Forum Settings
       
« Previous 1 2
Reply To Thread

8 char slots!?Follow

#1 Dec 09 2004 at 10:29 AM Rating: Good
43 posts
some people on the EQ2 fourm are reporting that the got a 4 extra chariter slots.

http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=Newbie&message.id=56078
#2 Dec 09 2004 at 10:58 AM Rating: Decent
**
259 posts
i've got 8 slots ... but i have 2 accounts :).

i'd love to have 16, though :).

i cant read that thread you linked from here, but i'll read it when i run home for lunch :).
____________________________
EQ: Runyaessz, 5 Monk, Phinigel
EVE: Runym/Runyn/Runyl, 43M SP each
SWTOR: Pardoric, 22 Merc, on vaca
EQ: Runyariel Varyuvantel, 65 Enchanter, Tarew Marr, on vaca
LoTRO: Runyarian, 38 hunter, Vilya, on vaca
WoW: Runyarian, 70 hunter, Muradin, on sabbatical
EQ2: Runylala, 25 Troll Bard, Qey, Blackburrow, retired
WAR: Runyael, 30 DiscO Khaine, Ironfist,retired.
CoH: Hissing Chicken, 16 Scrapper, Pinnacle, retired
#3 Dec 09 2004 at 11:14 AM Rating: Decent
***
1,252 posts
IF it is true, that they actually give/gave away 4 additional slots to peeps, where the free trial is about to expire as a way of "saving" them, then I gonna cancel my account.

either all or none in my opinion.
____________________________
Still a noob. :-P
Characters on Drinal, Povar, EMarr, Firiona Vie.
#4 Dec 09 2004 at 11:25 AM Rating: Decent
Looks like it's an extra 4 slots to people who buy an 'All-access' pass. I smell a big flame war on the way...
#5 Dec 09 2004 at 11:28 AM Rating: Decent
**
259 posts
whoa... will log on at lunch and see then and report back here... both of my accts are allaccess... and yar i think that's not really fair if true :x.
____________________________
EQ: Runyaessz, 5 Monk, Phinigel
EVE: Runym/Runyn/Runyl, 43M SP each
SWTOR: Pardoric, 22 Merc, on vaca
EQ: Runyariel Varyuvantel, 65 Enchanter, Tarew Marr, on vaca
LoTRO: Runyarian, 38 hunter, Vilya, on vaca
WoW: Runyarian, 70 hunter, Muradin, on sabbatical
EQ2: Runylala, 25 Troll Bard, Qey, Blackburrow, retired
WAR: Runyael, 30 DiscO Khaine, Ironfist,retired.
CoH: Hissing Chicken, 16 Scrapper, Pinnacle, retired
#6 Dec 09 2004 at 11:32 AM Rating: Good
Avatar
***
1,368 posts
I don't have an all access subscription and I can confirm I only have 4 slots.

Smiley: mad

____________________________

#7 Dec 09 2004 at 11:33 AM Rating: Good
Why on earth should I have to pay for an All Access pass if I don't play EQ, Planetside, or SWG? That's ridiculous to give a bonus to players of one game for signing up for all of them.
#8 Dec 09 2004 at 11:33 AM Rating: Decent
Just like the original poster on the EQ2 forum, I received
the same email from Sony about my 30 days endings and needing
to subscribe or resubscribe (can't remember the exact wording).
I thought when my sister had set-up the accounts, she had taken
care of everything but I guess not.

So I clicked on the link in the email. I could subscribe
just to EQ2 or subscribe to Station Access. Playing both EQL
and EQ2, I decided to go with Access (according to my math
Access was cheaper). After picking Access it gave 2 options
a)pay now and get 4 extra character slots b) pay later, after
current subscription expires. I chose to pay now.

After thinking about it a while and wondering if it was an email scam, I went to Station page and brought up my account and saw where Sony charged me 21.99 today for Access (they also charged me about $36 for EQL but I digress).

