Downtime getting a little annoyingFollow

I understand that the game is new, and is undergoing a lot of maintenance. I understand that frequent server resets are needed.

The problem I am running into is this, the only way I have to make decent money outside of crafting is the broker system. But I cant use the broker system, because not long after I go to bed the server goes down.

I try to set my character up in sales mode in the morning again before work, but without fail there is serve maintenace between 7-8AM.

So here I am with backpack upon backpack of things to sell, and no way to sell them =/

I really miss the Auction Hall in Final Fantasy. Either they need to get the servers stable, or provide some sort of item you can purchase that allows you to sell a small number of items while you are offline.

What about altering the times, so everyone is happy? Instead of pissing off a certain time-challenged segment

I agree Ark. Every morning that I get up, I've been kicked off and am at the character select screen. Now I completely understand the need for down time, and I agree that it's the best time for them to be doing it in the way of play time, however it seriously puts a damper in brokering if I'm getting kicked off while I'm not going to be home for another 6 hours (in which I could've been selling.)

I expect to see the downtime decrease over the next few months, but it'll be very hard to move things until they don't have to restart every day.

Honestly, what OS are they using... NT?

Well if they switch the times up you never know when it will happen until the announcement before hand. At least at this junction we KNOW when the downtimes are going to be. Yeah it affects people... the majority of people and myself included... but at least i know when it is. The fact of the matter is that there is going to be downtime... so when do you want it? I for one dont want it in the afternoon when I can be playing. I'd rather have it in the morning when I'm at work and the majority others are at work or at school... I guess SOE thinks that people would rather play more then just sell... I would think they're right.

No matter when the downtime is it's going to affect the "Seller" But better the seller then the majority of people getting on to actually play and get items to sell.

I'm going to buy a monkey and teach it to log me back on after restarts.

On a serious note, Dung, that's a good idea. I'll have to try it tonight. Although I can see a situation like this happening...

*ignorant_n00b_01 enters your house*
Ignorant_n00b_01 says, "Hey, j00, ar3 you th3r3?"
Ignorant_n00b_01 says, "I knoew you are th3r3, you'r3 running!"
Ignorant_n00b_01 says, "Hey, j00, answ3r m3!"
Ignorant_n00b_01 says, "Fin3, I'll go buy from som3on3 else."
*ignorant_n00b_01 leaves your house*

Dungwader, it is the server resets that are the problem. This morning, and just about every morning, the servers are either down or locked.

I am just griping, I realize that. Part of buying a game at release is dealing with bugs, server resets, and downtime. And, as a whole, this is the smoothest release I have ever seen for a MMPORPG.

The annoying thing is bow the brokering system works. If I have to be online to sell, and can't stay online while sleeping or working, then how do I sell?

Its gotten bad enough that I am starting to vendor items that I am sure would sell quickly. I am also giving away lots of old armor and weapons, because the few silver I would get from a vendor is not worth it.

I bought some Pristine Jewelry for over a gold each, but just have not been able to move it so finally I gave it to guild members and friends.

I am not having huge money problems, but I do want to save up for master scrolls and thats going to cost dozens of gold.

Lots of games now a days have offline selling supported. FFXI, WoW, and SW:G all have implimented some sort of offline selling. I'm goign to have to spend some time this afternoon digging around the devs posts and see why they implimented the bazaar system.

Personally, I think the offline selling is the way to go. I don't see it hurting the economy in any way, and I believe is stimulates it by allowing anyone to buy and sell; not just those with broadband and a second computer (I know, I don't have a second computer, but I know my main needs a break every now and then.)

I tend to set myself up to sell before I go to sleep or leave for work.

90% of the time I am NOT logged in when I return, several hours later.

15% of the time the server boots me so fast I don't have time to sell anything - and my primary product are backpacks, which sell fairly fast.

10% of the time the buffs I cast before I left have only used up 30 minutes of their time, meaning that's how long I was able to sell before the server booted me - usually resulting in nothing being sold.

As you can imagine, I greatly support the offline selling of products.

I'm not saying that it is but it could be your internet service provider. During times of low activity your ISP might cut you back. Also there is a theory that some players have that SOE servers might try to relieve some of the server load by booting inactive accounts. That would be really shady but possible. Just about everyone that can leave there computer on over night to sell will try to do so. So you now have thousands of players logged in doing nothing plus the players that are actually actively playing running around. If the server needs a little less load then the simple answer would be to boot the accounts that have been inactive the longest.
I will continue to run in my corner until it proves to not be effective. Good journeys.

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Not my ISP... I go to college. That pure 12 MB/s line is really nice.

Honestly, if it was revealed (I don't think it is the case, but you do never know) that they were booting people who weren't active, then it would be enough for me to take my business else where, as well as it should be for the majority of people who play. Don't get me wrong. I love the game and almost everything about it, but if they are booting people who are inactive and forcing you to BE inactive to sell... I don't think I need to go any further here.

Oh, I know it's just a theory. I'm not one to go running off the deepend because someone on a message board posts that they _may_ be doing something. I would've quit FFXI long before I did, and would be quitting EQ when I left work if that was the case.

But I agree, also. Anyone who is like that (who reads posts then goes screaming to all their friends / family / and anyone else who will listen about how SoE is eating their childred and selling their souls) needs to realize that it's unproven and has no merit other than a few people get booted every night. I work in the computer industry and sometimes there's just no explanation as to why things happen the way they do.

I have to say I set my toon to AFK most nights and leave it selling and have only been booted once and that was due to a server reset. The time I'm doing this is probably quite busy aswell 4pm PST - 11pm PST (I'm in the UK)...so the server load has never really affected anything for me.

Minky