Stop destroying the forum here.Follow

Wish I could change the title. If I could it would read "Sticky this"

Well, there are not to many E2 forums here, no criticism as it's early, and not much from admin in the way of on or off topic direction correction, so what can we expect.

As for destroying it, thats pretty far fetched and selfish. It would assume what you like or don't in a forum is what all will or won't like.

Nothing like patting yourself on the back and then slamming everyone else.

Great point. Glad pretty much everything has been gone over.



I was a bit over the top with what I said. Selfish? Perhaps with how I said what I did, it could be taken in that context.

This forum is overrun with ******** posting reviews contrasting games (after theres been 30 of those threads made mind you), completely derailing threads with **** that doesnt belong here, and other things that really arent on topic for a specific game forum. There are people who really are out to make this forum a miserable quagmire of aimless crap that you need to wade through just to find the threads that really have to do with the game itself. Now a few of these here and there isnt a big deal, but it seems like all the threads are going this way lately.


*by the way Toxic....CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!*
(about a week late, sorry)

Aye Im the same way. I bounce from one to the other then to the next. Im burnt out but I need to fill my free time (I work from 6PM to 3AM on avg.) I miss everything I use to do and this is one of the few things I can still do with my friends, but anymore its just not doing it. Ill keep doing it I guess though, I feel its slowly loseing my attention. Next is WoW (6 friends are/going to be on it) Ill trudge through it for 3 or so months then go to the next. Vicious cycle that doesnt seem to have an end. 8(

*Currently on one week hiatus. Star Wars:KotOR II comes out Monday 8)*

Edited, Sat Dec 4 06:29:37 2004 by WasteOfSpace

I agree with you toxic. This forum was so helpful for EQ1 for me and has been a little lacking for EQ2. I don't even mean the information ,which is provided by the players, and will grow in time.

There is a little too much talk here about other games besides EQ2. These are not bad threads, just in the wrong forum. There is this, http://eqoa.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=22 which has had some of these discussions about Xmmog vs Ymmog and like the threads here, they have been good conversations.

I also think I'm going to go rez the thread about breaking up the forums and see what page I find that on. That would certainly make things more organized around here.

I believe THIS is the forum they set up to compare and talk about any game you can think of. The problem with this forum(and pretty much all forums out there) is that you will notice a lot of newer posters askng the same questions and starting the same threads on topics that have been covered 1,000 times already.

People can't use the search function here unless they become a premium member. On top of that a good portion of premium members don't bother to use it either. You will always have people that don't bother to search the threads and just start threads becuase they can.

Another problem is the amount of traffic on forums. Many people don't post on the multi game forum because no one is hardly on it. You come to here or the FFXI main board, there is gonna be a lot more people. Some people are too impatient when waiting for a response so they will just post the same thread in another forum until they get an answer.

In their defense however I (and I am pretty sure the rest of the EQ2 community) don't post on other forums, because frankly I don't care what other people think about this game. I love it, and thats all that matters to me. If someone comes here and has a question I will try to help them out. I will also post questions I have (that hopefully haven't been posted before).

One last thing to take into consideration is how new this game is. You will have multiple threads comparing this to other games for at least another 5 or 6 months, just because it hasn't been around long enough for people to understand it.

When EQ came out, there was practically no other game to compare it to(I know, there were few games). It was not like it is now, where you have multiple popular MMOS out there. People don't have time do devote themselves to multiple games. They wan't to find what they will like. The problems with a lot of MMOs is that you have to buy the games to experience them. Many people don't have the money or time to invest in multiple games. They try to get as much input as they can from people that are already playing them.

The other problem you run into are Fanboys. These people have nothing better to do than shoot any holes they can into any game that they don't play. This is true with all games. There are people that you cannot convince to try anything new. They will just come here to start problems or justify their choice in gaming at all costs.

I am a fan of different games, but not a fanboy. There is a huge difference. I like a few games on this site that I have tried playing. Right now I am immersed in EQ2 and I like it that way.

The best thing you can do is just ignore the redundant posts. Either that or link the original thread to their post. That way people will stop posting in the threads and they will fall to the bottom of the pile. You just have to be patient it will take some time before the dust settles on this game.

EDIT: Can't spell today

Edited, Sat Dec 4 14:13:42 2004 by ffreak

Toxicmoon:

I'm not going to say that I disagree with you at all.

Hell, I might even fall into the category of those that you feel are 'destroying' the forums here. >grin<

At any rate, Alla's done a pretty dang good job getting the volume of info up that he's done so far. I think I remember seeing a post here before the site went live that he expected it to be a couple of MONTHS before he'd have things up and running in anything but the most rudimentary form. I think you'll agree that that stage has already been far surpassed.

I'm also going to guess that, as more class-, crafting- or quest-specific information is learned, guides are written and tips and tricks discovered that you'll see more narrowly-topiced Forums here. It's a fine work but it's still a work-in-progress. Give it time to grow and develop.

I think the forum has an uphill struggle but it is doing well.

There are basically two types of moderation. Some forums require you to search for a topic and continue the thread under threat of mod-lock, others get annoyed if you "resurrect" a long dead thread to add your 2cp.

Allakhazam has always been of the second type. The downside is that we get a lot more repeat questions. If you look on the EQ main forum you will always find the "Where do I go to level my <insert here>" threads etc.

A lot of people don't (or didn't) realise that Allakhazam is a site built on player input. They came here looking for walkthroughs on Day 1. The EQ2 site needs time to build some of the maturity that the old EQ site achieved after many years.

I have to agree that people posting asking to be told why EQ2 is better that some other game would be better off just reading about the game and making their own decision. But a part of that reading should be people making valid and sensible comparisons of game features. The site cannot do that or it would be seen as biased - only players can comment on what they think is better or worse than a feature in another game.

I think as people get a clearer picture of what EQ2 is the "Why should I play EQ2" posts will drop off quietly into oblivion.

oops. They removed the post I responded too. Nevermind disregard this post. No meaning to it.

Edited, Mon Dec 6 07:09:44 2004 by WasteOfSpace