Since I am at work right now I can't log on to see if I can create 4 more characters but I will tonight. But so far based
on my experience this seems to be legit.
#9 Dec 09 2004 at 11:44 AM Rating: Decent
***
3,293 posts
I have all access pass and only have 4 char slots.
#10 Dec 09 2004 at 11:47 AM Rating: Decent
Reading the posts it sounds like you have to cancel it then renew it to get the extra 4 slot offer. LMAO
#11 Dec 09 2004 at 11:56 AM Rating: Good
Gurue
*****
16,299 posts
If they're going to do this, they should do it for everyone who pays to play past the free 30 days. As a "thank you for staying with us" gift. Not just for All-Access accounts.
#12 Dec 09 2004 at 12:23 PM Rating: Decent
**
259 posts
aye... the aol approach wont work with this player base... bribing people to stay will make others leave :x. an ingame premium like boots for preorders is one thing... but this is a bit more tense :x.
____________________________
EQ: Runyaessz, 5 Monk, Phinigel
EVE: Runym/Runyn/Runyl, 43M SP each
SWTOR: Pardoric, 22 Merc, on vaca
EQ: Runyariel Varyuvantel, 65 Enchanter, Tarew Marr, on vaca
LoTRO: Runyarian, 38 hunter, Vilya, on vaca
WoW: Runyarian, 70 hunter, Muradin, on sabbatical
EQ2: Runylala, 25 Troll Bard, Qey, Blackburrow, retired
WAR: Runyael, 30 DiscO Khaine, Ironfist,retired.
CoH: Hissing Chicken, 16 Scrapper, Pinnacle, retired
#13 Dec 09 2004 at 1:19 PM Rating: Decent
***
3,293 posts
Actually this is no differant then comcast charging more for HBO and other channels, however they should have told their customers they were going to do this. I do have all access pass ( will have to check it after work for more char slots) I only play one char, in fact this is the only mmorpg that I've played and been content with just one. Wish I could donate my extra char slots for those who need it. Don't mean to hi-jack the thread but wasn't there a way to change servers? I still have a char on mistmoore.
#14 Dec 09 2004 at 2:09 PM Rating: Decent
**
259 posts
right then. it's true.

logged on both accts... 4 slots. all access passes already in place.

canceled both subscriptions. checked dates. acct1 expires today, acct2, the 16th.

tried to resubscribe via website. nothing. canceled again.

resubscribed within the game's interface launchpad whosis. chose all access. put in info... *then* get a thingy that says "if you wanna give up your remaining free time and pay now you get 4 more slots" or "pay when your time is up" ... i chose pay now, and have the extra slots on both.

looks like this is only true on accounts with *no* active subscription, *and* free time left. if both things are true, use the interface *in* the launchpad to access your account *before* free time is up and you get em.

if i hadnt found out about this before time was up, i'd be even more miffed about this aol-ism. right now i'm just cranky on behalf of friends that cant afford the extra money.

i think it's silly/mean/unfair, but ... don't hate me for leavin em that way after the test :x. my friends know i'ma toonaholic :x.

Edited, Thu Dec 9 14:12:17 2004 by runyariel
____________________________
EQ: Runyaessz, 5 Monk, Phinigel
EVE: Runym/Runyn/Runyl, 43M SP each
SWTOR: Pardoric, 22 Merc, on vaca
EQ: Runyariel Varyuvantel, 65 Enchanter, Tarew Marr, on vaca
LoTRO: Runyarian, 38 hunter, Vilya, on vaca
WoW: Runyarian, 70 hunter, Muradin, on sabbatical
EQ2: Runylala, 25 Troll Bard, Qey, Blackburrow, retired
WAR: Runyael, 30 DiscO Khaine, Ironfist,retired.
CoH: Hissing Chicken, 16 Scrapper, Pinnacle, retired
#15 Dec 09 2004 at 3:58 PM Rating: Decent
*
216 posts
Personaly, I think its a very sad joke and one of the reasons I do not plan to stay with the game past my sixth month time.

Every other game out there allows you to play several characters, 6+. Even those that do only allow you to have a fixed number of characters on a server, let you have extra characters on ANOTHER server.

This is just a very sad move to make more money. Simple as that.

I full expect them to start charging for patches next, and setting up an hourly fee to play the game. I guess 50$ up front is nothing and the monthly fee, is just for the right to put the box up on your desk and look at it.
#16 Dec 09 2004 at 5:16 PM Rating: Excellent
Spankatorium Administratix
*****
1oooo posts
I just checked, I have 8
____________________________

#17 Dec 09 2004 at 5:37 PM Rating: Decent
***
1,463 posts
If this is real, if everyone does not get 8 slots, I'm gonna be peeeessed.

Why the clunky bazaar system of player selling? To encourage us to buy extra accounts for merchant muling.

Now this.

