Dec 10 Patch Notes - Crafters are Back in BusinessFollow

Well, looks like their definition of temporary was really just that; very very temporary. I'm impressed that they got it back up so fast. Let's hope they didn't mess up the whole system though.

- Adventurers entering the wolf and goblin caves in Permafrost will no longer die instantly.

HAHAHAHA! What a great bug! HAHAHAHA! Want to retrieve your shard? Let's see you try! Oh my... I'm still giggling. That was a funny start to my boring Friday.

Thanks for the post! Hehe.

I didn't initially think anything of it. I was a little concerned, but since I'm taking my time and crafting off priority items that sell quickly, it didn't bother me too much.

However, I'm glad to see SoE recoup so fast and take care of the issue they started to repair. It brings hope to us crafters that they are addressing known issues and making an effort. I do hope, in the near future, they start addressing more of the Artisan Book issues. I'm also glad to see the quick fix because I'll be doing a lot of Iron Work in the near future...as I've been in the Commonlands harvesting clusters religiously (here I come, Mr. Forge!)

Not at all. The fact that the SOE boards hit the roof with complaints and crafters mega pissed, is probably what got this fixed so fast.

Actually, you must not be reading the other threads.

We're all very happy that they finally decided to listen to us. It's just too bad it took thousands of threads on the SOE board from angry customers to make them do anything about it.

Like I've said in countless other threads on the subject, it wasn't really the NPC patch that was the problem. That was just the catalyst for the chaos that happened on the SOE boards yesterday. Everyone who'd been waiting for the dev's to fix or even acknowledge the critcal bugs where pushed to their limits. And it wasn't just a few people.

SOE finally understands that we're pissed about being neglected and now they feel the need to do something about it. It's too bad they had to let it melt-down before they did anything.



Edited, Fri Dec 10 12:56:13 2004 by subvert

What's the rule? If you bring up real life on an internet thread you've already lost?

Chill with the personal attacks. I didn't see Subvert start bashing you.

At any rate, I'm sure they shifted gears mid stride to respond to the general reaction. Have 1,000 people say they're going to quit your game, and you'd damn well better respond.

from a software development perspective, the items in this patch, imho, couldnt have been fixed that quickly, and were in the works already. they had to shut off the macromonkeys in order to keep there from being a hunnert meelion plat on the market by the time the patch was deployed. i'm a bit grateful for that bit myself.

soe's issue is, and has always been, communication.

if they'd simply let the users know what they are working on, on a consistent basis, a lot of the ranting wouldnt be necessary.

Agreed, the "Nerf Sony" post went on forever about how people should quit EQ cause of this. That would have been the shortest retirement time, cancl one day, come back in 2 days. Like I said, just cause they haven't had so good Public communication as far as saying they acknowldge an issue, I am sure they know about it.

Problem is, when you have people crying cause of a bug, why announce it if you will have it fixed in 3 days? Sometimes I think they don't say they know about a bug right away cause people will sit here crying to flame Sony, instead of jumping on line and playing.

Click me!

Actually, there's a thread going (see thread above) on eq2.eqtraders.com about what prices are changed, etc. They sure did something.

I don't doubt that the patches were in the works. Where I think they changed gears was their priority to said patches. I agree, communication has always been very bad with SOE.

And the Provisioners raking in the cash. I'm still amazed that someone would power level a provisioner to level 48... Food (meals more than drinks) don't seem to be a common thing for players at this time. Sure it helps and most are now using food, but without the actual stats, most people don't know the benefits of most foods.

How would anyone know that Rack of Lamb was a tier 5 food compared to Lamb Chops being a tier 2? There is nothing in the game to show the tier or benefit of higher level foods or which ones are higher level. Most players won't know that paying 50s for a tier 5 food is a great deal. They will just buy from the merchants so they don't get ripped off.

With all of these little things coming into play, I am sure that players knew about the prices problem before the game went live. I don't see any other reason to power level cooking over any other craft. They must have been aware that they would easily, and for profit, sell to merchants.

I have no problem if crafters can make 500p by selling their wares to players. The problem I see is when they can make 500p selling to merchants. 500p should only come from supply to the economy and demand from players. Not from selling the same item to a merchant that has indefinite amounts of copper. This does not help the economy one bit.

Ouch, you're only using summoned food/water? Perfect reason to label these things. Summoned food is horrible.

For instance, base power regen is 16. Summoned food adds 2. Store bought water adds 9. Tier 1 crafted drinks add 12. Tier 2 crafted drinks add 24.

Here's a pretty good break down of the different foods and their effects:

http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=a3&message.id=409


Edited, Fri Dec 10 14:34:09 2004 by subvert

I thought Apprentice II were supposed to be sold by merchants and craftsmen got Apprentice III? I guess SOE just changes anything they want on a whim.

Is the same problem now happening on Adept scrolls? Can craftsmen now make Adept I II and III depending on the quality of the combine? Has anyone tried to make an Adept III scroll recently and received an Adept II?

Well, they were testing some stuff on the test server with scrolls. On the test sever, pristine combines give App IV's and shaped and below give App II. It appears that some broken code that was probably intended for the test sever made it onto production.

I don't know about the adept stuff. I don't think anyone's willing to risk that kind of money to find out :)