more then a digital represenitive of oneself (may not look like them in RL though).


Its not like people are falling in love with a cartoon/anime charater. Its just like an interactive chat-room persay, your talking and interacting with a real-person, just not in their/your physical form.
#16 Dec 16 2004 at 9:32 AM Rating: Decent
lololol...

See what I wrote between the ( and the ).. And then try understanding sarcasm..
#17 Dec 16 2004 at 4:03 PM Rating: Decent
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I was surprised pretty early in the game by just this issue.

My first and highest level toon is a 20 Kerra Monk. I was really getting into the Monk/cat-like reflexes thing and really enjoying RP'ing him.

One day I zoned into Starcrest and standing there just looking at me was the most beautiful Kerra female I had ever seen!

I was dumbfounded, speechless, agog...

Then I snapped out of it! <lol> But it did take a second to snap out of it! My first and very real reaction was infatuation.

To honor my RP, though real, feeling, I sent her a tell and told her she was beautiful. I figured that someone spent a bit of time making her look just that way, so a compliment's a compliment, right?

Anyhoo... <embarrassed cough>
#18 Dec 16 2004 at 6:58 PM Rating: Decent
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I actually have been in a serious relationship with someone I met in DAoC. Funny thing is everything turned out great and we were together for almost 2 years. You are falling for the person behind the toon, not the toon in itself. It was a very interesting and fun relationship I had and I don't regret it.

But do it on your own will, heh. The truth is that you really DON'T know who is behind that character, I was lucky.
#19 Dec 17 2004 at 2:27 AM Rating: Default
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Huh, thats the worst sarcasm Ive ever seen. i read it and it didnt seem to sarcastic to me, but whatever. you say it was sarcastic then I guess Ill take your word for it, god knows you know what you ment better then anyone.
#20 Dec 17 2004 at 2:55 AM Rating: Decent
I've noticed alot of EQ players dont understand written sarcasm even if there is a smiley. Its not just my sarcasm/irony, infact this was the first time, but I have seen many flames cause people dont understand..
Im not ranting, just thinking.. When I played UT, UT2k3, UT2k4 there were NEVER this missunderstandings..
My conlusion is that it is a age thing.. Many EQ players are 30+ wereas most UT players are 20-25..
Any thoughts?

Stuff like this is what happens when EQ players fall for eachother..
I've seen so many of theese cases..
Have a fun read
#21 Dec 17 2004 at 3:10 AM Rating: Decent
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um... i got the sarcasm... and i'm a longterm eq player and i'm not gonna say which age group i'm in :x

the thing is... the eq demographic is somewhat more random than a lot of people believe it to be :).

and ... some persons are more attached to drama than others... which can help or hurt... but that *imho* is not directly related to age :).

the thing with eq2 is, that there are *so* many people from *so* many backgrounds, that misunderstandings occur :x.

i've been surprised at how many people have *not* been in an mmorpg, let alone eq, before.

we're all here to learn, though :).
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#22 Dec 17 2004 at 3:15 AM Rating: Decent
Yeah, your prolly right..
Anyways, read the link I gave.. Something that happened on my EQ1 server.. :p
#23 Dec 17 2004 at 3:22 AM Rating: Decent
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s'ok :).

and... i'll say this much...and it's more than i usually say bout myself ... my boi... my first evah... i met in eq... and am on the phone with atm... he's very sweet, and i'm lucky to have him... so there :).

and he's plannin on movin to my town in 2 months. whoa!

and kinda cool, if ya ask me :).
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EVE: Runym/Runyn/Runyl, 43M SP each
SWTOR: Pardoric, 22 Merc, on vaca
EQ: Runyariel Varyuvantel, 65 Enchanter, Tarew Marr, on vaca
LoTRO: Runyarian, 38 hunter, Vilya, on vaca
WoW: Runyarian, 70 hunter, Muradin, on sabbatical
EQ2: Runylala, 25 Troll Bard, Qey, Blackburrow, retired
WAR: Runyael, 30 DiscO Khaine, Ironfist,retired.
CoH: Hissing Chicken, 16 Scrapper, Pinnacle, retired
#24 Dec 17 2004 at 3:23 AM Rating: Decent
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gah! double post! :x.

but i'll use the space to say...

yar .. there will always be drama... whether RL or ingame :).

the question will always be ...

how will you handle it ;).

just stop, and think, and you'll be fine :).

Edited, Fri Dec 17 03:28:31 2004 by runyariel
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EVE: Runym/Runyn/Runyl, 43M SP each
SWTOR: Pardoric, 22 Merc, on vaca
EQ: Runyariel Varyuvantel, 65 Enchanter, Tarew Marr, on vaca
LoTRO: Runyarian, 38 hunter, Vilya, on vaca
WoW: Runyarian, 70 hunter, Muradin, on sabbatical
EQ2: Runylala, 25 Troll Bard, Qey, Blackburrow, retired
WAR: Runyael, 30 DiscO Khaine, Ironfist,retired.
CoH: Hissing Chicken, 16 Scrapper, Pinnacle, retired
#25 Dec 17 2004 at 4:14 AM Rating: Decent
Thinking isnt good.. Hurts my brain :/
#26 Dec 17 2004 at 11:56 AM Rating: Decent
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No, you are certainly not the only one person who has done this. I could never do it just because I would be too worried about who was actually on the other end. You do have to admit though, SOE makes some hot *** chicks. I remember in EQ1 when you would wipe in an LDoN and be all pissed off. Then on your way back to the zone you would be running next to a dark elf in ripped up red underware and it wasn't so bad anymore.
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