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More harvesting Misdemeanours and player idiocyFollow

#1 Dec 13 2004 at 5:25 AM Rating: Decent
Yes, that's right...another post about harvesting. But this isn't a rant.. I just had to share an experience I had two nights ago which had me rolling about laughing.

I was in the forest ruins trying to get hold of some tin. I spotted a node and ran to it, just as I started working on it...FOUR players appeared and they all started on the same node. That's right FOUR!! So when I finished my first harvest I said 'You guys crack me me up' and wandered off. A couple of minutes later I rounded a corner and spotted another node and jumped on it...and lo and behold, from behind me appeared the same four players, who promptly set to work on the node. I was beside myself with laughter. What planet where these guys on? There is stealing nodes and then there is being plain stupid and these four were a great big collective stupid. haha. I still wonder if they were working as a team or not....either way....good work fellas!

Anyone else met any players who qualify for the George W prize for idiocy (queue political flames defending dubya...lol)?

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Minky
#2 Dec 13 2004 at 7:24 AM Rating: Decent
Given that I recently spent a great deal of effort complaining about rude people I will now play devils advocate. : D I once noticed that due to lag, people don't always appear to be visible or "assuming the harvesting possition" while near a node. In fact, one can harvest a node from a fairly good distance, something my weak little bard has to do frequently so that she doesn't get eaten.

Sometimes, when I see other PCs, I will just run in the other direction before something rude happens. LOL I once had some gnome harass me because they didn't think my name was appropriate for a gnome. GAH!!!!!!!!!! GAH!!!!!!! GAH!!!!!!!

Fawget da bou dit.

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#3 Dec 13 2004 at 7:29 AM Rating: Decent
Harvesting I just don't bother .. so much hassle
#4 Dec 13 2004 at 7:33 AM Rating: Good
I couldn't care less about sharing nodes. it really doesnt bother me. Its just that there were four of them acting together on nodes which give three attempts which already had someone working on it.
So i have one attempt, leaving two...for them to share!! The funniest thing was, they carried on in that way.

Minky
#5 Dec 13 2004 at 7:35 AM Rating: Decent
Oh I get it now. That is odd. You think they would get more out of splitting up and covering more ground. Maybe they were roleplaying and pretending to teach the others how to gather? That's really pushing it, but you never know.
#6 Dec 13 2004 at 10:03 AM Rating: Decent
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i've seen that happen, too, minky :).

it was hilarious watching the little train of harvesters... and then hearing them grump at each other in /ooc :).

why they didnt just head in opposite directions is beyond me :x.

the fun part was harvesting all of the nodes that spawned right next to me as a result of their rabid harvesting, and then having them run through where i was and not find anything :).
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#7 Dec 13 2004 at 10:36 AM Rating: Decent
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Anyone else met any players who qualify for the George W prize for idiocy (queue political flames defending dubya...lol)?


Don't have to defend him...he won :)
Most people can't even remember the names of the losers he ran against, and of those that do remember...give them another two weeks. :)
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#8 Dec 13 2004 at 10:53 AM Rating: Decent
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What planet where these guys on? There is stealing nodes and then there is being plain stupid and these four were a great big collective stupid.


My guess? Planet IGE. Packs of their employees used such tactics in FFXI with Named Mobs and Mining in that game. Got pretty brutal actually.

Hope that's not what it was. Imagine what they could do with crafting... the inter-depenecies are killing most artisans in this game. A company could easily manage crafters in each artisan class and be totally self-reliant and dominate each field since they wouldn't have to worry about interim products from other classes.
#9 Dec 13 2004 at 10:56 AM Rating: Decent
yeesh.. scary thought subvert.. O_O
#10 Dec 13 2004 at 11:08 AM Rating: Good
Oh yeah...that dumb dubya. I just loved it when he said that he'd voted against something before he voted for it. Isn't that just the stupidest thing you've ever heard a major political figure say?

Err...wait. That wasn't him.

And do you believe that he got hold of some forged documents and ran a national televsion and print expose with these fakes and tried to destroy a sitting President with them?

Err...wait. He didn't do that either.

And we all know that only stupid people attend Yale for their undergraduate degree, get Harvard MBAs and fly multi-million dollar jet interceptors for the Air Guard.

Sorry...the idiots are on the Left: Al Franken, Michael Moore, Al Gore, Jimmy Carter, Alec Baldwin and the Hollywood Elites, Howard Dean, Jesse Jackson, Dan Rather and the like. All you'd need to have intellectual dominance over that pack is a second functioning brain cell.
#11 Dec 13 2004 at 11:20 AM Rating: Good
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Well, this went down hill fast...

/em pulls thread back on topic and scolds the original poster for putting something about polotics in an otherwise excellet post.