People - time for "we the players" to get our act together and storm the Bastille. I have no patience for any Sony-sycophant who says "well just like HBO has the right to blah blah blah". Funk that. You are either a player or a tool of Sony. I'm a player. You say I want to bite the hand that feeds me? No, I want to bite the arm that STARVES and neglects and angers me - I want to bite it and rip it right out of its socket!

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR-CHOMP!
#18 Dec 09 2004 at 5:41 PM Rating: Default
While I do think it's pretty lame that people get an added bonus for spending more on other games.... I don't really see what there is to complain about.

4 character slots. If I recall, FF11 (at least in the beginning, I only played it maybe 2 months tops so they may have changed it) charged you PER MONTH PER CHARACTER... I mean what the hell is that?

4 slots is plenty. You can create one of each archtype. When people have 8 or more slots, all they are doing is saving some of their favorite roleplaying names so others can't have them and CoolName_02 is sitting there at level 1 for years. Pretty lame.

If you have enough time to play 4 different characters consistantly, you play the game too much. Period.

Its not like they're handing out some game breaking weapon, armor or spell...

Sep
#19 Dec 09 2004 at 5:56 PM Rating: Decent
**
259 posts
Sepulveda wrote:
If you have enough time to play 4 different characters consistantly, you play the game too much.

this is, of course, your opinion, which you have a right to express.

however, i do beg to differ. i have a lot of alts, always have, no matter which game i play.

i play these games instead of watching sports, or television, or other things that i dont enjoy doing.

i'm not a powergamer, and i dont have any toons over level 15 at the moment. i play because i enjoy the game. i have alts because my friends may need a healer instead of a mage, and i'm told i play all classes well. or, maybe i just want to wander around being all sneaky and backstab goblins one day, and nuke them into the ground the next.

i hold a fulltime position as a web systems engineer, and everyone at work knows what i do with my free time. some of them play fps's, some watch satellite tv all day, some spend their lives garage-sale-ing. it's nbd to me any way i look at it, as it's their free time to spend. my judging their use of it is silly, and vice versa.

to each his/her own. if i enjoy the game enough to devote my free time to it, that's my prerogative. if you dont, that's your prerogative as well, and i wont judge you for spending your time as you see fit... it's not my place to :).
____________________________
EQ: Runyaessz, 5 Monk, Phinigel
EVE: Runym/Runyn/Runyl, 43M SP each
SWTOR: Pardoric, 22 Merc, on vaca
EQ: Runyariel Varyuvantel, 65 Enchanter, Tarew Marr, on vaca
LoTRO: Runyarian, 38 hunter, Vilya, on vaca
WoW: Runyarian, 70 hunter, Muradin, on sabbatical
EQ2: Runylala, 25 Troll Bard, Qey, Blackburrow, retired
WAR: Runyael, 30 DiscO Khaine, Ironfist,retired.
CoH: Hissing Chicken, 16 Scrapper, Pinnacle, retired
#20 Dec 09 2004 at 6:06 PM Rating: Decent
Yer totally right Run... MMORPGs are the equivilent to others TV, sports, etc hobbies. I'm not saying I don't disagree with the post. It is quite lame that people get extra character slots for having extra cash to throw around. However... from my experience, people don't tend to run more than 4 characters. I don't play a ton, but I play quite a bit. EQ1 gave you... what? 300 character slots, 8 per server and like 40 or 50 servers? I just think it's pretty stupid, when a new person comes to the game, maybe a few months after its release... wants a name, and every single decent name is taken, because people have reserved them all but never use them. 8 character slots isn't overdoing it. But if they raised the number you could have to 8, people would be complaining about not having 20. I probably had 30 characters or so across all the servers in EQ1... but of course that was a collection of 5 years worth of playing. I find it hard to stomach that people are already complaining about not having more than 4 character slots when the game has been out a month.

Sep
#21 Dec 09 2004 at 6:20 PM Rating: Decent
Quote:
if i hadnt found out about this before time was up, i'd be even more miffed about this aol-ism. right now i'm just cranky on behalf of friends that cant afford the extra money.


I think you can still upgrade if you are on the 21$ plan either way, it wasent just a benefit to resubsribers. It's a standard option now.

Now getting to the point, 4 characters, i was happy, but wished I had my 8, and honestly on eq1 I had 8+ easy, not all were 70 uber toons, but I have a bad habbit of quiting 1 toon to try others.

