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#1 Dec 06 2004 at 12:20 AM Rating: Decent
I'm sure this has been covered before, but I read something in the eq2 website message board, and for some reason couldn't respond to it there.

I'm just wondering, why does it bother people when someone doesn't use a completely original name? Someone talked about reporting someone for using the name Clint Eastwood. Why would that bother anyone? I understand complaining about people who use vulgar names, but using Clint Eastwood is harmless. I just don't understand this concept and was wondering what other opinions are regarding the subject.
#2 Dec 06 2004 at 12:24 AM Rating: Decent
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no one said that. If they did they probbly meant to say **** Eastwood. They said that they would have reported someone named Penishead to a GM if they were that kind of person.
#3 Dec 06 2004 at 1:00 AM Rating: Decent
I for one do not all the bullcrap names such as Clint Eastwood. There are hundreds if not thousands of Celtic, Pegan, Elvish and any other kind of lore websites that either convert a name or list names that can be used. The idea of meeting Yoda in a swamp in EQ is really daft. I even saw a guy named "Space" and his surname "Forent", funny but completely off into left field. I got pissed. maybe it is just me but stick to names that would fit the lore.

Rucker

PS if anyone wants the elvish name website, LMK!!!
#4 Dec 06 2004 at 3:13 AM Rating: Decent
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Who are you to say what names fit or dont fit the lore? Id say thats up to the creators of the game. Theres people who complain about names like Rain, Moon, etc. Then you got a$$holes who report a name that they recognize from shows, anime, etc. (ever think maybe that person thought of it off the top of their head?) Just because a name appears in another type of media doesnt mean its not fit for somewhere else, except if its vulger or just way to noticable (i.e. Sephiroth, Vader, etc.) But once again I do not beleave we have the right to say what names do or do not belong in game, its the creators say in the end.

Lets face it, lots of people do not want to run around with a weird name like some elf, Celtic, or whatever. Not everyone is fond of odd names. They want a character with a name that they can a) pronounce. Not everyone can pronounce these names b) a name that stands out. Staavalor is not something I want to run around with Im sorry. Just cut people some slack, someone named Psychokiller isnt going to ruin the game, and if it does for you go play something like a one-player game where you dont have to deal with peoples weird names.
#5 Dec 06 2004 at 3:40 AM Rating: Default
Or hey, how bout this, We can hate these people if we want for having an extremely limited imagination. So ***** off:)
#6 Dec 06 2004 at 3:43 AM Rating: Decent
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if there are really people reporting names like these, I found people are too easily offended these days...
#7 Dec 06 2004 at 3:55 AM Rating: Decent
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Hate them all you want. Just dont sit around and whine about it. Nor do you need to report those unimaginative names whenever you see them. These names are NOT detramental to the well being of this game thats all there is to it. A couple or a ton of goofy names are not going to hinder or destroy the game. Unless the names are vulger theres really no need to bother SoE with a report about it.
So....***** off. 8)


Edited, Mon Dec 6 03:56:57 2004 by WasteOfSpace
#8 Dec 06 2004 at 4:08 AM Rating: Default
Its against naming policy to use name of real persons or characters such as Clint Eastowwod, Rambo etc.
#9 Dec 06 2004 at 4:14 AM Rating: Decent
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There you have it. Now quick, report every version of Sephiroth, Darth Vader, Yoda, Clint Eastwood, etc. you can find! 8P

On a serious note, I wonder if its just real people and copyrighted names or if its ALL fictional characters.



Edited, Mon Dec 6 04:16:26 2004 by WasteOfSpace
#10 Dec 06 2004 at 5:34 AM Rating: Decent
During beginning of EQ, it was any copyrighted name, and since books, movies, comics, band names, song names and so forth are almost all copyrighted, just make one up.
#11 Dec 06 2004 at 5:44 AM Rating: Decent
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So unless they changed it its copyrighted characters only. At least (if its still the same) they didint try taking things to the extreme. I could only imagine if they decide to change all these names...that would be one helluva funny experience. 8)



*I DO NOT have any of the previously mentioned types of names just to clear things up.*

Edited, Mon Dec 6 05:45:58 2004 by WasteOfSpace
#12 Dec 06 2004 at 6:13 AM Rating: Decent
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If you really can't think of a name that's semi-original (I saw a Hamtaro on the Lucan D'Lere server today...yeah, I winced) then there's this nifty little tab when you create your character that's called "Naming Suggestions"

Really handy for those that don't feel like coming up with something or don't care what they're toons are called, and it spares the rest of us from seeing more Hamtaro's.
#13 Dec 06 2004 at 6:28 AM Rating: Decent
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Lol Hamtaro? Thats great, I just hope it was an Ogre or Troll.




