So I want to be a tankable, soloable cleric. Don't know what third class, but either one wears heavy armor.
My natural pick seems like a dwarf. High str (for soloing), high sta, and high wis, of course. But quite low agi. I remember my dwarven cleric from EQ1, and I remember that the low agi knocked my AC pretty hard, while the high sta didn't help much at all. It seems that a high AC would be better for a cleric than high health, overall.
What are the offensive benefits of agi? Does it raise the chance to hit? It appears that if I want a higher agi, I'll have to go with a race with low str. Can agi make up for str offensively? Does it depend on the weapon? An assassin is a big damage-dealer, but str is unimportant for him/her; it's all agi. Can I get away with the same for a cleric who wants to fight?
Or is agi relatively unimportant if I'm wearing heavy armor?
It's unfortunate that we can't multi-class in this game. Usually, in a party-based game, one wants to focus his character in one direction entirely, increasing strengths even if it means increasing weaknesses. Other members are supposed to fill in those gaps. But I want to strive for a fighter-cleric type of character. Any suggestions? Would a barb's 18 in wis be a huge pain in higher levels? What about the wood elf's low str/sta? Is the human's 20 in wis high enough?
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Human's 20 Wisdom is just fine. In fact Humans were built to be good with EVERY class. that's just what Humans are, jack of all trades. However you do not gain a special racial sight ability like all of the other races.
EQ2 is built so any race can be any class, BUT, each race has a class that works perfectly for their strengths. What do I mean?
Well, a High Elf makes a PERFECT Mage or Priest because they have 25 Wisdom (good for the Priest), and 25 Intelligence (good for the Mage).
Now if you want to have a tankable Cleric... let's see.
Just by selecting the Priest archetype your stats will be boosted by +2 Str, +3 Sta, +5 Wis. Cleric class would give an additional +2 Str, +3 Sta, +5 Wis. Now considering you want to be tankable, you would want to make sure you were in Qeynos (you'd be a good guy), because then you could select the Templar subclass, which wears Heavy & Plate armor (good for taking hits, no?), so that's some bonuses of +2 Str, +3 Intel, +5 Wisdom. Or you could start in Freeport and take the Inquisitor subclass, which can wear Heavy & Plate armor and get a bonus of +2 Str, +3 Sta, +5 Wisdom.
So let's take these bonuses and see what each race would have as BASE stats at level 20 (these numbers would not include any traits and such that you pick along the way to level 20).
To me, it appears that a Half Elf makes for one of the most balanced Templar-classed characters.
Now here are some other points.
* Priests are dependent on the Wisdom attribute for their power supply, so you definitely want a character that has a high wisdom so they can keep their power up.
* AGI makes your character harder to hit, and allows you to hit more often.
* Stamina helps your defense and adds to your health pool.
* Strength and Intel help keep your physical and magical damage high.
So, please take these little charts here and try to see what races stats fit your style of play for your tank-cleric. Keep in mind that you probably want to pick a race that you can have fun with, which is really important should you enjoy role-playing and go onto one of the two RP preferred servers.
Hope this helps!
EQ2 is built so any race can be any class, BUT, each race has a class that works perfectly for their strengths. What do I mean?
Well, a High Elf makes a PERFECT Mage or Priest because they have 25 Wisdom (good for the Priest), and 25 Intelligence (good for the Mage).
Now if you want to have a tankable Cleric... let's see.
Just by selecting the Priest archetype your stats will be boosted by +2 Str, +3 Sta, +5 Wis. Cleric class would give an additional +2 Str, +3 Sta, +5 Wis. Now considering you want to be tankable, you would want to make sure you were in Qeynos (you'd be a good guy), because then you could select the Templar subclass, which wears Heavy & Plate armor (good for taking hits, no?), so that's some bonuses of +2 Str, +3 Intel, +5 Wisdom. Or you could start in Freeport and take the Inquisitor subclass, which can wear Heavy & Plate armor and get a bonus of +2 Str, +3 Sta, +5 Wisdom.
So let's take these bonuses and see what each race would have as BASE stats at level 20 (these numbers would not include any traits and such that you pick along the way to level 20).
