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#1 Dec 09 2004 at 7:03 AM Rating: Good
I thought I would make a video to show people the basics involved in crafting. I made a Pristine Elm Strong Box which is nice because thats 8 slots in my bank. This video shows you whats involved in making the box. It takes you step by step through the entire process.

I was only a level 7 Artisan when I made it. I harvested the materials I needed in Peat Bog. The other materials can be bought from merchants. If you like this video let me know and I will make more in the future. Enjoy!

Edited, Fri Dec 10 12:00:19 2004 by ffreak
#2 Dec 09 2004 at 7:12 AM Rating: Good
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Question!

I was making regular elm strong boxes last night but was only getting the 6 slot boxes and didn't even have the two extra crafting bars (i had two bars to get through instead of four).

Not sure if I was using pristine subcomponents? Could this be the reason why I was making the 6 slot boxes instead of 8?

Woodworking is a heck of a lot easier then baking. Baking just absolutely stinks. I can easily fail on greens despite using spells with little to zero skillups.
#3 Dec 09 2004 at 7:55 AM Rating: Decent
Thats sweet! I'm on Neriak server too, how much are you charging for one of those bad boys? I'd like to meet up with you sometime and buy at least one of them.
#4 Dec 09 2004 at 8:03 AM Rating: Decent
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ffreak: very very good movie. informative and funny. rate up and gratz :)

bubspeed, yes, you need pristine components (at least for the primary component), else you won't have the 4 bars.
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#5 Dec 09 2004 at 8:23 AM Rating: Decent
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Question!

I was making regular elm strong boxes last night but was only getting the 6 slot boxes and didn't even have the two extra crafting bars (i had two bars to get through instead of four).

Not sure if I was using pristine subcomponents? Could this be the reason why I was making the 6 slot boxes instead of 8?

Woodworking is a heck of a lot easier then baking. Baking just absolutely stinks. I can easily fail on greens despite using spells with little to zero skillups.
To even have a chance at making Pristine Elm Strong Boxes, you have to craft them using Pristine Planed Elm Lumber, Pristine Tin Studs, and Pristine Tin Sheets. Thats why I put in the video to make sure you had the highest quality stuff before moving forward. Also it is important to learn what icons in your knowledge for crafting affect what crafts. If you constantly hit them (so far 3 icons per craft) you have a better chance of high quality crafts. Just watch your power meter.
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Thats sweet! I'm on Neriak server too, how much are you charging for one of those bad boys? I'd like to meet up with you sometime and buy at least one of them.
I am currently just selling the 7 slot Strong Elm Boxes I make for 15s a peice. If I can make more 8 slot boxes I might start selling them.Smiley: grin
#6 Dec 09 2004 at 8:26 AM Rating: Decent
I will buy the seven slotted ones from you then. How many slots in your bank does the box take up, just one? And can bags with items inside be placed in the box?
#7 Dec 09 2004 at 8:33 AM Rating: Decent
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I will buy the seven slotted ones from you then. How many slots in your bank does the box take up, just one? And can bags with items inside be placed in the box?
You have a total of 12 slots in your bank (including the 4 shared slots at the bottom). You can't place bags in them unfortunatly. SOE made it this way, because if you could put bags in boxes you could have unlimited space. Send me a /tell tonight and we can work something out. Also if you need help I can try and show you the ropes so you can make them too.
#8 Dec 09 2004 at 8:38 AM Rating: Decent
Cool, your name is Thanos right? Are you in Freeport?
#9 Dec 09 2004 at 8:45 AM Rating: Default
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Cool, your name is Thanos right? Are you in Freeport?
Yes and no I'm in Qeynos.
#10 Dec 09 2004 at 9:02 AM Rating: Good
Actually, FFreak, only the primary component needs to be Pristine, I thought. It and your skill level are the only things that will have an effect on item quality. At least, that's what I read in the crafting guides on the official forums.

Now of course, I'd love to be wrong, so then I could slowly replace the 6-7 slot boxes I ended up with the other night with nice, shiny 8 slot boxes.

Also, I notice that you use your buffs almost constantly during the crafting process. Is this how you manage to keep your durability so high? I found that while I was able to craft a certain number of pristine products in all categories (save that of the actual boxes for some reason), I wasn't always very successful at it. Regardless, nice video, and thanks. :)

Edited, Thu Dec 9 09:08:05 2004 by Miravelle
#11 Dec 09 2004 at 9:04 AM Rating: Default
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Actually, FFreak, only the primary component needs to be Pristine, I thought. It and your skill level are the only things that will have an effect on item quality.

At least, that's what I read in the crafting guides on the official forums.

Now of course, I'd love to be wrong, so then I could slowly replace the 6-7 slot boxes I ended up with the other night with nice, shiny 8 slot boxes.
Your call. I can tell you this much though, I never got 8 slot boxes until I started using all pristine ingredients. Just how I did it. Take this video for what you will.
#12 Dec 09 2004 at 9:09 AM Rating: Good
See my edit above. :)

I'm going to try my hand at it with all pristines and see if I'm able to maintain quality a bit better.
#13 Dec 09 2004 at 9:30 AM Rating: Decent
Fantastic work! I shall get to crafting a load of pristine boxes tonight. Thanks for that :)

Minky
#14 Dec 09 2004 at 9:38 AM Rating: Default
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Fantastic work! I shall get to crafting a load of pristine boxes tonight. Thanks for that :)

Minky
LOL, good luck. Just so I don't mislead you guys out of say the 8 elm boxes I made last night only 2 were Pristine. The other 6 were only 7 slotted boxes. These were all made using the same materials and methods you saw in the video. I still don't understand the mechanics of crafting completly, but I am starting to know enough to be dangerous.