In any case, you guys got what you paid for 4 toons, 15 bucks. Its never been uncommon for sony to offer etra perks to those who shell out more money. Legends server... hmmm. Ya. Let's hope they drop 8 toons to the rest of us without having to fork over our first born, but come on people. It's not the end of the world. DAOC had 4 toons, later gave you 8. FFXI gives you 1 and charges you for additional up to like 32 toons. wtf. My good friend swears this is the best model. Maybe so. Anyhow, you got what you were promised , if you want more, pay up, if not , well... let it go. Play your game and be happy. =) Lets get upset about important issues like character balance and incompleteness of things that impair our gameplay. Not oo I cant have 500 ratonga brawlers on 1 account.
#22 Dec 09 2004 at 6:30 PM Rating: Excellent
Avatar
***
1,368 posts
EQ has always been a 'pay to get more' game since SOE took control. While Verant retained it, the released content expansions and kept game content, mechanics, tradeskills, quests, game windows, and character slots available for all. No sooner did SoE release their first expansion and *boom* you had your first segregation benween those that paid and had, and those that didn't / couldn't. That was back with the very first release of the Luclin and the bazaar. If you didn't buy in, you were locked out of the only available (realistically) place to buy and sell gear. This continued with even ceratin game windows (raid window) being reserved for those that paid and caused much grief initially in guilds where some people could join the raid and others couldn't because of personal choices made about expansion purchases. Later they gave people that paid bigger banks and the availability of no-drop spells that made you basically gimped if you didn't buy in and scribe them.

Now, 1 month into EQ2, we have the first taste of the marketing mentality of Sony. You may not be interested in playing planetside and tanarus, but if you pay a little more for the all access, you get more character slots. Soon the bank space upgrade will be available for only $14.99 and special 24 slot bank boxes will be the incentive to buy the "collector's edition" of the next expansion. That will be the expansion that 'unlocks' frogloks, if you are willing to pay. Pre-order an upgrade to your chat window for only $4.99 that will provide you with better sorting functionality! There is never an end to it.

The original comic (possible pop-ups on that link) that was released when the 'premium' EQ1 Legends server went live really says it all about Sony - enter your credit card number and GM's will deliver your milk and muffins right to your camp in Befallen.

Sorry for the rant, but I need a rate-down anyway today. I'm pretty disappointed with how Sony has handled the game's release and it doesn't look to be getting any better anytime soon.
____________________________

#23 Dec 09 2004 at 6:38 PM Rating: Decent
*
61 posts
The thing about people comparing FFXI's method of character creation and paying per characer is that it is completely irrelevent to EQ2 because in FFXI you can try out every single class and all the different combinations available on ONE character, the only thing you aren't able to do it play every race, which doesn't make that huge of a difference in that game anyway, and there are only 4 races. Each character also was only $1. What Sony is doing right now is charging $7 for 4 extra slots.

In EQ2 you can only choose ONE path PER character and there is no going back one you decide which class you want to be. There are so many more combinations with the numereous races and classes that if you want to get a taste of everything it is impossible to do with only 4 characters.

To many people trying out different classes and races is how they enjoy the game, even if they do not max out all their charcters they are able to learn and experience all the types of gameplay available to them. In limiting the character slots to 4 they are severly limiting the players that wish to enjoy the game in that manner. Just because this isn't how you may choose to enjoy a game doesn't mean it's wrong. If they were to make it so that everyone can have 8 those people that wish to have more characters would be happy, and those that choose not to use all their slots would be completely unaffected.
#24 Dec 09 2004 at 6:50 PM Rating: Decent
**
259 posts
Sepulveda wrote:
I just think it's pretty stupid, when a new person comes to the game, maybe a few months after its release... wants a name, and every single decent name is taken, because people have reserved them all but never use them.

ahh... so your point is regarding persons that dont actually play the toons. in that case, i agree :).

i had 13 *active* alts in eq. active being defined as *playing* the toon at least 2 hours a month. the 14th slot held guild bank items, the 15th was my bazaar bot, since my main had no bank space due to the ND quest items. boy am i glad that bit's different in eq2 :). some of the alts i only played when no one needed me for something else :).

and yes, the complaining is about 3 years ahead of schedule...

oh and moorgard posted a news item on this finally... *all* all access accts get the extra slots on next billing, regardless of current status, and if all access is canceled on an account, the four most recently used toons will be retained.

the part that *really* irritated me was that i thought that this was a bribe to get people to commit to the game, when, i thought, i deserved it too, since i committed on release. i had subscribed to all access on both accounts, since i still help people out in eq1, and i thought i was being penalized for making up my mind ahead of time :x.