Now seriously, can someone explain to me (nicely) why someones choice in a name bothers you? I myself dont get it. I just want to see why people have a problem with it. Again, explain it without insults please. 8)
#14 Dec 06 2004 at 6:38 AM Rating: Decent
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My names are far from the most inventive, as you can see below. I have my own rule that I won't use an already-heard-of name..like Clint Eastwood, or Hellokitty, or whatever. But If i see them in game (which i have heh), I just let em be. As long as they don't bother me, im fine with it.

The names I do have a problem with are ones that either A.)are perverted, racist, (insert gross violation here) obvious attempts to break the naming rules or B.) ones that are not names at all. Aznriceboy always comes to mind. Thats not a name. Maybe a screen name, but it certainly is not a name. Do I report those? Nope :) I don't report names period. I was a guide in EQ1, and I saw so many attempts at getting people into trouble for the smallest things...I have a high tolerance for it. I also have seen enough really bad names (Erudites were a favorite, and I'll let you think of the messed up names people came up for them).

All in all however I really don't care. It would be great if people stuck to less-known characters if they couldn't come up with their own name (Hamtaro and Hellokitty are just begging to be spotted), but alas, that day will never happen..and wasting my energy fretting over it solves nothing :)

Edited, Mon Dec 6 06:42:16 2004 by Stashy
#15 Dec 06 2004 at 7:30 AM Rating: Decent
WasteOfSpace wrote:
Lol Hamtaro? Thats great, I just hope it was an Ogre or Troll.




Now seriously, can someone explain to me (nicely) why someones choice in a name bothers you? I myself dont get it. I just want to see why people have a problem with it. Again, explain it without insults please. 8)


Well, I and many others think that names like Clint Eastwood really really dont fit in a massive multiplayer online roleplay game. It ruins the mood of being in the world of magic.
I get so annoyed on names all the time.. But I´m not one to report a name. Im to lazy :x

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Naming Privilege Policy



The Naming Privilege Policy applies to the following naming options in EverQuest II.

First Names

Surnames

Guild Names

House Pet Names

Any naming options that may be implemented in future expansions or updates




All of the names you find in the world of EverQuest II should reflect the genre of the game. Original, high-fantasy style names are desired, but all naming options in EverQuest II will be subject to the following Policies.

The following types of names are inappropriate:

1. Vile, profane, rude, or racist names including common swear words, anatomical references, racial slurs, and homonyms of these words.

2. Combinations of words that produce an offensive result (e.g. Hugeaz, Tug Mcgroin).

3. Names of religious, occult, or significant historic origin (e.g. Jesus, Allah, Satan, Stalin, Angel, Devil, Demon).

4. Trademarked names of products, services, or concepts (e.g. , Marlboro, Sony, Band-Aid).

5. Non-fantasy oriented names from popular media. These names can be either fictional (e.g. Rambo, Darthvader) or non-fictional (e.g. Garth Brooks, Pierce Brosnan, Ronald Reagan, Michael Jordan).

6. Common words and phrases that would not be found in the place and time setting of the game (e.g. Switchblade, Phaser, Toaster, Sloegin, Anyone). This includes references to drug substances or drug related paraphernalia. (e.g. Ecstacy, Cannibis)

7. Proper names from EverQuest or EverQuest II (e.g. Rathe, Karana, Antonia). This also includes the first or last name of any significant EverQuest or EverQuest II NPC (e.g. Dorn, Trumpy, Bayle).

8. Names chosen with the intent or possessed with the effect of harming the reputation of or used to impersonate a Customer or representative of Sony Online Entertainment.

9. Names containing titles within them, such as, but not limited to: The, Lord, Lady, Master, King, Knight, Sir, Father (e.g. Sirtallon, Lordeagle, Mothermaggy, Darksister).

10. Fantasy-oriented names that are easily recognized from popular existing media (e.g. Merlin, Gandalf, Belgarath, Drizzt, Tanis).

11. Names where the combination of the first, last, or Guild name violate any of the naming policy rules.

12. Surname Conditions

a. Surnames may not contain spaces

b. Surnames must be at least 4 characters in length

c. Any number of Customer may have the same Surname

13. Choose Wisely

a. Name options that do not violate the Naming Privilege Policy will not be changed by our Customer Service Staff. However, there may be options implemented in the future such as a Character Name Change service (as in EverQuest) that will allow for name options to be changed.

For all of the above, misspellings and alternative spellings of the word or words are also unacceptable.