More power to you though if you get them made differently. Post your methods if you find a different way to do it. I was just lucky enough to get it on film when I did it to show you it can be done even if you aren't teh uber crafter!!1!11!

Happy crafting!Smiley: grin
#15 Dec 09 2004 at 9:43 AM Rating: Good
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Thanks for the help! I would have downloaded the movie but I am at work and it would take forever.
#16 Dec 09 2004 at 9:46 AM Rating: Decent
I have a question,

When you make a prestine box, it has more slots in it.

What happens for scrolls? If I am crafting a Apprentience III Courage spell for example, what do you get for making it to prestine? It will be an upgrade scroll no mater how well you make it. Does maing it to Prestine make it a Adept I or something?
#17 Dec 09 2004 at 9:50 AM Rating: Decent
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I have a question,

When you make a prestine box, it has more slots in it.

What happens for scrolls? If I am crafting a Apprentience III Courage spell for example, what do you get for making it to prestine? It will be an upgrade scroll no mater how well you make it. Does maing it to Prestine make it a Adept I or something?
You know I was going to ask this myself. There are 4 levels of making Apprentice III scrolls, but they don't have different names. This means all levels will just read Aprentice III(i.e. no crude, shaped, normal, or pristine products). I am worried because I made a Tier 2 Taunt scroll and used it.

I went back and made a Tier 3 Taunt scroll and now I can't use it because I already know it. This worries me. If someone can shed some light on this I would appreciate it. Thanks!
#18 Dec 09 2004 at 10:22 AM Rating: Good
From all of my reading on the various tradeskill forums out there, I've found that quality of the scroll has absolutely no effect on the quality of the ability. And there are no accounts of difference in effectiveness when using a Crude App III vs. a Pristine App III.

If it did have any effect at all, you'd have to be able to re-scribe a certain level of a spell if you ever found a better version.
#19 Dec 09 2004 at 10:23 AM Rating: Decent
It appears the Apprentice spells work no matter their level. I did the same thing. Made "crude" level ones and used them on myself with no problem. Then I went back to make better ones and couldn't use them so I sold them.

And yes, your first item has to be pristine. It doesn't matter on the rest. Your skill is what matters if you actually get to *maintain* your pristine, and how you work the tradeskill buttons/spells. I have much better luck at the craftsman recipes, since I'm a craftsman, then say jewelry.
#20 Dec 09 2004 at 11:06 AM Rating: Decent
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To even have a chance at making Pristine Elm Strong Boxes, you have to craft them using Pristine Planed Elm Lumber, Pristine Tin Studs, and Pristine Tin Sheets.


Thats not all true you only need 1 item that is Pristine in order to make a end item pristine, having more then one now in a build will not make it easier to do it. If you do make all your own items making them all pristine will get you more exp when making them so by all means do that. Exp is good :)
#21 Dec 09 2004 at 11:07 AM Rating: Decent
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Nice Post, very helpful i think the entire forum here thanks you
#22 Dec 09 2004 at 11:12 AM Rating: Decent
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Your call. I can tell you this much though, I never got 8 slot boxes until I started using all pristine ingredients. Just how I did it. Take this video for what you will.


I you want to think that go ahead no harm in it. I would put money on your skill was finally high enought to give you the ability. Belive me after going thru beta and play live I can tell you have all items being the best will not make up for skill in the area you are craft no more then it would in RL.

The idea is as you get better at your craft you make better items. After all dog poo plated with gold is still poo.
#23 Dec 09 2004 at 11:14 AM Rating: Decent
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It appears the Apprentice spells work no matter their level. I did the same thing. Made "crude" level ones and used them on myself with no problem. Then I went back to make better ones and couldn't use them so I sold them.


Correct! Tho you do get more exp for making them pristine other then stoping at crude
#24 Dec 09 2004 at 12:29 PM Rating: Decent


The only "bonus" you get from making a pristine scroll is more xp. Nothing more, nothing less.
#25 Dec 09 2004 at 12:37 PM Rating: Decent
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Thats not all true you only need 1 item that is Pristine in order to make a end item pristine, having more then one now in a build will not make it easier to do it. If you do make all your own items making them all pristine will get you more exp when making them so by all means do that. Exp is good :)


According to Eq2traders if your build components are pristine as opposed to a lower quality this will increase your total durability as well as give you more exp...

Use low quality build components (pristine primary both times) and watch how much your durability bar goes down when you suffer a -45 to durability as compared to crafting with pristine build components...the same -45 to durability doesn't take as much away from the bar...At least prior to this patch this was the case
#26 Dec 09 2004 at 12:45 PM Rating: Decent
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I have noticed NO difference when using low quality componets. It may depend on the specific item your making.

Personaly I use low quality items for anything that does not give me exp and is not a primary componet. I can still make a Perfect final product 95% of the time. Of course there is nothing you can do against that rare random -200/200. ;)This lets me crank out base componets in secounds, instead of a minute. Kicked out 20 burlap patterns this morning from scratch in under half an hour. Including making the thread.


Edited, Thu Dec 9 12:47:13 2004 by Corison
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