i'm still irritated that this wasnt stated up front on release, as i think that there would have been less of a backlash. i'm also moderately irritated that those that only want to play eq2 arent given an option to pay, say, $2.99 or something to upgrade without having to do the full subscription upgrade. they'd have done better to set all of this up from the beginning. the idea that this is a "new" feature that they hadnt considered until after release is kind of hard to believe.

i think the serverwide toon limit is definitely a good idea, for the reasons previously stated by others here (300 is more than even *i* could play), as now i'll have space to create a toon on another server, but i do wish it were 8 for everyone, and i do wish that it were not a premium feature.
____________________________
EQ: Runyaessz, 5 Monk, Phinigel
EVE: Runym/Runyn/Runyl, 43M SP each
SWTOR: Pardoric, 22 Merc, on vaca
EQ: Runyariel Varyuvantel, 65 Enchanter, Tarew Marr, on vaca
LoTRO: Runyarian, 38 hunter, Vilya, on vaca
WoW: Runyarian, 70 hunter, Muradin, on sabbatical
EQ2: Runylala, 25 Troll Bard, Qey, Blackburrow, retired
WAR: Runyael, 30 DiscO Khaine, Ironfist,retired.
CoH: Hissing Chicken, 16 Scrapper, Pinnacle, retired
#25 Dec 09 2004 at 6:56 PM Rating: Decent
***
1,463 posts
I'm afraid some of you aren't "geting it".

Sure, it's insane for mature people to get crazed about a stupid game, right? And a company has a right to extend perks to those who pay more. Duh. And they have the right to nerf and nerf heavily, as they see fit - it's their world. They tell us that every fuggin time we log in. "YOU ARE IN OUR WORLD NOW." And folks, they mean it. But sure, to complain about it is crazy - only a useless moron without a life would do so - if I'm reading other posts correctly.

What you all are forgetting is that we have a right, and if we want to be treated with any respect, a duty to fight back when we feel we're being tooled around by the company. Let me repeat this - if we don't threaten them - if we don't let ourselves get angry - if instead we all tell each other "gee it's just a game - hey they own it - they can do what they want" - then we're all going to get exactly what we deserve.

The only thing that keeps a big company like Sony on the "right track" (i.e. providing us the best game possible) is fear of complaint and fear of losing business. If we don't get together and present a more unified front in term of demanding more respect and a better game, then what can we expect? Like I've said in other posts, I don't expect any one posting to have an effect. But over time good ideas can trickle up - and I sincerely hope my fellow players will consider this and give it a shot.

The other side of this coin is that, imo, Sony needs no defenders among us. I cringe each time I see one of you defending them. In my opinion our debate should be "okay, you're mad at Sony, but is what you're saying really going to make the game better? Hey, what about this...." And never "Sony is doing a pretty good job, okay, so stfu" - they aren't doing a good enough job. THey never have and never will. We need to stay on their cases, always.

Sony is the casino - they are the dealer - and we are the blackjack players. If we protest effectively, we actually can get the casino to make the rules more in our favor - to give us a better experience. Yes, the casino ultimately takes our money - but if we have better odds we have more fun. Can't you see this?

If hundreds of players simultaneously did /feedback with the exact same comment, we'd get noticed. If thousands did it....

I suggest: /feedback Give us all eight slots within two weeks, or I will not renew.

Please stop mindlessly defending Sony. They aren't saints. They don't see us as clients - they see us as nuissances. They have always had the tone that we are the almighty, creative geniuses who crafted this wonderful world - you should feel lucky we let you in. Please don't feed that monster. Fight it! And yeah, to those of you who say "well if you don't like it, just quit" - yeah - I may have to. It's a pity - cuz they got so much right this time - to have to quit because of their beancounter mentality (8 slots only for those who pay - a clunky bazaar system designed to coerce you into buying an extra account so you can have your merchant character up while you play w/ your main) - dammit. This is the time for us to band together and fight this crap. Not each other!
#26 Dec 09 2004 at 7:03 PM Rating: Default
You know what would be real funny?

If people gave up their free time for the 4 extra slots and then afterwards they just gave it out to everyone else for free a month from now:)
« Previous 1 2
Reply To Thread

Colors Smileys Quote OriginalQuote Checked Help

 

Recent Visitors: 82 All times are in CST
Anonymous Guests (82)