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#1 Dec 09 2004 at 6:16 AM Rating: Decent
I have heard that Hitpoints are based solely on Base Stamina. I have a couple questions about this.

1. What is the upside to having higher stamina through equipment if it wont effect your hitpoints? Does this make you recover quicker or what?

2. When you get a choice to add stamina via quests or leveling, does it add to your base?
#2 Dec 09 2004 at 8:59 AM Rating: Decent
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Hit points are based off of stamina in general, as you gain stamina you gain hitpoints. Ideally, however, you want gear that provides raw +HP instead of +stamina as you will end up with more hp this way.

To plainly answer your question: Raising your Staming, at any time, will rais your HP. I haven't really check the calculation as to how much hp per sta, but I would guess that it would be 5 or 10 hp per 1 sta.
#3 Dec 09 2004 at 11:38 AM Rating: Decent
Yes, but would the hp come from gaining stamina through eq? I don't think it does. For example if you had 100 hp at 20 stamina, and got a helmet that gave 1 stamina, would you have 105 hp or still 100? And if you would still have 100, then what is the use for stamina as far as equipment goes? Does it have to do with recovery, or power, or what?
#4 Dec 09 2004 at 11:59 AM Rating: Decent
I guess this is what I am really asking. Lets use a simple example:


Character A is a level 1 fighter, with 18 base stamina.

Character B is a level 1 fighter, with 18 base stamina.

Both are the same race and are both naked except Character B has a helmet that gives +1STA.

Will Character B have more hitpoints now then Character A or the same? Will Character B have more hitpoints after they each level or will it be the same? Are the total hitpoints based solely on your base STA?

Thanks for the help.
#5 Dec 09 2004 at 12:28 PM Rating: Decent
additional Stamina would increase the amount of HPs. but I think not as effective as adding HPs, I mean +1 STA < +1 HPs. But I think STA not only adding HPs, there must be something else added instead of HPs.

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I would guess that it would be 5 or 10 hp per 1 sta.


I dont think 1 sta would gain that much of HPs. I think about 1%-2% of your base HP per each additional STA, or less.
#6 Dec 09 2004 at 12:37 PM Rating: Decent
Ok, I am really confused now. So if you wear STA equipment, you get more hp then if you dont? I didn't think it worked like that. I was told it was based on Base Stamina. So do the HP appear instantly when you put on the equipment, or do you get additional HP when you level if you are wearing HP equipment?
#7 Dec 09 2004 at 2:06 PM Rating: Decent
Can anyone actually answer my question, or do I just have to create a new character and test it out at early levels when leveling is easy?
#8 Dec 09 2004 at 3:01 PM Rating: Decent
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give em a chance to read it ... some people dont have access to read that often :).

i believe that sta does add hp, though i do not know the "exchange rate."

i'm not sure why you'd have to create a new toon to try this out. either a sta item adds hp or it doesnt.

i think i have a sta item or two on an alt... i'll look this evening and report back if i come to any conclusions :).
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#9 Dec 09 2004 at 3:04 PM Rating: Decent
I would need to create a new guy to test if wearing sta eq when leveling makes a difference.
#10 Dec 09 2004 at 3:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Holy crap, my mood is going downhill today. Deep breath...


As I have explained, YES any +STA you gain adds to your total HP.

You put on a piece of armor with +5 STA you gain some HP from that. You take that armor off, you lose that much HP from your total.

If you are really having that much trouble understanding it, go get a piece of armor that offers +STA and put it on and take it off. Shouldn't be hard to figure it out.

I know, I know - "chill out" - I really don't mean this to come off as harsh as I assume it will - just in a really tactless mood atm. =/
#11 Dec 09 2004 at 3:11 PM Rating: Decent
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And no, wearing stamina gear just to level will not give you more permanant HP, as soon as you take that stamina gear off - you lose the HP you gained while wearing it.

Your total HP will raise a certain amount each level from simply gaining a level, it is a different amount for each person.

Wearing +STA gear adds so many HP per STA. Getting a Stamina buff, similarly raises your HP the same amount per stamina point.

Wearing gear that says +200 HP, is better than wearing a piece of gear that says +10 STA.

The exact HP:STA ratio I do not know, but will gladly figure out as soon as I get home from work.
#12 Dec 09 2004 at 3:11 PM Rating: Decent
so sorry GXM, but your previous post didn't exactly answer my question. And for your information, I am at work so I can't exactly try that now. I figured this is a chat board about EQ2, so I ask my questions. Many dumber questions have been asked than mine. So instead of coming off harsh then apologizing for it, don't come off harsh at all. Use the backspace key and say us all some trouble.
#13 Dec 09 2004 at 3:13 PM Rating: Decent
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never appologized for it /shrug
#14 Dec 09 2004 at 3:19 PM Rating: Decent

"I really don't mean this to come off as harsh as I assume it will - just in a really tactless mood atm. =/"


Yeah thats what I thought
#15 Dec 09 2004 at 3:21 PM Rating: Decent
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wow...

