Enchanters and mezzing...Follow

Greetings all...

I am playing a level 13 enchanter which is actually my first in EQ1 or EQ2. I was a dedicated cleric in EQ1 and could handle myself pretty well there. I decided to play an enchanter just to see how different/difficult it was. Anyway, I was in a group killing gnolls and one of the people in it asked why I wasn't mezzing the ones that weren't actually fighting someone (we had a group of 4). I thought that wouldn't make any differance since I could mezz them and the people in the melee couldn't tell which ones were mezzed and break it by hitting one (or doing a group attack spell). I was told that he had /assist on and would know. Since I've never played an enchanter or a melee class before, I am a bit confused - am I missing something? A Cliff's notes version of mezzing and /assist from someone, please...??

All of the DPS type players should be assisting the main tank so that everyone fights only the mob he's fighting. There's 2 ways to do that.

#1) Have a /assist macro with the main tanks name in it

#2) Just leave your tank highlighted (either click on him with your mouse or use your function keys). If you have him selected, your offensive spells/abilities will target whatever he's fighting.

This helps the tank maintain aggro from the extra mobs he's not currently fighting as well as makes your fights more efficient.

One of your jobs as a Enchanter is to keep those extra mobs from beating on the main tank. Mezz'ing the extra mobs makes the fights much easier as well as lets you take on harder stuff.

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Bah, too slow.

Edited, Mon Dec 6 10:15:28 2004 by subvert

Never raid much in EQ1 did you? If there was ever a time that I felt more like a hood ornament.....

If someone tells you it's not worth mezzing right now, do it anyway. Get yourself in the habit of it. If it's broken, mez it again. Make up a wiseguy macro -

IE: "Mezzing %t! Break it and I break your face!"

If someone consistently breaks mez, tell them to stop targetting mobs and target the MA to attack. There's really no excuse for it in this game considering you don't even need a macro, or even have to type /assist, to assist.

Hopefully these tips may help you. 2 mob strategy

1. When you target your MA you will see a blue outline of the mob that they are targeting. This lets you know which one NOT to mez. If you then click on the MA mob you will see what mobs are attached to it. Have a look at those remaining mobs and work out which one to mez first. If you time it right you can have one asleep before the MA mob arrives at camp. A circle of color will appear around the heads of the mezzed mob, and at the moment a resisted mez still shows the spell effect so read the text.

4 mob variation

You will have one mob off to sleep as the other 3 arrive at camp. 1 will be the MA target and the other two should also be on him. I use the option of having NPC hp/power on screen so you can usually work out fast which mob the group is on. Use TAB to toggle between targets and mez them off. You should be able to have 3 mobs asleep in about 30secs. Until its down to about 2 mobs- keep them mezzed and keep buffs up on group- haste and crack. Once you ding 22 you get a second unresistable mez you can basically fire one off after another. Mob one asleep at pull, mob 2 asleep a few seconds later and mob 3 a few after that. 3 Mobs asleep in under 10seconds.

Adding DPS

If a 2 mob fight, after mezzing 1, I will load up the following line: Static Pulse - Its a good feeler for Resists, then SILENCE, let me say it again SILENCE. The best spell we have next to mez. Use it each time you can. It stops mobs from healing and casting and using skills. Gloom , Cereb. These dots once on cannot be resisted so its sure damage. Just be sure not to gain the attention of the mob (gank agro).

Also just to note that Tanks often use an AoE taunt that will undo all your good work. Talk to them nicely and explain that their small gain in stats from using the ability probably doesnt outweight 1. the added damage from the extra mobs 2. the wasted mana in the first place 3. need for larger heals 4. and those moments when you see ...has gone linkdead.




Edited, Mon Dec 6 11:01:01 2004 by EmRedrum

Edited, Wed Dec 8 10:22:20 2004 by EmRedrum

some good old-fashioned chanterness can be found here. not sure if they've updated, but a dern good site any way ya look at it.

one thing that's nice in eq2 is that we get a single-target stun that actually works omg. i've used it (mind blank but you get it at like 13 or so... daunting gaze maybe?) to slow down the damage a mob that's being tanked does. you can also use ego shock for a ministun. i've duo'd with a sorceror and done encounters without any kind of healing along this way. even took down yellows with a predator along :).

and yar .. mez anything that isnt getting hit :), dot anything that's rooted cuz you have a nifty othermage in the group, and dot the current tanktarget... oh, and train the tank if one comes after you so the tank can get a taunt off :).

welcome to the world of multitasking... enjoy your stay :).

oh, and get used to dying... part of bein a chanter :D.

Edited, Mon Dec 6 12:44:16 2004 by runyariel

omg if that is true that's spooterrific :).

my peeps are trained not to break mez since we came from eq1 so they've not tried, at least that i've noticed ;).

will give this a go the next time i'm on and not taking on summin that would kick my ... robe, if it broke :).

Do you have your AppIII fascinate, or still your App I. I can mez reds in the beginning stages of both Stormhold and TS with App III. App I would not mez yellows or higher that I noticed.

This actually sounds encouraging - aoe's don't break mez? Imagine that.

Hey, if you try a chanter, be prepared for the stupidest comments from other players, like "why aren't you doing any damage?" There are tons of new players to the eq system. They are either new to on line games or come from a game where (I guess) mezzing didn't exist. And they will ***** you up constantly - and will have to be taught what to do. With some players you will have to tell them five different times in five different ways until they finally get it. You will get tired of it, but in time it will pay off. As you level up eventually most players will "get" how to work with you and not against you.

Yes I noticed this today. We had a new player who did not know not to break mezz. But the mob stayed on them, and did not make a bee line for the chanter.

First time I got to group with a chanter (And a good one too.) We had a great group going. MT would pull, chanter would mezz one on the way in and pick the others off in short order. The MT would go get the first mob mezzed and do em in order. Amazing how well it all worked and fortunately the new player was pretty quick to pick up on group tactics.


God I love finding experienced players when I only have a short time to play each day.

Yeah- I noticed that AoE DD wasnt breaking(mine anyway). You can always throw it in to see how many hits you get. If more than one hit then somethings not sleepy...