----------------------------------------------------------- Templar Chart +6 STR, +6 STA, +15 WIS, +3 INT ----------------------------------------------------------- Race Name STR AGI STA INT WIS Barbarian 31 20 31 15 33 Dark Elf 19 23 21 29 38 Dwarf 28 16 31 15 40 Erudite 18 18 21 33 40 Gnome 18 25 22 30 35 Half Elf 23 25 24 24 34 Halfling 21 30 23 19 37 High Elf 16 22 21 26 45 Human 26 20 26 23 35 Iksar 24 22 24 23 37 Kerra 28 23 26 18 35 Ogre 36 15 31 18 30 Ratonga 16 30 21 28 35 Troll 31 18 36 13 32 Wood Elf 21 30 22 20 38 -----------------------------------------------------------
To me, it appears that a Half Elf makes for one of the most balanced Templar-classed characters.
----------------------------------------------------------- Inquisitor Chart +6 STR +9 STA +15 WIS ----------------------------------------------------------- Race Name STR AGI STA INT WIS Barbarian 31 20 34 12 33 Dark Elf 19 23 24 26 38 Dwarf 28 16 34 12 40 Erudite 18 18 24 30 40 Gnome 18 25 25 27 35 Half Elf 23 25 27 21 34 Halfling 24 30 26 16 37 High Elf 16 22 24 23 45 Human 26 20 29 20 35 Iksar 24 22 27 20 37 Kerra 28 23 29 15 35 Ogre 36 15 34 15 30 Ratonga 16 30 24 25 35 Troll 31 18 39 10 32 Wood Elf 21 30 25 17 38 -----------------------------------------------------------
Now here are some other points.
* Priests are dependent on the Wisdom attribute for their power supply, so you definitely want a character that has a high wisdom so they can keep their power up.
* AGI makes your character harder to hit, and allows you to hit more often.
* Stamina helps your defense and adds to your health pool.
* Strength and Intel help keep your physical and magical damage high.
So, please take these little charts here and try to see what races stats fit your style of play for your tank-cleric. Keep in mind that you probably want to pick a race that you can have fun with, which is really important should you enjoy role-playing and go onto one of the two RP preferred servers.
Hope this helps!
Seriously, you are the coolest person that ever lived.
Thanks a trillion. :D
Do you know where I can find the stat bonuses for each class?
Edited, Wed Dec 1 01:49:34 2004 by Xodarap
Thanks a trillion. :D
Do you know where I can find the stat bonuses for each class?
Edited, Wed Dec 1 01:49:34 2004 by Xodarap
Certainly. :)
From the EQ2 official manual:
FIGHTER ARCHETYPE - +5 Str, +2 Agi, +3 Sta
Warrior: +5 Str, +3 Agi, +2 Sta
-- Berserkser: +5 Str, +3 Agi, +2 Sta
-- Guardian: +5 Str, +2 Agi, +3 Sta
Brawler: +3 Str, +5 Agi, +2 Sta
-- Bruiser: +5 Str, +2 Agi, +3 Sta (Freeport Only)
-- Monk: +2 Str, +5 Agi, +3 Sta (Qeynos Only)
Crusader: +5 Str, +3 Sta, +2 Wis
-- Paladin: +5 Str, +3 Agi, +2 Wis (Qeynos Only)
-- Shadowknight: +5 Str, +3 Agi, +2 Wis (Freeport Only)
MAGE ARCHETYPE - +3 Agi, +2 Sta, +5 Int
Sorceror: +3 Agi, +2 Sta, +5 Int
-- Wizard: +3 Agi, +2 Sta, +5 Int
-- Warlock: +3 Agi, +2 Sta, +5 Int
Enchanter: +3 Agi, +2 Sta, +5 Int
-- Illusionist: +3 Agi, +2 Sta, +5 Int (Qeynos only)
-- Coercer: +3 Agi, +2 Sta, +5 Int (Freeport only)
Summoner: +3 Agi, +2 Sta, +5 Int
-- Conjurer: +3 Agi, +2 Sta, +5 Int (Qeynos only)
-- Necromancer: +3 Agi, +2 Sta, +5 Int (Freeport only)
PRIEST ARCHETYPE - +2 Str, +3 Sta, +5 Wis
Cleric: +2 Str, +3 Sta, +5 Wis
-- Templar: +2 Str, +3 Int, +5 Wis (Qeynos only)
-- Inquisitor: +2 Str, +3 Sta, +5 Wis (Freeport only)
Druid: +2 Str, +3 Sta, +5 Wis
-- Warden: +2 Str, +3 Sta, +5 Wis
-- Fury: +2 Str, +3 Sta, +5 Wis
Shaman: +2 Str, +3 Sta, +5 Wis
-- Mystic: +2 Str, +3 Sta, +5 Wis (Qeynos only)
-- Defiler: +2 Str, +3 Sta, +5 Wis (Freeport only)
SCOUT ARCHETYPE - +3 Str, +5 Agi, +2 Sta
Rogue: +5 Str, +3 Agi, +2 Sta
-- Swashbuckler: +3 Str, +5 Agi, +2 Sta (Qeynos only)
-- Brigand: +3 Str, +5 Agi, +2 Sta (Freeport only)
Bard: +5 Agi, +3 Sta, +2 Int
-- Troubadour: +3 Str, +5 Agi, +2 Int
-- Dirge: +3 Str, +5 Agi, +2 Int
Predator: +3 Str, +5 Agi, +2 Sta
-- Ranger: +3 Str, +5 Agi, +2 Sta
-- Assassin: +3 Str, +5 Agi, +2 Sta
There you go, hope that helps!
