Harvesting Rudeness?Follow

What if you cleared out the fish from the pond that caused a badger den to pop? Is the den then rightfully yours? You worked the area. Perhaps you even cleared out the area from dangerous MOBs.

If not then when does this implied ownership begin? As you run towards it? Once you stand next to it? After your first harvest? How about when you appear in the zone? And why exactly at that moment does it become all yours?

"What if you cleared out the fish from the pond that caused a badger den to pop? Is the den then rightfully yours? You worked the area. Perhaps you even cleared out the area from dangerous MOBs.

If not then when does this implied ownership begin? As you run towards it? Once you stand next to it? After your first harvest? How about when you appear in the zone? And why exactly at that moment does it become all yours?"


You miss the point. My clearing didn't "cause" the node to pop. The node was there surrounded by mobs, and I cleared them to get to the node. Yes, I think it is mine at that point, not the person who was watching me do it and then ran in to ninja harvest before I could click.

If someone does it to me a few times I just start following them around and make sure i get a hit or two one every node they go after. I know it is wasting my time but they catch on pretty quick.

Edited, Thu Dec 2 14:34:10 2004 by Kellek

Personally, I wouldn't like to compare myself to a vulture or a cockroach....to each his own, I guess.

As far as i am concerned i think it is wrong. But, if one were to do it to me, i would not hesitate to return the favor. As for people that mind their own buisness, i leave them alone. But, i am not out of the tier 1 zones with 40+ skill in everything, so this really doesnt apply that much to me hehe.

if it's a recurring issue, or there are little trains of foragers tracking round the zone harvesting and screaming at each other in ooc... i go to a different area if the zone is big enough, a different instance if available, or a different zone altogether. of course, if someone runs up to forage a node i'm working on, i'll /sigh or /say ... , but only to give him/her a chance to look at what s/he just did.

the best part is... many of the people that i've had do this to me have been after a particular type of node... and if i'm in a small space, i just let them go and stop harvesting. sooner or later, they'll run out of that type of node, and leave, and, at that point, i'll go fishing. it's worked several times :).

i don't mind if someone's been courteous and harvests in the same area i do, and i usually will let that person have a node we've both seen. as a matter of fact, if someone is standing next to a node, fighting or no, i wait to see what that person does with it. if s/he moves on, i harvest it. if that person harvests it, it'll respawn something else anyway :). i only become irritated if people are being inconsiderate, at which point i move on.

in the end, yes, having to forage and not getting the items you are after can be frustrating, but it's not worth getting upset over. if someone's being a hinderpart, in any regard, i remind myself that there's enough space, and enough to do, so that if i get frustrated with one aspect of the game, i can take a break and go do something else. this goes for grouping, too :).

and then there are the alts ... :D. if i'm *really* frustrated... i go roleplay the troll scout, who is rather naïve and will be moving to qeynos as a result of teen angst so that he can sing happy songs when he grows up to be a troubadour. he gets shiny object syndrome a lot, so he goes from harvesting to killing those mean goblins in the blink of an eye :).

y'all have a nice day!

This happened to me today several times by one particular player. I mentioned /ooc *not naming the player, btw, I try not to be so petty* that harvesting on a claimed "node" was rude. Of course, being from Freeport, about half the people in the C.Lands at the time told me if I wanted nice people to go to Qeynos ~_~

Apparently they can't seperate RP from common game courtesy RL sort of thing. I tried to explain it briefly to them, some of them agreed.... eh, what can I say. There's a lot of asshats out there that seem to think there's nothing wrong with elbowing in on a "claimed" harvest.

I still think it's very rude, and I never do it myself.

"If SoE intended to..." is a really weak argument. If they were to set up a rule for every little thing people get exaggerated over, the game will be ready in 5 years and that's without the extra programming work or the HUD layout for the different lock symbols. I doubt the lock on mobs was intended either, they just learned from Experience.

I'm not a hardcore "all 3 Nodes for me", it's just that above argument sounds kinda silly to me.

Anyway, I don't see much reason to "share" points anyway. The second at Node can only harvest once usually, since the one being there first had a head start and can start the 3rd harvest way earlier. So if you only go for other people nodes, you get one chance per node where others get 2 to 3...
Regarding the overall node spawn of an area it's better for the Harvesters in the area to get different nodes even if they don't want this ressource. If everyone takes a node on his own, the overall gathered ressources are more than with "sharing".

Stop your whining, its free for all. live with it.
Anyways they lowered all limits to harvest, mining trapping etc in antonica.
I was trapping in antonica with only 26 in trapping.

I see the problem in Tier 1......but Tier 2 is so spread out (in the commonlands at least) that I don't see the problem. Does Tier 3 resort back to the problems we saw in Tier 1?

If I had scanned down a little when I was posting my harvesting gripes I would have commented instead of posting anew. I dont care what anybody says, you can still be courteous to others. If I see somebody harvesting, I back off and let them have it since they were there first. Public harvesting? That's like saying it's a public bathroom let me sit on the girl in the stall...ok...maybe not but you would have the curtesy if not the common sense to say I'm not gonna sit on the girl already sitting in the stall. After all she might try to swing at you and since I'm not a guy and wouldnt enjoy a chick fight in a bathroom...ahem...digressing... I'm just saying it's irritating and rude for somebody to come up and Harvest steal...That's right...you can kill steal and now you can harvest steal too.

I do think the reason they are unlocked and have three hits per node is that they wanted us to share. But “to share” meaning, I take one hit and leave the rest to another. And I mean really, there is enough for all. The time spent harvesting is significant to get what you need whether you take from someone else or not so IMO, better off being kind. You never know when you need a friend....

As a newbie, I had no idea any of this was rude until I understood more about leveling and the 3 tier system. Did I really need all those pelts as I tried in vain to get to 40? No, but boy was I pissy when someone hit that trap while I was there… spending nearly 3 hours in Peat Bog to try to get to 40. But since they fixed that, maybe life will be friendlier.

One quick story. I found a nice, quiet harvesting spot in Antonica one evening. I was pretty much by myself. All of a sudden, in my chat window, this gal is threatening to cut my throat. I didn’t even SEE her. I said “Do you have a problem?” She said, “Yea you took my log.” I had already drawn twice from the node, so where was she?? I told her if she spent less time cussing me out and more time looking for what she needed it wouldn’t have been an issue. I swear… the gall of some people’s children.