Conditions for Name Changes:

Character names that are found to be in violation of any of the above policies will be changed upon being discovered by our Customer Service Team, no matter when the name was created. Repeated attempts at violating the above policies may result in disciplinary actions taken on the account. This may include but is not limited to: Removal of Naming Privileges, Account Suspension, and/or Account Cancellation.

Should the Naming Privileges be removed from a character or account due to inappropriate actions and policy violations, the character/account will lose the ability to add Surnames to character(s), choose House pet names, or create a Guild. Removal of Naming Privileges may be either of a limited duration or permanent, depending on the severity and/or frequency of the policy violations.

Should a guild name be in violation of our policies, the guild will be disbanded and any and all information that has been posted on the Station Players guild page associated with the in appropriate guild name will be lost and not recoverable.
#16 Dec 06 2004 at 10:09 AM Rating: Decent
The more things change...

honestly naming seems to be a bone of contention:

you have the patheticly silly names like the before mentioned "space forent"

the height of unorigional, put your sephiroth or legolas clones here.

the rather cliche' "Moonriver", "Winddancer", "Icemaiden" or something like that..

the unpronounceable, and equally unspellable names which I can't even think of right now.

I suppose with a name comes expectations, if you take a silly name expect to not be taken very seriously by certain groups of people. Unorigional names also lend themselves to not being taken seriously but not nearly as much as the silly names.. mainly unorigional names illicit a groan. (though the hardcore "setting feel" people will likely ignore these individuals.) But, silly names are pretty memorable, be the memory good or bad.

Cliche' names = welcome to the world of joe average.... cheesy but not unbearable.. often not terribly memorable either.

and of course the unpronounceable names which are simply too hard to type (or too long) to reply to the person in question.. it's not that these people are ignored as much as the fact that it's far too difficult to spell the name while playing twister with voodoo candles, with your eyes and fingers crossed in the necessary mannar to be able to type in those letters in that order.. 0_o

as for me, certain names do disrupt the "feel" of the world.. but it's not like I have to pay attention to them. I'm not going to bother reporting names like that cause to be honest it's "not that deep to me."

however, with my friends list I'm VERY particular....
#17 Dec 06 2004 at 10:08 PM Rating: Decent
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Our esteemed friend 'space wants people to explain something without insults AFTER he states what could pointedly be considered to be insults, and expletives?
#18 Dec 06 2004 at 10:20 PM Rating: Decent
I could care less what name a person chooses as long as it's not vulgur!

Edited, Mon Dec 6 22:21:39 2004 by nazbus
#19 Dec 07 2004 at 1:01 AM Rating: Default
heres an idea

if you dont like someones name then go die and let everyone else play
#20 Dec 07 2004 at 1:14 AM Rating: Decent
At least if there is no nameing policy you can tell who the morons are. I tend to try not to talk to or group with people who have names like Buttmeister, Assman or Madbitch, my life is much better because of it.

However I like the naming policy, it helps keep the fantasy 'feel' of the game that gets shattered if you see 'Emimem' run past.

Well if people can't think of an original name of their own, that's their misfortune really. You're obviously not very creative if you have to steal your characters name from Final Fantasy, Lord of the Rings or Yugioh.
#21 Dec 07 2004 at 4:29 AM Rating: Decent
I saw a duo last night..
Sweeteye Goodheart and Meaneye..

Whats the chance of two couple of parents named there childrens xxxeye and then those children would become a couple? Slim to non I say so I guess they must have been sibblings O,o
#22 Dec 07 2004 at 4:34 AM Rating: Default
I feel my new chars name is appropiate...name is: Mackinhoz

hahahhahaha and I hope he doesnt get deleted
#23REDACTED, Posted: Dec 07 2004 at 2:35 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) i made a char named the n word i cant believe it accepted it hahaha
#24REDACTED, Posted: Dec 07 2004 at 2:36 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) i made a char named the n word i cant believe it accepted it hahaha
#25 Dec 07 2004 at 9:54 PM Rating: Decent
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I agree with the OP. Someone with a nonlewd name should be left alone, along with the people who fall on the borderline. If someone has name you don't like, don't group with them, period. As for reporting, why would you go out of your way to ruin someone elses fun? If it happened on an RP prefered server I can see you'd have some reason to be against it, but most folks who'd use those names prolly wouldn't even try makeing a character there.

That said, I love to rp (usually to an insane degree, and its even better when no one else in the group is.. hey, i'm funny like that..) and I tend to use the name generator until it gives me a name 5 characters long or less. When you see a ratonga with the name Limmywinks or a kerra with the name Mrbigglesworth, take it at face value and have a small laugh. Unoriginal names happen, no reason to ruin some elses gameing cause you happen to see them running around or chatting in ooc.
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