/em offers everyone a bit of tea.

i misunderstood the question you asked originally, and was thinking perhaps something had changed after beta, when last i actually *looked* at this sort of thing, but if i understand it correctly then let's try this:

if you are wearing a piece of equipment when leveling, this does *nothing* for your *base* stats. this is a temporary positive effect based solely and directly on the stat on the piece of equipment in question.

if you take that piece of equipment off, and level, your hp will still go up by the *exact* same amount that they would have gone up had you been wearing it.

if you then put the piece of equipment back on, you'll regain the same stat that you had when you wore it last level, as long as you have not outgrown it.

base stats are unrelated to equipment. equipment stats may change based on level, but that's easily seen by examining the equipment.

better?

y'all be good to each other :).
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#16 Dec 09 2004 at 3:22 PM Rating: Decent
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right then, so has your question been answered? because from what i can tell i just posted a lot of information that gxm had already, because i thought by your response that it hadnt, since the info wasnt really acknowledged.

Edited, Thu Dec 9 15:27:46 2004 by runyariel
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EQ: Runyaessz, 5 Monk, Phinigel
EVE: Runym/Runyn/Runyl, 43M SP each
SWTOR: Pardoric, 22 Merc, on vaca
EQ: Runyariel Varyuvantel, 65 Enchanter, Tarew Marr, on vaca
LoTRO: Runyarian, 38 hunter, Vilya, on vaca
WoW: Runyarian, 70 hunter, Muradin, on sabbatical
EQ2: Runylala, 25 Troll Bard, Qey, Blackburrow, retired
WAR: Runyael, 30 DiscO Khaine, Ironfist,retired.
CoH: Hissing Chicken, 16 Scrapper, Pinnacle, retired
#17 Dec 09 2004 at 3:26 PM Rating: Decent
Thanks runyariel, and I didn't mean to be cranky with him, he just copped an attitude like he already told me when it was unclear. No one should have to feel dumb for asking a question on a question board.
#18 Dec 09 2004 at 3:28 PM Rating: Decent
but that does answer my question so thank you very much :)
#19 Dec 09 2004 at 3:30 PM Rating: Decent
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it's a good idea to dust off the patience ability when reading a board, i've found :).

and he's well respected in my book, so i was starting to get testy myself, when i decided that this would be counterproductive, and that perhaps you just needed what he said to be restated, and expanded a tad... and then he'd already said that bit, too :).

so between the two of us, we've got you set :).

Edited, Thu Dec 9 15:32:26 2004 by runyariel
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EQ: Runyaessz, 5 Monk, Phinigel
EVE: Runym/Runyn/Runyl, 43M SP each
SWTOR: Pardoric, 22 Merc, on vaca
EQ: Runyariel Varyuvantel, 65 Enchanter, Tarew Marr, on vaca
LoTRO: Runyarian, 38 hunter, Vilya, on vaca
WoW: Runyarian, 70 hunter, Muradin, on sabbatical
EQ2: Runylala, 25 Troll Bard, Qey, Blackburrow, retired
WAR: Runyael, 30 DiscO Khaine, Ironfist,retired.
CoH: Hissing Chicken, 16 Scrapper, Pinnacle, retired
#20 Dec 09 2004 at 3:42 PM Rating: Decent
Well I certainly appreciate it, and I meant no disrespect to either of you.
#21 Dec 09 2004 at 5:32 PM Rating: Decent
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i figured that, which is why i decided that getting cranky wouldnt help.

and ... ask anytime... if i see it, i'll do my best to help :).
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EQ: Runyaessz, 5 Monk, Phinigel
EVE: Runym/Runyn/Runyl, 43M SP each
SWTOR: Pardoric, 22 Merc, on vaca
EQ: Runyariel Varyuvantel, 65 Enchanter, Tarew Marr, on vaca
LoTRO: Runyarian, 38 hunter, Vilya, on vaca
WoW: Runyarian, 70 hunter, Muradin, on sabbatical
EQ2: Runylala, 25 Troll Bard, Qey, Blackburrow, retired
WAR: Runyael, 30 DiscO Khaine, Ironfist,retired.
CoH: Hissing Chicken, 16 Scrapper, Pinnacle, retired
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