From the EQ2 official manual:
FIGHTER ARCHETYPE - +5 Str, +2 Agi, +3 Sta
Warrior: +5 Str, +3 Agi, +2 Sta
-- Berserkser: +5 Str, +3 Agi, +2 Sta
-- Guardian: +5 Str, +2 Agi, +3 Sta
Brawler: +3 Str, +5 Agi, +2 Sta
-- Bruiser: +5 Str, +2 Agi, +3 Sta (Freeport Only)
-- Monk: +2 Str, +5 Agi, +3 Sta (Qeynos Only)
Crusader: +5 Str, +3 Sta, +2 Wis
-- Paladin: +5 Str, +3 Agi, +2 Wis (Qeynos Only)
-- Shadowknight: +5 Str, +3 Agi, +2 Wis (Freeport Only)
MAGE ARCHETYPE - +3 Agi, +2 Sta, +5 Int
Sorceror: +3 Agi, +2 Sta, +5 Int
-- Wizard: +3 Agi, +2 Sta, +5 Int
-- Warlock: +3 Agi, +2 Sta, +5 Int
Enchanter: +3 Agi, +2 Sta, +5 Int
-- Illusionist: +3 Agi, +2 Sta, +5 Int (Qeynos only)
-- Coercer: +3 Agi, +2 Sta, +5 Int (Freeport only)
Summoner: +3 Agi, +2 Sta, +5 Int
-- Conjurer: +3 Agi, +2 Sta, +5 Int (Qeynos only)
-- Necromancer: +3 Agi, +2 Sta, +5 Int (Freeport only)
PRIEST ARCHETYPE - +2 Str, +3 Sta, +5 Wis
Cleric: +2 Str, +3 Sta, +5 Wis
-- Templar: +2 Str, +3 Int, +5 Wis (Qeynos only)
-- Inquisitor: +2 Str, +3 Sta, +5 Wis (Freeport only)
Druid: +2 Str, +3 Sta, +5 Wis
-- Warden: +2 Str, +3 Sta, +5 Wis
-- Fury: +2 Str, +3 Sta, +5 Wis
Shaman: +2 Str, +3 Sta, +5 Wis
-- Mystic: +2 Str, +3 Sta, +5 Wis (Qeynos only)
-- Defiler: +2 Str, +3 Sta, +5 Wis (Freeport only)
SCOUT ARCHETYPE - +3 Str, +5 Agi, +2 Sta
Rogue: +5 Str, +3 Agi, +2 Sta
-- Swashbuckler: +3 Str, +5 Agi, +2 Sta (Qeynos only)
-- Brigand: +3 Str, +5 Agi, +2 Sta (Freeport only)
Bard: +5 Agi, +3 Sta, +2 Int
-- Troubadour: +3 Str, +5 Agi, +2 Int
-- Dirge: +3 Str, +5 Agi, +2 Int
Predator: +3 Str, +5 Agi, +2 Sta
-- Ranger: +3 Str, +5 Agi, +2 Sta
-- Assassin: +3 Str, +5 Agi, +2 Sta
There you go, hope that helps!
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