Political orientation aside, that is kinda wierd... The only thing with IGE, however, is that they'd have to actually level to even think about surviving in the teir three zones, and to even get to the tier 4 and 5 zones (they all require access quests.) Perhaps it was them, but I'm going to go with the optomistic view that it's just a bunch of n00b tards who don't know WTF they're doing.

Now no more political banter! Not the time nor the place.
#12 Dec 13 2004 at 11:25 AM Rating: Decent
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Ya, was just a thought..

Don't think they'd all have to level to collect resources, only a few of them would. They could have dedicated gatherers, merchants, refiners and finishers.

I know it's coming, I just don't know when. It seems that SOE has unknowingly given them multiple advantages over normal players. From the merchant system, to the crafting inter-depencies, it's more suited to something a company could succeed at.


Edited, Mon Dec 13 11:27:22 2004 by subvert
#13 Dec 13 2004 at 11:32 AM Rating: Default
oops. sorry about that...didnt actually expect people to bite on the dubya thing...guess I live and learn.

Anyhoo....I would guess it wasn't IGE as they would surely know better than to have four toons attack a single node. They would surely have a more well thought out plan...it's their business after all. I lean towards the 'idiots who have no clue' theory. Besides, it makes me chuckle imagining them thinking they are getting the better of anyone by doing that...hehe.

As for the comment about the interdependencies...now that is scary. I am crafting and find it hard to make much due to the interdependencies...in fact I have had to start a 'mule' up to create the burlap patterns I cant find anywhere or can only get from guildies every so often. To imagine a group of five or six sat next to each other carefully co-ordinating their crafting as a full time job scares the heck out of me :(

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#14 Dec 13 2004 at 11:35 AM Rating: Good
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IGE = impending doom on the horizon?

I like that description. I think I'll start using that. Smiley: tongue
#15 Dec 13 2004 at 11:35 AM Rating: Decent
*double post sorry!*

Minky

Edited, Mon Dec 13 11:35:53 2004 by Izzozz
#16 Dec 13 2004 at 11:57 AM Rating: Decent
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Anyhoo....I would guess it wasn't IGE as they would surely know better than to have four toons attack a single node. They would surely have a more well thought out plan...it's their business after all


LOL, you'd think that wouldn't you? From my past experiences with them, your description seems like typical behavior. IGE is now a chinese based company with most of it's employee's living in China working for a few dollars a month.

They get extremely cut-throat about making their money and tend to have a mob mentality about it. I guess their idea is that there is strength in numbers. The funny thing is that they all seem to be highly competitive, even amongst themselves. I've seen them train mobs on to other money sellers before. I guess the game takes on a whole new meaning when your family's dinner depends on it.

I dunno, probably wasn't and I'm just paranoid. It wouldn't be the first time :)

Edited, Mon Dec 13 12:12:08 2004 by subvert
#17 Dec 13 2004 at 5:59 PM Rating: Decent
>buries the political hatchet<

I didn't even think that it could be IGE folks but that's not the worst guess in the world. Sounds like their typical MO.

I heard from a friend of mine that moonlights on a different server that a rather large group of folks hve basically set up a system of what economists would call Vertical Integration* but with a distinctly Socialist twist. I'm not kidding about this.

They have a group of people whose sole job is Harvesting resources. Different groups are powerlevelled if necessary so that they can harvest Tier 2 and Tier 3 materials. Those Harvesters return to general Artisians, who take said raw materials and turn them into subcombine components. Runners then take these components over to the Craftsment, who combine them into whatever finished goods they can. More runners take the finished goods to Merchants, who stay in their houses 24/7 selling. All proceeds are then donated to the Guild leader, who distributes the monies among all the various workers.

Remember the earlier days of EQ1 when players with Teleport would roam South Karana and offer to change copper/silver/gold for platinum (at a slight surcharge) so that people could continue camping the Treants and not get weighed down by the tons of coin they dropped? Well, these guys are similar in that they've found a niche and filled it- and are getting rich off it. Whoda thunk it?

(*EDIT: Vertical Integration was a concept wherein a single person or company would control all facets of manufacturing, from harvesting the raw materials to making the finished goods.)

Edited, Tue Dec 14 09:49:42 2004 by Adiemus
#18 Dec 13 2004 at 6:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Wow!
For these peeps it isn't a game anymore, how F^@$&$%@ sad.
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#19 Dec 14 2004 at 4:03 AM Rating: Decent
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Hehe...I just love those kind of people. They run around like chicken with their heads cut off in large groups farming the same nodes while bickering amongst one another. Its a frickin' riot.


*Hehe...post 100! Woo-hoo!!*

Edited, Tue Dec 14 04:08:09 2004 by WasteOfSpace
#20 Dec 14 2004 at 4:07 AM Rating: Decent
Bush pwns!
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